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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%
  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Firstly, Richard Sherman becoming a piece of burnt toast after talking so much shit again brings me great joy. He's a really good athlete, don't get me wrong ... But whenever he runs his mouth, it always bites him in the ass, and it's hilarious. Will he ever learn or nah?

Secondly, I've respected Andy Reid as a coach for years and years. It's great to see him finally win the big one. It's well-deserved.

Thirdly, I enjoyed the game. Much better than last year's Super Bowl. This entire Post Season has been fun to watch-- the most fun I've had watching the playoffs in a handful of years, to be honest.
 
As a Niners Fan, this sucks the big one.
But after going from being one of the worst teams last year to the 2nd best,
I actually have a lot to be proud of. :)
 
As a Niners Fan, this sucks the big one.
But after going from being one of the worst teams last year to the 2nd best,
I actually have a lot to be proud of. :)

It's tough, and I'm sorry. You guys kicked ass this season, though.

I mean, your team made Aaron Rodgers look like a bitch ... Twice! I think the 49ers are going to continue to be a force to reckon with for the next few seasons.
 
It's tough, and I'm sorry. You guys kicked ass this season, though.

I mean, your team made Aaron Rodgers look like a bitch ... Twice! I think the 49ers are going to continue to be a force to reckon with for the next few seasons.
As long as Jed doesn't meddle with Football Operations like he did with Harbaugh, along with Shanahan learning from his mistakes, I think we may be a force to be reckoned with in the 2020s.
 
I love Trump but he about to get roasted over this, either way its in both states so he is technically right.

He wrote a new tweet giving congrats to Missouri now.

Trump should have stood his ground and sent out a new tweet with the quote "John Brown did nothing wrong".



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Also the seething against the chiefs before the game had begun.

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So sick and tired of retards in the media not knowing the origin of the team name. It's named after H. Roe Bartle aka Chief Lone Bear in the tribe of the Mic-O-Say. The dude has such respect for the American Indians that he literally made a boy scout tribe that emulated their beliefs. This wasn't just some asspull, but it comes from a deep respect of their traditions. Guess you can't expect the big city journos to give a shit about flyover history.
 
Was rooting for KC, this is the first team I wanted to win that's won in a while.

It sure was refreshing not having it be the Patriots for umpteenth time.
 


The Super Bowl is almost here, and this year — for the first time ever — you’ll be able to watch and stream it in 4K and HDR. It’s the culmination of the work Fox has been putting in earlier this season, which saw the first 4K broadcasts of NFL games in the US for Thursday Night Football.

Fox’s plan is to take that Thursday night experience and expand on it for Super Bowl LIV, though. In addition to broadcasting just the game, as it had for Thursday Night Football, the entirety of the Super Bowl broadcast will be in (upscaled) 4K and HDR. That means that in addition to the actual game, the star-studded halftime show with Shakira and Jennifer Lopez will be in 4K HDR, as will all the pregame and postgame coverage. Even the commercials are going to be upscaled to match the rest of the broadcast.

According to Mike Davies, SVP of field operations for Fox Sports, “We’re definitely riding the rails of what we did for Thursday Night Football in terms of the game, you know, just on a bigger scale. I mean, we have at least three times the cameras that we had, for Thursday Night Football, and notably, we’re also going to be doing our shoulder programming in UHD as well.”

At its core, the 4K HDR broadcasts shouldn’t be that much of a technical change. But as Davies explained to The Verge last year, the devil is in the details. The change to 4K is actually the easier part of the process, according to Davies, since the NFL production pipeline, with its dozens of cameras and specialty slow-motion equipment, still can’t film an entire game in 4K. So it films everything in 1080p and HDR, then upscales it to 4K.

The real benefits from the enhanced broadcast will come from the improved color space. But earlier broadcasts were plagued by issues with HDR compatibility and last-minute changes — issues that Fox is confident it’s sorted out for the broadcast of the biggest football game of the year.

So for the Super Bowl, Fox is doing things differently. The game will still be filmed in the HLG HDR format that’s used almost exclusively for live events — as Steven Thorpe, VP of video platforms for Fox Sports, tells The Verge, “From a production perspective, HLG is really the only way technically today to do live HDR through a live sports production workflow.” And that HLG stream will still be used for traditional broadcasts on DirecTV, Dish, Altice Optimum, Verizon Fios, Xfinity, and FuboTV.

