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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Fat Gay Riker said:
@StarkRavingMad is having the best football night of her life right now.
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Few days late in responding, but yes, you are correct. lol.

Thursday night was the most I've enjoyed watching the Giants since 2012. Easily.

Dart and Skattebo have started White Boy Autumn, and I'm so here for it. Someone I know referred to them as "Beavis and Head-Butt" and I'm just bursting with Giants pride right now. lol.

EDIT: Adding this ... Just because
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Well, it looks like Patrick Mahomes has finally done it, he beat Goff.

I have no idea why Campbell didnt run the ball to pick up the 4th down before the 2 minute warning, you dont even need to waste a down clocking the ball. Usually I can appreciate the aggression but I suppose this is the other side of the coin.

At least I got to see the Lions run a play out of the T. The ran what my high school coach would have called a 240, right before they tried that trick play that got Refballed. They didnt score on it, and He (my HS coach) is a packers fan but I'd like to think he respects the Lions just a little bit more now.
 
Lions have had unforced error issues since week 1. You wouldn't think it given the record but let me give the context

We're 4-0 in games with opponents below .500 either before or even after the game we played them.


We're 0-2 against teams that either have above or at .500 record. And with offenses that score and average of 20.5 PPG.

The offense since Morton took over has statistically been sound. However they lack the cerebral ability to execute like they did with Johnson. All of our trick plays failed tonight simple as that.

Goff set the tone early for not getting under center quickly enough to motion out. Then right after the play was overturned (whether you like it or not the play was illegal, even as a lions fan I can't really argue with the call but I am miffed about the execution).

He or Morton couldn't get the next play called in time and the offense went from scoring a terribly done Philly special to scraping by with a kick.

The other issue I have seen is that the O-line especially the new guards have done a terrible job on the the run game blocking.. Jahmyr Gibbs couldn't get anything going tonight. Goff made some okay throws but missed some gimmies. St Brown had a bad drop (to be fair the ball wasn't thrown well either).

The thing is these issues have popped up against the teams we've beat the issue at hand however is that none of them were good enough to capitalize on said mistakes.
The Packers and chiefs however are not bad.... They both we're able to exploit our issues.


I'm not sold on Morton. I'm especially not sold on the Ben Johnsonless Goff.. those are my thoughts.
 
W00K #17 said:
I remember in 2018 that "would you rather have Mahomes or Goff?" was a common debate topic on sports radio/tv shows. Whatever happened to that common argument?
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The Bears, then Patriots, demonstrated before the 2018 season that McVay had been reading the opposing defense for Goff instead of spending his time coaching him on how to do it himself. When defenses began disguising their look until the point pre-snap where McVay's line to Goff's headset got cut, he looked much more like a 3rd year developing QB than he had in the 2017 season.

By the time Goff went somewhere where his HC wasn't seething that he had his football robot taken away from him/his star running back's knees withered to dust, Mahomes had already put up such a record of success that comparing the two was a bit pointless. The Mahomes/Goff W-L record had become a statistical oddity more than taken as any real measure of their respective qualities.
 
The issue with the Lions offense is mostly Frank Ragnow left a gaping hole when he retired in the off-season. I am iffy on the new OC, but my main complaint is how run heavy he is. I do think some simplification over the more complex shit that Ben Johnson was doing. We have good running backs, but we’ve yet to throw any deep balls.

Against the Bengals, that o-line weakness was exploited. Goff really should not have gotten sacked that year. Skipper has been cut and re-signed so many fucking times when he is a reliable tackle. I do not know why we don’t just fucking sign him as a back up.

Defensively it’s staying healthy.

Absolutego said:
The Bears, then Patriots, demonstrated before the 2018 season that McVay had been reading the opposing defense for Goff instead of spending his time coaching him on how to do it himself. When defenses began disguising their look until the point pre-snap where McVay's line to Goff's headset got cut, he looked much more like a 3rd year developing QB than he had in the 2017 season.

By the time Goff went somewhere where his HC wasn't seething that he had his football robot taken away from him/his star running back's knees withered to dust, Mahomes had already put up such a record of success that comparing the two was a bit pointless. The Mahomes/Goff W-L record had become a statistical oddity more than taken as any real measure of their respective qualities.
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Goff has grown as a QB. McVay feels like he’s either going to trade for a new veteran quarterback or take another job when Stafford retires.


