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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%
  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
LA never really bothered me. They're a good, respectable team and always have been, just second fiddle (historically) to SF in the NFC West. Seattle can fuck back off the the AFC where they belong.
I don't hate the Rams players or fans, I hate their owner Kroenke
 
I don't hate the Rams players or fans, I hate their owner Kroenke
Kroenke has a pass on exactly one thing - he didn’t grift LA and instead paid for SoFi himself. Sure, he got Tax Breaks, but considering the Great Stadium Grift, him spending $5.5B and he didn’t try to fuck the taxpayer into covering the majority of it buys him some good will.
 
I don't hate the Rams players or fans, I hate their owner Kroenke
TBH most NFL owners are some degree of shitty/incompetent, my beef with the Rams has a lot more to do with them instantly becoming media darlings once the west coast half of sports media had a local team again (that wasn't the Chargers), and the fact that people keep pretending McVay is some QB guru when all the QBs he tries to coach up himself are busts or have to leave town to actually be good, and he only got a ring when he brought a longtime vet onto an already stacked roster.
 
Kroenke has a pass on exactly one thing - he didn’t grift LA and instead paid for SoFi himself. Sure, he got Tax Breaks, but considering the Great Stadium Grift, him spending $5.5B and he didn’t try to fuck the taxpayer into covering the majority of it buys him some good will.

TBH most NFL owners are some degree of shitty/incompetent, my beef with the Rams has a lot more to do with them instantly becoming media darlings once the west coast half of sports media had a local team again (that wasn't the Chargers), and the fact that people keep pretending McVay is some QB guru when all the QBs he tries to coach up himself are busts or have to leave town to actually be good, and he only got a ring when he brought a longtime vet onto an already stacked roster.

All valid points but I remember this too (2:47 onward)
The way he fucked over St. Louis and his actions in Texas that led to people losing their homes and eventually caused a suicide are also a very good reason to not like him
 
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Sorry if that article might not fit that thread but it's worth to mention about these rumors of the Chicago Bears leaving Chicago city limits and the Chiefs leaving Kansas City, Missouri for Kansas City, Kansas.

December 29, 2025

We Can Call The NFL The ‘No Fidelity League​

By Will O'Toole

NFL off-the-field news recently reported that the Kansas City (Missouri) Chiefs have announced a billion-dollar indoor stadium deal set to open in the next decade. It means that the NFL franchise, originally based in Dallas and then, since the 1960s, in Missouri, will be pulling up stakes and migrating westward to their “Land of Oz”; that is, the land from which Dorothy Gale hailed:

Today we are excited to take another momentous step for the future of the franchise, Hunt’s announcement reads. We have entered into an agreement with the State of Kansas to host Chiefs football beginning with the 2031 NFL season.

The reason is simple:
Gov. Laura Kelly and the Kansas City Chiefs today announced that an agreement has been reached to build a domed stadium and a mixed-use entertainment district, as well as a new team headquarters, training facility and mixed-use development in Kansas. The project will be a massive economic win for the state, with the construction phase alone creating over 20,000 jobs and $4.4 billion in economic impact for Kansas. From there, the stadium will bring over $1 billion in annual impact.
 
Sorry if that article might not fit that thread but it's worth to mention about these rumors of the Chicago Bears leaving Chicago city limits and the Chiefs leaving Kansas City, Missouri for Kansas City, Kansas.
Ironically, the Packers remain the last true link to the league’s origins and its romance. They may not be “technically” the oldest or the first (that would be the Cardinals), but Green Bay has been its only postal address for over a century. Of course, that could change if Goodell strikes a deal that the franchise and league can’t refuse.
But it can't change. The club's articles of incorporation hold them to the area. The only legal way to move the team would be to dissolve the corporation, pissing off tens of thousands of shareholders.

It's ironic that an article crying about greedy owners chasing taxpayer dollars would mention the Packers but not also mention they have the only alternative ownership structure in the league. While there is some merit to the "worthless piece of paper" jabs from other fans, when the club wants to improve the stadium and area, they are able to go to the fans with the deepest pockets (or most diehard loyalties) rather than threaten to move the club if the government doesn't give them a sweet deal.
 
Today is Myles Garrett's birthday!
 
