🐱 ‘The Northman’ Aimed to Reclaim Viking History From White Supremacists—Forgetting White Supremacists Are Not That Smart

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In his latest film, The Northman, director Robert Eggers adapts the Norse tale of Amleth, a Viking prince who seeks to avenge the murder of his father—a saga that inspired the Shakespeare play Hamlet. While not a completely faithful adaptation of the tale, the movie pulls from Viking history, not shying away from the brutality of what that meant.

The Observer reports that at the movie’s London premiere, Eggers expressed that, in this film, he wanted to reclaim Viking history and Norse mythology from white supremacists who have used them as symbols of white pride and culture. He later told them, during an interview, that those associations almost dissuaded him from tackling the project in the first place: “The macho stereotype of that history, along with, you know, the rightwing misappropriation of Viking culture, made me sort of allergic to it, and I just never wanted to go there,” Eggers said.

In many ways, The Northman is attempting to explore the dangers of revenge and highlights female power equally to male power, with Anya Taylor-Joy’s character of Olga. But it is very easy for the spectacle, the framing, to undermine the message, if that is all people choose to see—especially since the film is filled with just white people, and the lead couple is two blonds whose coupling will bring about the birth of a Maiden Queen who might be Olga of Kiev.


The Guardian notes that at the white supremacy site Stormfront, a contributor named Yggdrasil—named after the sacred tree that holds up the worlds in Norse Mythology—made a thread of good white-nationalist films that fall under the following criteria:

“Positive portrayal of whites in defense against the depredations of liberalism, crime, and attack by alien races”; “Positive portrayal of heterosexual relationships and sex, marriage, procreation and child rearing”; “Portrayals of white males as intelligent, sensitive and strong – in positive leadership roles and or romantic leads”; and “Particularly intense portrayals of white female beauty, in non-degrading roles”. Disqualifying themes include homosexuality, racial mixing, negative portrayals of Christianity and portrayals of white people as inferior.
(via The Guardian)
Not only does The Northman hit all these marks, but so do films like Lord of the Rings and most Jane Austen film adaptations—not because all of these works have inherent roots in white supremacy, but because the criteria is so basic. White supremacists may not own Norse and Viking mythos/history, but they have done a lot of work of incorporating it into their brand. However, they are helped along by academia and others continuing to spread the illusion that Europe was always a white place where non-white people weren’t around until the slave trade.

“We [worked] with archaeologists and historians, trying to recreate the minutiae of the physical world, while also attempting to capture, without judgment, the inner world of the Viking mind: their beliefs, mythology and ritual life,” Eggers said in astatementexplaining how accurate he wanted to make them film. “That would mean the supernatural would be as realistic as the ordinary in this film—for so it was for them.”

Dorothy Kim, an Asian American medieval literature lecturer at Brandeis University in Massachusetts, made the point that, at this point, unless you make choices to actively distance yourself from the alt-right’s depictions of the medieval past, you may end up just upholding them anyway.

“Invoking the medieval past has now become a more generalised sign of the alt-right,” she explained. “The point is not the specifics of the historical detail or what certain medieval things may mean to certain subgroups. Instead, the point is to gather them all for the maximum amount of attention, to plant as many flags to say: ‘I am a white supremacist,’ and to activate other white-supremacist terrorists globally.”

Eggars’ movie is not a white supremacist film, but because it is still an overwhelmingly white and heterosexual depiction of the time period, it still has the potential to whet the appetites of those who want to weaponize that imagery.
 
While I'm sure more than a few Varangians banged the shit out of more than a few Anatolian girls, I don't think they took them back if they went back, typically. Also modern Anatolians aren't even human so I don't know if he really wants to make that comparison. Also, fuck Canada, who calls Anatolians "Asians," they're further west than Middle Easterners?

I can't even imagine Vikings buying black slaves from Muslims as they sold them Slavs.
 