Edit: that was a fucking touchdown there was no replay assist. They supposedly told Campbell this, but the refs themselves did not use anything. Watch the play again, his hands are not under center.

Even then they couldn’t call it back. It was an unreviewable play and it was a pre-snap penalty they never threw a flag for. There’s like ten retardes things going on. The delay of game penalty was more because quite literally the refs were not able to do that.
 
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HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Goff has grown as a QB. McVay feels like he’s either going to trade for a new veteran quarterback or take another job when Stafford retires.
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Yeah, but he had to go to the Lions and get away from McVay to grow, that's my point. Once his strategy of basically playing QB through a proxy didn't work, McVay soured on Goff and had no idea how to use him. He didn't even look bad, exactly, in the 2018 season, he just looked like a 3rd year guy who hadn't really had his fundamentals developed, which he essentially was.
And yes, I fully expect McVay to either retire or trade for, idk, Dak or something once Stafford hangs up his cleats. The fact that Wolford finally got cut means he's kind of, maybe, finally been disabused of the notion that he's good at developing QBs.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Edit: that was a fucking touchdown there was no replay assist. They supposedly told Campbell this, but the refs themselves did not use anything. Watch the play again, his hands are not under center
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It was not a touch down. Remember Goff must get SET and THEN can motion out. IF the formation came out like the way it was right before the snap (NO MOTION AT ALL , just straight up a wild cat play with Goff preset as a receiver) the play is legal, TD... Doesn't matter if he did it under center or in the backfield he just had to not move for a moment to be motioned out. It doesn't matter whether or not his hands were under center he MUST come to a stop for a full second.

Says it in the rule book, Rule 7 covers everything when it comes to T-formation QB shifts.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
. It was an unreviewable play
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This really shouldn't be a thing in the year of our lord 2025, there really is no excuse.

"We can't review that."
"Fucking why?"
"Because reasons."

No, FUCK YOU, everything is on camera, everything is recorded. If it can affect the outcome of the game, IT SHOULD BE REVIEWABLE, AND OVERTURNABLE, FUCK YOU.

Whenever you get the sequence above, the rules should be changed on fucking MONDAY to fix it.
 
BikeLock said:
This really shouldn't be a thing in the year of our lord 2025, there really is no excuse.

"We can't review that."
"Fucking why?"
"Because reasons."

No, FUCK YOU, everything is on camera, everything is recorded. If it can affect the outcome of the game, IT SHOULD BE REVIEWABLE, AND OVERTURNABLE, FUCK YOU.

Whenever you get the sequence above, the rules should be changed on fucking MONDAY to fix it.
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Quite literally, the Lions have been the main team where this shit happened. That one Texans touchdowns when Jim Schwartz was our head coach and they re-did the challenge rules because yeah it’s a stupid rule where challenging something burns a time out and makes the play non-reviewable. The rules quite literally do not matter to fuck us and then will change to ensure no one else gets fucked.

Also, supposedly this was happening all game and never got called and is why Branch was pissed.

 
BikeLock said:
This really shouldn't be a thing in the year of our lord 2025, there really is no excuse.
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I agree with this in they should just let everything be reviewed and let coaches challenge everything.

The issue is when you are on Subday Night Football and they cant review something, but could have had a conference about it, but that conference comes minutes later its clear they didnt catch it real time. This makes the league look very bad. Especially when its in facor of the Chiefs who seem to benefit from this every game.
 
I didnt even notice the ref ball when it happened, Honestly I was mostly focused on texting all my high school football teammates that the lions just ran a 240 from the T. Im numb to it at this point. I just assume the NFL has a special "Fuck the Lions" rule book they pull out for special occasions. And regardless our team is good enough we should be able to overcome refball.
 
FootballBuff said:
I didnt even notice the ref ball when it happened, Honestly I was mostly focused on texting all my high school football teammates that the lions just ran a 240 from the T. Im numb to it at this point. I just assume the NFL has a special "Fuck the Lions" rule book they pull out for special occasions. And regardless our team is good enough we should be able to overcome refball.
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I hate the Lions, but the league is trying to keep Dan Campbell down because he's the ubermensch. They fear him. The ultimate hwite man. The pinnacle of hwite power.
 
So, after seeing Justin Fields performance in London, the Jets have a chance to do the funniest thing and see what the Giants would want for Russ.

Look the Jets are on 0-17 Watch, if they’re going to Tank they might as well do it right, and the seethe produced from having Russ take Fields starting job two years in a row would be great.
 
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