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The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)
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God what a bad time for this to happen for the Browns. Right when we finally get a break and beat our rivals this has to happen, as if we haven't had enough controversy this year. I wish it would just get out of the news cycle. It feels like 24/7 coverage at this point.
If I gave my honest take it's a shame Garrett did what he did, but pretty much everyone involved should have been suspended for a few games. Rudolph started it, and after his helmet was ripped off actively chose to not de-escalate. His team mates were separating Garrett, and he is a quarterback who should have the good notion to stay out of a fight on the field. Instead he ran at Garrett like a tough guy, and then played victim when he was hit. Should Garrett have done it? No. Should he be punished? Yes. So should Rudolph. The linemen should lose a game for kicking Garrett after he was knocked down, and the other Browns player (I forget his name off the top of my head) who pushed Rudolph down after the fact should lose a game. Its an embarrassment for the team, and for the city.
All the people claiming criminal charges should be pressed are ridiculous, and hoping to drum up more drama and controversy. It wasn't a criminal blow: it was a hit from the front on a target that was making the active decision to fight back with two additional adversaries holding him back. It might've been dirty, but it wasn't as evil as people are making it out to be. Garrett shouldn't get jail time for this, and being the loser on the sidelines who embarrassed his team with no pay for the rest of the season is punishment enough.
The next game at Pittsburgh will be interesting. I kind of hope they win again just to see what would happen.
If I gave my honest take it's a shame Garrett did what he did, but pretty much everyone involved should have been suspended for a few games. Rudolph started it, and after his helmet was ripped off actively chose to not de-escalate. His team mates were separating Garrett, and he is a quarterback who should have the good notion to stay out of a fight on the field. Instead he ran at Garrett like a tough guy, and then played victim when he was hit. Should Garrett have done it? No. Should he be punished? Yes. So should Rudolph. The linemen should lose a game for kicking Garrett after he was knocked down, and the other Browns player (I forget his name off the top of my head) who pushed Rudolph down after the fact should lose a game. Its an embarrassment for the team, and for the city.
All the people claiming criminal charges should be pressed are ridiculous, and hoping to drum up more drama and controversy. It wasn't a criminal blow: it was a hit from the front on a target that was making the active decision to fight back with two additional adversaries holding him back. It might've been dirty, but it wasn't as evil as people are making it out to be. Garrett shouldn't get jail time for this, and being the loser on the sidelines who embarrassed his team with no pay for the rest of the season is punishment enough.
The next game at Pittsburgh will be interesting. I kind of hope they win again just to see what would happen.
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You know, I love the Browns.
The other 0-3 win teams in the league might seem even more hopeless at times, but they're also boring. The Bengals are losing every week and nobody cares, because I'm pretty sure 99% of people see them in the schedule and go "OK, well I'm definitely not watching that in the early window, that narrows it down".
Some tragic teams irk me because of their annoying overhyping like the Cowboys, Vikings, Chargers some years, etc.
The Browns though.. this is the gold standard of dumpster fire sports teams. The 1-31 Hue Jackson era, you had some amazingly creative ways to lose in there. Last year's season? Blockbuster. Almost every game, win lose or tie, was a gong show. Just when it was about to be a wrap, they start winning, and winning some more. This team could really be going places now. Could the Browns actually get good?
Offseason 2019. A huge influx of star talent into the offense. I myself thought, they're just too stacked to not at least compete for a wild card.
And then this year unfolds the way it has. Doesn't matter if they had a fantasy league-winning-esque roster every week, this is Cleveland we're talking about, and they will find a way to fuck it up, and they will keep you on your toes and surprise you with how they manage to do that, always. I feel blessed to even be on the sidelines to behold it, honestly.
The other 0-3 win teams in the league might seem even more hopeless at times, but they're also boring. The Bengals are losing every week and nobody cares, because I'm pretty sure 99% of people see them in the schedule and go "OK, well I'm definitely not watching that in the early window, that narrows it down".
Some tragic teams irk me because of their annoying overhyping like the Cowboys, Vikings, Chargers some years, etc.
The Browns though.. this is the gold standard of dumpster fire sports teams. The 1-31 Hue Jackson era, you had some amazingly creative ways to lose in there. Last year's season? Blockbuster. Almost every game, win lose or tie, was a gong show. Just when it was about to be a wrap, they start winning, and winning some more. This team could really be going places now. Could the Browns actually get good?
Offseason 2019. A huge influx of star talent into the offense. I myself thought, they're just too stacked to not at least compete for a wild card.