I don't know shit about this racists, white power non-sense the media is peddling but;

The Norseman was a pretty OK movie. Wasn't anything like I thought it would be, good fight scenes and low and behold an actual plot with morally grey characters.

If you haven't seen it it's worth a watch for sure. Not amaze balls but very decent.
 
I don't know shit about this racists, white power non-sense the media is peddling but;

As far as I can gather, we just live in a world where people get trapped in Twitter bubbles or other online bubbles that feeds them outrage. Where part of the dopamine and outrage hit they are feeding off is being convinced that a large amount of society are white supremacists. As it is giving them a signal they are a really good person among a society of really bad people. Which is constantly being fed with hyperbolic claims to push this. Also making them fearful that there are bad people everywhere. It's really fucked up.

I mentioned I saw the film and liked it. One of these, "spends too much time on twitter" people immediately brought up white supremacists. Then basically accused me of supporting them. All they knew of the film was constantly seeing on Twitter that white supremacist males were celebrating going out to see a white supremacist film and eating raw meat during it.

Like wtf? I am 100% serious that is what they said.

They just get fed a narrative.

It's fascinating to know these people. This one was emotionally stressed and panicked the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict would lead to civil war. When I was talking them down, it became apparent they knew no facts of the case. They thought he was a white supremacist that went out to murder black people in cold blood. Didn't even know it was almost entirely recorded on video. They aren't American and live in Europe. Yet is so keyed in emotionally bullshit culture war stuff. It's just shocking to see that facts literally don't make it into these bubbles. I also should add, that this is a college history professor.
 
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I'm going to go see it. As long as it's not as shitty and retarded as The Green Knight, I'll probably be ok with it.

There was another article about this where in a roundtable conversation about the movie, one histrionic female editor kept going on about how it subverted toxic masculinity, and how there's too much of said toxic masculinity in modern media.

Like I dunno lady, I think there's more toxic femininity than anything nowadays, and we need to swing the pendulum back a little more before everything becomes demented gay fanfiction for the minority.
 
>Not only does The Northman hit all these marks, but so do films like Lord of the Rings and most Jane Austen film adaptations—not because all of these works have inherent roots in white supremacy

And there it is. Novels and stories written by and for white people that reflect a pre-multicultural society are white supremacy. As if Austen, or Tolkien, or prechristian Viking skalds were in some way morally deficient for writing about the worlds they knew, not the worlds we live in now.
 
Fucking vikings. I don’t care about your race if you’re a viking pagan I’ll drown you in the damn Liffey!
Um, you do know that Dublin started out as a Viking colony, yeah?
 
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I love that trapping. This isn't the first time I've seen a "journalist" trying to act "down with the kids" completely fuck up that one.

She would be better served just saying "I'm a grifter and a liar". Would of made her look at least 20% less retarded.
 
I don't even know what "white supremacy" means in the context they are using it, and the director sounds like a pretentious faggot but the movie is good.

Around the time Apocalypto came out, there was some talk of Mel Gibson doing a viking movie. I feel like this is the closest we'll get to it, but at least with Mel you woundn't get lame interviews where he whines about 'macho stereotypes' and says he almost didn't make the movie for fear that "right wing" people might like it or some other retarded shit.
 
>Not only does The Northman hit all these marks, but so do films like Lord of the Rings and most Jane Austen film adaptations—not because all of these works have inherent roots in white supremacy

And there it is. Novels and stories written by and for white people that reflect a pre-multicultural society are white supremacy. As if Austen, or Tolkien, or prechristian Viking skalds were in some way morally deficient for writing about the worlds they knew, not the worlds we live in now.
It's always about needing to alter white culture to suit their batshit motives, but never the rest. When they start saying Romance of The Three Kingdoms doesn't have enough Spanish in it, or how the Sengoku Jidai period is Yellow Supremacist and needs to be historically revised to show black samurai, or how 1000 Arabian Nights needs more of either, then let's see what those respective groups think about it.

Until then, they can shove their "supremacist" angle up their asses.
 
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