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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .

The NFL’s ongoing quest for global domination has a pair of third rails for American fans. One, teams based in Europe or elsewhere. Two, a Super Bowl on foreign soil.

One of the NFL’s most influential owners is on board with the latter.

“First of all, I’m for anything that promotes the growth or expands the eyeballs for the NFL,” Jones said Friday on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas. “And that has been really the goal and the practice of the NFL, certainly ever since I’ve been involved. There’s no question that having it out internationally, shouldn’t take away from our fan interests and eyeballs in the United States and should add significantly around the world, outside of the country. So, in general, I’m for that.

“I was pretty strong for years and years that it’s just never gonna be the same, my town against your town, relative to our football. It just can’t be transferred to Europe and other countries and so. . . . But I’ve changed that, and I’ve seen how you can take the ethos of our game and the theory behind the game and it calls on you to do unnatural things relative to physically and it calls you to play in a certain way that other sports don’t require. I think that carries over to the concept of the game, and I think that’s catching on and is very popular outside the United States. So I’m all for it.”

Most American fans won’t be. The idea of sending America’s ultimate sporting event outside of America seems odd. It’s unusual.

But here’s the thing: We can huff and we can puff, but we aren’t going to not watch the Super Bowl. International games look the same on TV as domestic games. And, yes, there have been instances where the footing is less than ideal. But Super Bowl LVII was played in Phoenix, and the field was a nightmarish slip-n-slide that day.

Then there’s the issue of kickoff time. Would they start the game earlier than 6:30 p.m. ET? Or would it kick off at 11:30 p.m. London time, ending after 3:00 a.m.?

They’ll work it out, if it comes to that. Because they see the world beyond our borders as the path to turning a billion-dollar business into a trillion-dollar behemoth.

Always follow the money. Especially when dealing with an organization that always chases the money.

Especially when it knows that any unhappy customers won’t stop being customers.

That's it. His senility was funny, but he's pushing it too far. Off to the gas chambers with him. Immediately.
 
HackerX said:
1) What do defenses "figure out" when it comes to QBs? It's a given there are obvious tendencies, like how Stroud (allegedly) looks down the field, how he maneuvers inside the pocket, what kinds of routes he favors, where he likes to place the ball, etc., but there's definitely something more to it. Assuming what the guy you replied to said about Stroud being a one read guy is true (hell if I know. I don't watch the Texans), that's not completely abnormal to an extent.
Most pass plays are designed with one target in mind, with a backup option and/or a checkdown, so wouldn't it be a matter of just simplyfing the game down?
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Expanding on what @Froggy Fresh Sextape said, there are a lot of habits that QB's have picked up while playing up through college. They are normally the best players in college, high school, middle school etc, so these habits would never really get picked up on until the NFL. The first year doesn't give you full film or the ability to break things down but once you get a full year's worth of tape, you can find these pressures, defensive schemes, and other minor things that the QB struggled with and design game plans around it. Then, if some other defensive coach picked up on those sametactics and showed that the QB struggled with it, they can plan even more around those specific strategies. With Stroud, whatever they picked up on him last season wouldn't have been able to be put on tape because his Oline didn't help show what his issues were and how to adjust. If he has an issue moving to his second and third reads, how are you going to be able to recognize that, study film, and improve when the Oline is letting him get sacked or run out of the pocket when he realizes his first read is covered?
HackerX said:
2) What does Stroud need to "understand more"? Is he just missing reads, late throws, making poor decisions, etc? Personally, I'd kinda do what I mentioned above. Keep the plays limited to 1-2 true targets, have a checkdown option, and build from there. It sure as hell helps if you have a running game though, and the Texans are 24th in rushing which ain't great.
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Covering 3 targets while applying pressure is not hard to do in the NFL. Lamar had an offense built around reading one or two players but he is also a running back who can throw the ball. Stroud can't do that
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What's Stroud's pocket presence even like? Sure, a great offensive line helps, but IMO the difference between a solid QB and a great QB is being able to navigate a pocket that is slowly collapsing or being moved. Like where a dude steps up or to the side to buy an extra second or two. It's great if the QBs athletic enough to threaten the scramble, but that's the difference between a 5 yard run and a backbreaking 25 yard reception. The kinda shit that accomplishes big yardage, gasses the defense, and drives momentum. (Albeit sometimes you get the 80 yard Daniel Jones runs, but that's not the norm for players not named Lamar Jackson.)
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Burrow is an amazing QB and he still can't read the pocket. Its hard to read the pocket when it doesn't exist 2 seconds after a snap
 
London Super Bowl is a godawful idea, as are northern outdoor stadiums with a snow risk. It's the championship game, prioritize seeing the two teams at their best and most well prepared. Jerry World is honestly a fantastic venue for it, just go back there if we need to keep Jones happy.
 