And then this year unfolds the way it has. Doesn't matter if they had a fantasy league-winning-esque roster every week, this is Cleveland we're talking about, and they will find a way to fuck it up, and they will keep you on your toes and surprise you with how they manage to do that, always. I feel blessed to even be on the sidelines to behold it, honestly.
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2020 NFL Mock Draft
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Lets look at who is going to draft a fresh QB [and while Kap might be able to play he will not be as fresh as a young stud out of college]
Cincinnati Bengals: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
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The Bengals will be giving Ryan Finley a chance in the second half of the season. If he struggles -and his performance against Baltimore wasn't a good start - the Bengals will be in a position to select Tua Tagovailoa atop the 2020 NFL Draft in the wake of Miami's victory over the Jets.
The hero of the national championship against Georgia, Tua Tagovailoa has a big arm and scrambling ability, and will undoubtedly draw comparisons to Russell Wilson. He's the favorite to be chosen No. 1, despite what Joe Burrow has done lately.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php#oa6xuc2ToupXxIFJ.99
Young Russell Wilson vs a guy who was never as good as Russell in his best season....hmmmmmm
While this guy has had a rough season is he better then a guy who hasnt taken a snap in 3 years?
So no Denver, No Indy, No Miami, No Cinci, no Titans
So that leaves him with Tampa, Lions, Packers, Vikings, Pats , Chargers, and Saints on teams expected to draft.
Packers, Saints, and Pats have old guys and need guys to build a future on so they are all out
Tampa, Detroit Lions, Los Angles "Super" Charges, and Vikings are left
While Tampa is a shit show right now they are a shit show everwhere
but lets go a bit further
2020 NFL Free Agents Tracker
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Obviously Kap isnt Drew Brees good or Tom Brady good. Giants already have a QB of the future but will some team get Eli for one more season [prob not]
If Phillip Rivers goes Free agent some one will take him.
Vikings, Tampa, or the Lions will sign Rivers who is a Better QB then Kap ever was. Some one might take a chance Starting Marcus Mariota over Kap. So that leaves you with one of those teams remaining. You also have Cam Newton [likely] getting cut by the Panthers and then there are no teams that have to have a QB who could hire him to Start.
No way Kapernick gets a Starting Job AND he creates a public buzz about "I am readdy to play you guys"
Grifters gunna grift
Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play, he wants to be a 'martyr' - Stephen A. | NFL on ESPN
Stephen A. Smith is frustrated that Colin Kaepernick's camp switched venues from the Atlanta Falcons facility to a nearby high school. Stephen A. does not be...
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Stephen A.'s message to Colin Kaepernick: You better show up! I don't want excuses! | First Take
Stephen A. Smith explains he has heard that 22 NFL will attend Colin Kaepernick's private workout and says Kaepernick better show up and not make excuses. #F...
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No way Kapernick gets a Starting Job AND he creates a public buzz about "I am readdy to play you guys"
Grifters gunna grift
Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play, he wants to be a 'martyr' - Stephen A. | NFL on ESPN
Stephen A. Smith is frustrated that Colin Kaepernick's camp switched venues from the Atlanta Falcons facility to a nearby high school. Stephen A. does not be...
I guess it's risky for the NFL to touch Kaepernick with a 10 foot pole. As for the first video where Stephen A. Smith said then Kappy wants to be a martyr, will he be a martyr if he get kill by another black like XXXTentacion?
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I grew up listening to my dad talk about Browns games. For years it was always the same opening to the conversation:
"How did they do this week?"
"Well... yet again they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory."
I just want one good year so we can get it all out of our systems.
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I think he fucked himself by moving the shitshow. Now he can claim martyr status after teams tell him to fuck off after proving again that he's a problem.
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Fuck Mason Rudolph. He is awful. I am saying this as a Steelers fan. I was hoping he would be suspended because then we would have to start Duck again, which frankly I think is the best thing for the Steelers. Give Duck a chance at a couple games and I bet he will warm up, and be at least as good as Rudolph, because the bar is so fucking low. He gave up a safety two games in a row. There was one drive in the Browns game where they started on the Browns 10 yard line. And I would bet my left nut if that drive had been started just 3 more yards back, we would have had a third safety.
Up to this last game his stats werent terrible, but you watch him play and you can just see he is a disaster. The game against SF we had like 4 turn overs with excellent field position and I dont think this jackass got a TD on one of them. Maybe he did, I dont remember, but point is for such an impressive showing of our Def, Rudolph wasnt able to capitalize on it.