But for streaming devices — which saw issues during the earlier regular season game with HDR due to HLG and HDR10 spec problems, Fox is promising that the online stream will offer nearly identical performance as the broadcast stream by converting the base HLG stream into HDR10 in real time.

“Our goal is to have them [the HLG and converted HDR 10 streams] be very similar,” explains Thorpe. “Of course, if you get somebody who looks at color for a living, I’m sure that they could pick out a few little minor differences. But our goal is to make it for consumers that they should really be an equal experience.”

That leaves just the final piece of the puzzle: making sure everything works. The Super Bowl is one of the most watched games of the year, and the huge crush of viewers has caused plenty of issues in the past for normal HD video streams, to say nothing of the added load of carrying 4K HDR footage to millions of households.

The usual issues will still be there — namely, lag behind the actual game on the field, as Thrope explained in an interview with CNET: ”I would expect users to see about 12 second to 1 minute of latency [behind the venue] depending on a variety of factors including: device type, network, and other conditions.” (Traditional broadcasts tend to have far shorter delays of around five seconds.)

But Fox’s team doesn’t seem too concerned about the stream going down at a critical moment. As Thorpe explains, Fox’s system has been through some big tests before. “It’s the same ecosystem that’s done the World Series. It’s the same system that did the Women’s World Cup last summer. It’s the same system that did every single NFL game on Fox this past fall. And so from a core system [perspective], we’ve actually been testing, every single day, for a number of months.”

“The Super Bowl is really kind of in a league of its own. And every year, it sets kind of a new high watermark for digital streaming. And so, what our team has done is — we’re really layering in extra capacity and so we’re actually partnering with a number of CDNs (content delivery networks) across the country. And we’ve actually procured a pretty significant chunk of the internet, to make sure that we have enough capacity to deliver content to everybody who wants to watch it.”

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Much is being made of Super Bowl LIV being the first Super Bowl broadcast in 4K HDR. If you have a 4K screen and are sitting close enough to see the wealth of detail present in a 4K image, the Super Bowl will almost certainly look better than any NFL game you’ve seen before. Or it would if the game was really being broadcast in 4K. It’s not. Fox is broadcasting the Super Bowl in 1080p upscaled to 4K which is not the same thing. Upscaling loses detail and introduces subtle visual artifacts.

Digital Trends asked Michael Drazin, a broadcast engineer working on the game, why Fox is upscaling to 4K instead of broadcasting in true 4K. The answer is simple. Bandwidth. Fox doesn’t have the technology to handle the bandwidth needed to broadcast 4K images from the 100 or more cameras that will be used for the Super Bowl.

Native or true 4K has a resolution of 3840 pixels on the horizontal axis by 2160 pixels on the vertical (3840 x 2160). That’s a total of 8,294,400 pixels drawn on the screen every time the picture is refreshed. The Super Bowl is being broadcast at 60 frames per second and the screen is refreshed with every frame. This means a native 4K broadcast would have to transmit those 8 million plus pixels 3600 times every minute. That’s a lot of bandwidth.

In contrast, 1080p resolution is 1920 x 1080 or 2,073,600 pixels which is only 25% of native 4K. That’s a huge reduction in the bandwidth needed to broadcast each frame.

If Fox was covering the Super Bowl with only one camera, it could broadcast in 4k with no problems. It would be a lousy broadcast and we’d miss most of what was happening in the game, but the picture would be full 4K.

Lucky for us, Fox is using somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 cameras for the Super Bowl. The bandwidth needed to work simultaneously with 100 4k cameras is well beyond anything Fox’s state of the art gear can handle. Drazen gave an example of a video camera switcher that has the bandwidth to allow the director to switch at will among 100 1080p cameras. If those 1080p cameras were replaced with 4K cameras, the switcher would be overwhelmed with four times the bandwidth. For the switcher to keep up, the broadcast would be limited to only 25 cameras which isn’t nearly enough for the kind of Super Bowl coverage people want to see.