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HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
I missed the easy layup on one: Justin Field Nigger.

@Trombonista I know you like Josh Allen, have you heard any negative nicknames for him?
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First one that came to mind was Jizz Allen, but then I had the bright idea to see what our AI overlord could come up with.
* **Josh “All-End” Drive
* **Josh Malfunction**
* **Josh N’ Loss**
* **Josh Stall-in’** (because the offense stalls)
* **All-L**en (collecting L’s)
* **Allen-terception**
* **Josh Off-Target**
* **All-Ends in Three** (hello, punts)
* **Gosh-D*** Josh**
* **Allen Wrench in the Gears**
* **Josh “Just Tossed It” Allen**
* **All-Or-Nothin’ Allen (mostly nothin’)**
* **The Allen-batross** (hangs on your offense)
* **Joshin’ Away the Lead**
* **All-In… Trouble**
* **Fourth-Quarter Vanish-Allen**
* **Sack-Allen Sandwich**
* **Sir Trips-A-Lot (Josh edition)**
* **Throw-It-Somewhere-Josh**
* **Allen by Accident**
* **Josh “Force-It” Allen**
* **All-End Zone? Nah**
* **Josh Airmail-en**
* **Checkdown Charl-Allen**
* **Fumble-in-Allen**
* **Josh “What Was That?” Allen**
* **No-Read Need-Allen**
* **Allen-noyance to Bills Fans**
* **Josh “Hero Ball & Hope” Allen**
* **All-Hype Allen**
* **Josh Off-Script, Off-Cliff**
* **Allen Key to the L**
* **Gosh-Awful Josh**
* **Josh “Pick-a-Spot (Wrong One)”**
* **All-Ends in Tears**
* **Josh Miss-Allen-eous** (random chaos)
* **Allen-ergic to Ball Security**
* **Josh “Huck & Pray”**
* **All-End (Of Story) Punt**
Some of 'em are god awful or nonsensical, but others are golden. My favorites in bold.

LOL, The Sanchize got arrested.
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HackerX said:
First one that came to mind was Jizz Allen, but then I had the bright idea to see what our AI overlord could come up with.
* **Josh “All-End” Drive
* **Josh Malfunction**
* **Josh N’ Loss**
* **Josh Stall-in’** (because the offense stalls)
* **All-L**en (collecting L’s)
* **Allen-terception**
* **Josh Off-Target**
* **All-Ends in Three** (hello, punts)
* **Gosh-D*** Josh**
* **Allen Wrench in the Gears**
* **Josh “Just Tossed It” Allen**
* **All-Or-Nothin’ Allen (mostly nothin’)**
* **The Allen-batross** (hangs on your offense)
* **Joshin’ Away the Lead**
* **All-In… Trouble**
* **Fourth-Quarter Vanish-Allen**
* **Sack-Allen Sandwich**
* **Sir Trips-A-Lot (Josh edition)**
* **Throw-It-Somewhere-Josh**
* **Allen by Accident**
* **Josh “Force-It” Allen**
* **All-End Zone? Nah**
* **Josh Airmail-en**
* **Checkdown Charl-Allen**
* **Fumble-in-Allen**
* **Josh “What Was That?” Allen**
* **No-Read Need-Allen**
* **Allen-noyance to Bills Fans**
* **Josh “Hero Ball & Hope” Allen**
* **All-Hype Allen**
* **Josh Off-Script, Off-Cliff**
* **Allen Key to the L**
* **Gosh-Awful Josh**
* **Josh “Pick-a-Spot (Wrong One)”**
* **All-Ends in Tears**
* **Josh Miss-Allen-eous** (random chaos)
* **Allen-ergic to Ball Security**
* **Josh “Huck & Pray”**
* **All-End (Of Story) Punt**
Some of 'em are god awful or nonsensical, but others are golden. My favorites in bold.

LOL, The Sanchize got arrested.
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I genuinely don't understand how you can be that rich and not have someone sober with you so you don't get into a fight or try to drive drunk. The charges also make me wonder if the person he got in a confrontation with tried to leave and he ripped a door open so he could beat their ass in the car.

They're not sending their best!
 
break these cuffs said:
I genuinely don't understand how you can be that rich and not have someone sober with you so you don't get into a fight or try to drive drunk.
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Here's a list of reasons. They're not good reasons, but reasons nonetheless.

1) Not white.

2) He's got 2 middle names.

3) Played for the Jets.

4) Something about Rex Ryan, Rex Ryan's wife, and feet.

5) Born and raised in California.

6) Child of divorce (Apparently his Dad got custody, so take that as you will).

7) The Buttfumble.

8) According to Wikipedia, he's an avid fan of music theater (aka he's a homosexual).