Anyway, no luck for me. He is not suspended. I guess its true, its always only the second person who gets caught, even when you have fucking slow motion replay showing Rudolph trying to tear of Garrets helmet. I hate this guy so much
Up to this last game his stats werent terrible, but you watch him play and you can just see he is a disaster. The game against SF we had like 4 turn overs with excellent field position and I dont think this jackass got a TD on one of them. Maybe he did, I dont remember, but point is for such an impressive showing of our Def, Rudolph wasnt able to capitalize on it.
Anyway, no luck for me. He is not suspended. I guess its true, its always only the second person who gets caught, even when you have fucking slow motion replay showing Rudolph trying to tear of Garrets helmet. I hate this guy so much
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Down in Cincinnati we have what’s called The Curse of Bo Jackson. It’s the reason the Bengals can never seem to win since Bo’s career was ended by an injury he took in a game against the Bengals.
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In Cleveland people have a burning hatred for Belichick, moreso than anywhere I've ever gone. They'll deny it, but its that unconscious jealousy that he was ours and could've made us a team, but we threw him out instead. Hell if he had stayed we may have ended up with Brady somehow and the last 10 years of football could've been way different.
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Yeah. He was just coming into his own when that went down.
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If what I read in today's sports section was accurate, here is a TL;DR version of yesterday's workout
As I mentioned in a previous post, this was a no-win situation. The NFL loses because Kaepernick is undoubtedly going to claim they're still actively trying to oppress him for whatever reason he comes up with. Kaepernick loses because he's shown himself to still be the same distraction and attention-seeker he was deemed 3 years ago when teams decided it wasn't worth signing him during that off-season.
Kaepernick can claim collusion, blackballing, or whatever. The truth remains teams don't have to sign any player they don't want to and -- as far as I know -- there's neither guarantee nor requirement that someone wanting to be on an NFL team has to be signed by one. The same freedom that gives him the right to kneel is the same freedom teams have to decide they don't want that to be a distraction.
- The NFL wanted Kaepernick to sign something that would have kept media out of the workout to prevent it from becoming a distraction.
- Kaepernick said, "LOL no," and opted to move to a nearby high school at the last minute and possibly brought his own media troupe with him.
- Due to the last minute change and a possible lack of communication, only 8 teams saw Kaepernick work out with two free agent receivers. While he looked decent enough for someone that hasn't played in three years, his longer-range passes were a bit off-target.
I think that's why the NFL really didn't want the media hanging around the workout. Whether their demand was reasonable is debatable, but I can understand the NFL wanting to make sure Saturday was more of a workout and less of a media frenzy and three-ring circus.
Kaepernick's insistence that the media be present for the workout -- so much so that he chose to relocate at the last second and preclude 3/4 of the league from being able to observe -- shows this so-called workout was more about him being in the spotlight than it was about playing in the NFL again.
As I mentioned in a previous post, this was a no-win situation. The NFL loses because Kaepernick is undoubtedly going to claim they're still actively trying to oppress him for whatever reason he comes up with. Kaepernick loses because he's shown himself to still be the same distraction and attention-seeker he was deemed 3 years ago when teams decided it wasn't worth signing him during that off-season.
Kaepernick can claim collusion, blackballing, or whatever. The truth remains teams don't have to sign any player they don't want to and -- as far as I know -- there's neither guarantee nor requirement that someone wanting to be on an NFL team has to be signed by one. The same freedom that gives him the right to kneel is the same freedom teams have to decide they don't want that to be a distraction.
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Bears pulled Trubisky out with just over two minutes to play. Rams were ahead 17-7. Commentator noticed nobody was talking with Trubisky. I noticed he just kind of shuffled off the field after the end of the game a few minutes ago.
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Nah, it shows that Kaep is well aware that the sports media is his most hardcore white knight and if it weren't for media presence hyping his game as still being starting caliber almost every team would just ignore his workout by virtue of him being an aging scrambling QB who will be pushing 35 next season.
The only way he gets back in the NFL is if the inevitable media hype post-workout either tricks a losing team into signing him to get press attention, or Goodell asks one of them to just make him a backup for a few seasons before cutting him so Kaep will fuck off already
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Who turned on him over it? The only ones I've seen being critical of his stunts related to the workout are deliberate contrarians like Skip Bayless and Stephen Smith.
Nick Wright was slobbering all over his knob about principles and how it's an injustice he isn't in the league this morning.
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A lot of sports radio guys have been
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The guys have some good point. Tbh, I really do think that right now Kaepernick and Antonio Brown are the NFL's most toxic brands and both won't play another down in the NFL.
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There is nothing in any of the footage that a high school QB couldn't do except maybe the real deep ball. Plus, still didn't show he can read a defense now.