Sorry if that article might not fit that thread but it's worth to mention about these rumors of the Chicago Bears leaving Chicago city limits and the Chiefs leaving Kansas City, Missouri for Kansas City, Kansas.
Articles like this one really demonstrate a giant issue with sports fandom: viewing your team as a cultural, nationalistic identity. Sports isn't war, it isn't your tribe against the rival tribal next door to you. Sports isn't your country. It is commercial product where the only thing that matters is the money. It is why the whole Lane Kiffin scandal and other college football controversies have really been making people mad lately: the product has become so commercialized that fans are finally realizing that something as stupid as college football isn't something to invest your entire identity in.

Also, I really wish people would stop bringing up the Giants and Jets playing in New Jersey. We get it: their names are New York but they play in a neighboring state. You can literally see the City of New York from the stadium. The only reason they never built a new stadium in New York was because it was next to impossible to find land in an already overly built New York City to build said stadium in. Look at how much drama the Islanders had in replacing their stadium. It is astounding that both the Yankees and Mets managed to find spots to build their stadiums in.
 
Articles like this one really demonstrate a giant issue with sports fandom: viewing your team as a cultural, nationalistic identity. Sports isn't war,
Eh I kinda think this is fun though, seeing what type of fan cultures pop up through shared moments is kind of fun and gives each team a personality.

Raiders fans adopting a kind of gear nasty attitude fanbase, packers fat drunk shirtless cheese heads, seahawks pride in loud obnoxious screaming, and the cowboys tradition of being homosexual.

This kind of allows you to really enjoy those highs and lows and show what's important to you when your team finally reaches the peak.

The nfl kind of ruins this by commercializing and focusing on individuals and really missing what makes this game important to a lot of people. They really have a hard time understanding joy in misery and want a very sterilized product with a fanbase that will abandon all these fun things and sing the black national anthem and hop up and down at the thought of a player going to Disney world after the super bowl
 
a giant issue with sports fandom: viewing your team as a cultural, nationalistic identity
There’s an upside to being a fan of a Bad Team - I know my team’s season is generally going to be over by Week 8 to Week 10, so I’m just rooting for whoever would be most entertaining to have win.

It’s why I’ve loved this season being on drugs.
Also, I really wish people would stop bringing up the Giants and Jets playing in New Jersey.
Ok, I’m guilty of this, but I’m also half convinced that both teams are cursed and whoever changes their name to New Jersey will be the one to break the curse.

It’s that or Metlife Stadium is cursed. Either or, but the former has more potential than making “it was built on an Indian Burial Ground” jokes
 
Also, I really wish people would stop bringing up the Giants and Jets playing in New Jersey. We get it: their names are New York but they play in a neighboring state.
If American ingenuity were still a thing in New York they'd build the stadium like a massive skybridge across a dozen or so skyscrapers in Manhattan. The land is there, you just need to connect it.
 
While there is some merit to the "worthless piece of paper" jabs from other fans, when the club wants to improve the stadium and area, they are able to go to the fans with the deepest pockets (or most diehard loyalties) rather than threaten to move the club if the government doesn't give them a sweet deal.
I know my piece of paper is basically 'worthless' in a true ownership-sense but it's great as both a conversation piece and an excuse to troll people with being able to say I'm an NFL owner. Cheap compared to some other memorabilia as well.

I'm not from even remotely near Wisconsin. Growing up Favre caught my interest and as I got older I respected the team was community-owned and could never be uprooted.
 
Vikings are lucky to have Flores because he's an amazing DC and also toxic as fuck so nobody will bother poaching him.

Vikings defense was playing their asses off in a meaningless game. We won't talk about Brosmer.
I don't think Brosmer should be on an NFL roster outside of maybe the practice squad. He has to be great in the film room or something else I'm not seeing because mah gawd is he bad lol.
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This is what it looks like when a team runs out of fucks to give. The Steelers are going to lose to Baltimore next week just so they can go 9-8.

EDIT: Oh shit, if the Steelers lose against Baltimore next week, does that mean they miss the playoffs too?
In the Steelers defense they have one of the worst WR corps in the league, and even though Metcalf isn't that good (I'm still pissed at his lack of effort on that hail mary in the Bengals game) it's undeniable his absence may cost them the playoffs. I'd also argue that the defense is way too inconsistent for them to be a legitimate contender anyway.
 
Ok, I’m guilty of this, but I’m also half convinced that both teams are cursed and whoever changes their name to New Jersey will be the one to break the curse.

It’s that or Metlife Stadium is cursed. Either or, but the former has more potential than making “it was built on an Indian Burial Ground” jokes
The Giants have won 4 superbowls since moving to NJ, that is not the curse.
 
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