9) Also according to Wikipedia, he was a presenter at the 2010 Tony Awards (aka he's a MASSIVE homosexual).

10) He's gay.

And that's the Top 10 reasons why Mark Sanchez is a fucking retard! Make sure to like, share, and subscribe to support us and get more hard hitting content!
 
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DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
The problem with the shitty Oline is that he can't develop. Having a great rookie year is a good sign. But teams figure you out in the second season so you need to develop into a better QB that can read defenses and understand the game more. Its hard to read the game when you have less time in the pocket
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QBs aren't really allowed to develop anyways, if even rookies behind upper half offensive lines have the playbook designed to maximize their skills out of college right away to try and get a growing team to a Super Bowl while they're still on a rookie contract. Stroud himself didn't grow in year 2, but for the first half of 2024 the playbook was switched up to maximize his strengths (lot of dig routes along the 1st down marker, with an outside post to act as his safety blanket), way more than he had in 2023, and the opposing LBs league-wide knew to fade into coverage to swat it down. Sure, DCs knowing that they could rush 4 most of the time against him b/c the Texans offensive line was hot garbage didn't help, but Slowik didn't challenge Stroud at all. I'm sure the fact that the Texans defense rocketed from bottom of the league the year before to middle of the pack after 1 year under Ryans and Stroud's rookie of the year performance got ownership in Win Now mode.

It's the new hallmark of poorly run teams. Shitty owners and their GMs want to sprint for the ring while the QB is on the rookie contract b/c they can allocate more of the cap to better talent everywhere else, a strategy that has worked only 4 times since the rookie wage scale was introduced (Seahawks once, Chiefs once, Eagles 2x - I'm counting 2017, they don't make the playoffs without Carson Wentz). Even if you count an appearance as a success with a QB on a rookie deal, of the 14 Super Bowls since the rookie wage scale was introduced, 11/28have featured a QB on their rookie contract. It's not even a good way to try and GET to the Super Bowl. And in its wake you have all these teams stuck with an albatross of a contract from QBs who didn't develop their toolset properly while the team tried to maximize the championship window. Daniel Jones. Kyler Murray. Carson Wentz. The Texans' extension of Deshaun Watson, had he not bailed them out by holding out over money. Tua Turndaballova. Trevor Lawrence.

And if they aren't in 2nd contract hell, the even shittier run teams are stuck in the loop of Y1: New QB -> Y2: Old Coach sucks -> Y3: New Coach -> Y4: New QB. The Bears & the Jets being the best examples. Meanwhile, we're seeing castoffs from these organizations that needed to win now, now, NOW b/c QBs are expensive hit their late 20's as backups/on their 3rd+ team, get a starter opportunity again, and ball out. Geno. Darnold. Baker. But there's no patience to tolerate letting QBs work out the league with the team who drafted them.
 
Hunter Hearst Helmsley said:
The Eagles winning twice that way does give other teams unrealistic expectations. Other teams can't be us without the Howie Roseman voodoo magic from the deal with the devil he made, in which the devil sold Roseman his soul in exchange for an 8th round draft pick.
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The second one also has a lot to do with the change in coaching staff from Doug to Nick. Doug did a god awful job at developing players. We have a hugely upgraded staff except for Stout as a hold over. We're not going to talk about coordinators.
 
Details surrounding Sanchez are coming to light. The local fox affiliate is reporting that the victim was the 69 year old male driver of a grease disposal truck for local restaurants. He was parked blocking an alley. Sanchez had some issue with this and was acting erratically before the attack. The victim pepper sprayed him before stabbing him in the chest.

Relevant Onion headline from 13 years ago.
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break these cuffs said:
Details surrounding Sanchez are coming to light. The local fox affiliate is reporting that the victim was the 69 year old male driver of a grease disposal truck for local restaurants. He was parked blocking an alley. Sanchez had some issue with this and was acting erratically before the attack. The victim pepper sprayed him before stabbing him in the chest.

Relevant Onion headline from 13 years ago.
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So I guess the real question is, was the Sanchize loaded on pills or booze? Attacking a 70 year old who is driving around in a grease truck at 12:30 AM on a Saturday is something else. The old man manually deported that faggy Californian the old fashioned way. God bless him!
 
break these cuffs said:
Details surrounding Sanchez are coming to light. The local fox affiliate is reporting that the victim was the 69 year old male driver of a grease disposal truck for local restaurants. He was parked blocking an alley. Sanchez had some issue with this and was acting erratically before the attack. The victim pepper sprayed him before stabbing him in the chest.

Relevant Onion headline from 13 years ago.
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Getting into a fight and nearly being killed because you're upset over a truck blocking an alley is fucking retarded.
 
Bhad Babie has already started racebaiting:

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