The upscaled 4K broadcast won’t look as good as it would if were true 4K, but that doesn’t mean it will look bad. If you have a 4K TV and your TV provider can handle Fox’s upscaled 4K broadcast, the Super Bowl will still probably look better than any NFL game you’ve ever seen. Most network broadcasts are in 720p resolution (1280 x 720) or 921,600 pixels which is less than half of 1080p and only about 11% of native 4K. Fox’s upscaled 1080p picture will have much more detail than a typical NFL broadcast.

Even if Fox were to broadcast in native 4K, many viewers wouldn’t get the full benefits because most people sit too far from the screen to see all the detail that’s in a 4K picture. People in the US generally sit about nine feet from a TV screen. The sweet spot (the distance at which the human eye can resolve all the detail in a 4K picture without seeing individual pixels) for a 65” screen is 4.3 feet. The further back you move, the more detail is lost. If you have a smaller screen, the sweet spot is closer.

The Super Bowl broadcast may not be in full 4K but resolution is not the only picture enhancement Fox is bringing to the game. The Super Bowl will be broadcast in HDR and if you have an HDR capable TV, it will make the game look much better. HDR (High Dynamic Range) provides a wider color gamut and a greater range between the darkest darks and brightest brights. The wide color gamut means more refined color gradations which brings the colors on the screen closer to the colors seen with the human eye. The greater dynamic range brings more detail in darker areas while bright areas seem to pop right off the screen. Put the two together and you get a broadcast that will look more lifelike and realistic.

If you have a 4K HDR TV and your service provider passes along Fox’s upscaled 4K broadcast, the Super Bowl should look terrific even if it’s not really 4K.
 
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Is that dude really any more native than Elizabeth Warren? He seriously looks like any white rando who bought a "native" necklace from a tourist trap.

Anyway, who's up for the XFL next week? I'll give it an unironic watch. Some of the new rules (like the multiple PAT options) sound like they could be interesting.
 
As a Seahawks fan I was pulling for the Chiefs. Plus Andy Reid must by psyched to get that White House fast food. I still think the niners will be competitive in the next several years though.
 
I love watching the 49ers lose. It doesn't even matter to me that Seattle didn't make it this year because I know full well they're not good enough to win a game like that right now.. but they're still the only team in the NFC West since 2002 to win the SB. I hope they have one hell of a hangover next season.
 
Is twitter so sanitized now that these are the meanest tweets they could find? I wondor if any these athletes browse /sp/ to find out real raw meanness.


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Highlights for those too poor or lazy to watch the game.


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Reactions from first take and undisputed.


 
He is back, and he still the same.

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Just one day after getting reinstated by the NFL over the helmet-swinging incident, Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett again alleged that Mason Rudolph sparked the November fight when he called him a racial slur.

Garrett told ESPN’s Mina Kimes during an interview Thursday night that the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback “called me a ‘stupid N-word” during the Nov. 14 game, which “sparked” the viral moment he ripped rip off Rudolph’s helmet and hit him over the head with it.

"When he said it, it kind of sparked something, but I still tried to let it go and still walk away," Garrett said. "But once he came back, it kind of reignited the situation. And not only have you escalated things past what they needed to be with such little time in the game left, now you're trying to reengage and start a fight again.”

Garrett went on to say that it was “not entirely” Rudolph’s fault.

"It's definitely both parties doing something that we shouldn't have been doing,” he said.

Garrett was suspended for the final six regular-season games and the playoffs. He apologized but during a hearing with the NFL to get his suspension reduced he accused Rudolph of using a racial slur to incite him.

“I was assured that the hearing was space that afforded the opportunity to speak openly and honestly about the incident that led to my suspension,” he said in November. “This was not meant for public dissemination, nor was it a convenient attempt to justify my actions or restore my image in the eyes of those I disappointed. I know what I heard. Whether my opponent’s comment was born out of frustration or ignorance, I cannot say. But his actions do not excuse my lack of restraint in the moment, and I truly regret the impact this has had on the league, the Browns and our devoted fans.”

The NFL “found no such evidence” to back Garrett’s initial accusation. Rudolph has adamantly denied ever using a racial slur against Garrett.

"I couldn't believe he would go that route after the fact,” he said at the time.

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The NFL reinstated Myles Garrett on Wednesday, two days after the Cleveland Browns' star defensive end met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

Garrett was suspended indefinitely after ripping the helmet off Mason Rudolph and hitting the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback in the head with it on Nov. 14.

Despite an appeal -- in which Garrett accused Rudolph of inciting him with a racial slur, which Rudolph denied -- the suspension was upheld and Garrett missed the final six games of the season.

"We welcome Myles back to our organization with open arms," Browns general manager Andrew Berry said in a statement. "We know he is grateful to be reinstated, eager to put the past behind him and continue to evolve and grow as a leader. We look forward to having his strong positive presence back as a teammate, player and person in our community."

Garrett, the No. 1 overall draft pick in 2017, had 10 sacks before the suspension.
 
He is back, and he still the same.

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Just one day after getting reinstated by the NFL over the helmet-swinging incident, Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett again alleged that Mason Rudolph sparked the November fight when he called him a racial slur.

Garrett told ESPN’s Mina Kimes during an interview Thursday night that the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback “called me a ‘stupid N-word” during the Nov. 14 game, which “sparked” the viral moment he ripped rip off Rudolph’s helmet and hit him over the head with it.

"When he said it, it kind of sparked something, but I still tried to let it go and still walk away," Garrett said. "But once he came back, it kind of reignited the situation. And not only have you escalated things past what they needed to be with such little time in the game left, now you're trying to reengage and start a fight again.”

Garrett went on to say that it was “not entirely” Rudolph’s fault.

"It's definitely both parties doing something that we shouldn't have been doing,” he said.

Garrett was suspended for the final six regular-season games and the playoffs. He apologized but during a hearing with the NFL to get his suspension reduced he accused Rudolph of using a racial slur to incite him.

“I was assured that the hearing was space that afforded the opportunity to speak openly and honestly about the incident that led to my suspension,” he said in November. “This was not meant for public dissemination, nor was it a convenient attempt to justify my actions or restore my image in the eyes of those I disappointed. I know what I heard. Whether my opponent’s comment was born out of frustration or ignorance, I cannot say. But his actions do not excuse my lack of restraint in the moment, and I truly regret the impact this has had on the league, the Browns and our devoted fans.”

The NFL “found no such evidence” to back Garrett’s initial accusation. Rudolph has adamantly denied ever using a racial slur against Garrett.

"I couldn't believe he would go that route after the fact,” he said at the time.

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The NFL reinstated Myles Garrett on Wednesday, two days after the Cleveland Browns' star defensive end met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

Garrett was suspended indefinitely after ripping the helmet off Mason Rudolph and hitting the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback in the head with it on Nov. 14.

Despite an appeal -- in which Garrett accused Rudolph of inciting him with a racial slur, which Rudolph denied -- the suspension was upheld and Garrett missed the final six games of the season.

"We welcome Myles back to our organization with open arms," Browns general manager Andrew Berry said in a statement. "We know he is grateful to be reinstated, eager to put the past behind him and continue to evolve and grow as a leader. We look forward to having his strong positive presence back as a teammate, player and person in our community."

Garrett, the No. 1 overall draft pick in 2017, had 10 sacks before the suspension.

I fucking hate Roger Goodell.

Goodell: "I'm going to change so many of the NFL's rules to the point where defenses won't be able to do anything in the near future. It's because I CARE. I care about our players, and we need to do more to stop head injuries."

Also Goodell: "Yeah sure, Myles Garrett can come back after only being suspended for a small handful of games ... Even though what he did with that helmet could have actually killed Mason Rudolph."

Dear Football Gods,

Please make Roger Goodell step down so that Peyton Manning can be the new Commish. Pretty please? Goodell is killing football.
 
I fucking hate Roger Goodell.

Goodell: "I'm going to change so many of the NFL's rules to the point where defenses won't be able to do anything in the near future. It's because I CARE. I care about our players, and we need to do more to stop head injuries."

Also Goodell: "Yeah sure, Myles Garrett can come back after only being suspended for a small handful of games ... Even though what he did with that helmet could have actually killed Mason Rudolph."

Dear Football Gods,

Please make Roger Goodell step down so that Peyton Manning can be the new Commish. Pretty please? Goodell is killing football.

And ask for Tom Brady, the Salt alone would make it worthwhile.
 
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