The Objective and Subjective Degrees of "Beauty"

[DuskEngine]

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, a decent rule of thumb is to judge how many beholders like it, I think.

 

[Massif]

Guys are hot. Girls are hot. As long as they all have a sensible weight and appearance, clear skin, and washed hair, I'm not complaining.

I have some muscular problems and a large birthmark (all on my face.) because of prematurity and it took me a long, long time to like what I saw in the mirror, and also to grasp the concept that there are (a few) people who find me attractive anyway. I still don't believe my SO 100% when he compliments me. But I'm getting there.

Life means so much more than being conventionally attractive. While there is a standard of beauty, most people will find deviations attractive anyway. Only a very small (and vocal) portion of the population is gung-ho on scoring a perfect "10", and those people will likely remain single forever.

Also I would like to add that beauty has very little objective base outside of "looks healthy". Paintings from various cultures and time periods will tell you a lot.

While I do think the health/reproductive fitness aspect definitely has validity to it I think a lot the biological drivers are only a distant basis for traits that are considered attractive. Like so many things in human culture perceptions of beauty may be based on biological drivers but they are almost invariably heavily altered/subverted and don't really resemble the original phenomenon much. You'd have to dig fairly deep to find how reproductive fitness is connected to heroin chic or androgyny in general, which I personally find more attractive(sans the anorexia) than the more health focused feminine looks of today.

 

[sparklemilhouse]

On another note, I don't know whether to call it confidence or delusion

Delusion. nobody should be that confident about their body.

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I'm about her size and I personally think I'm ugly. No girl on tumblr or whatever is going to change my mind.

 

[Marvin]

Delusion. nobody should be that confident about their body.

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I'm about her size and I personally think I'm ugly. No girl on tumblr or whatever is going to change my mind.

That sounds pretty shitty.

 

[sparklemilhouse]

That sounds pretty shitty.

? I don't understand?

 

[Marvin]

? I don't understand?

The part about thinking you're ugly and applying it to other people. It sucks that you feel bad about your body. It's not a bad thing if people in a similar situation don't feel the same way you do.

 

[sparklemilhouse]

The part about thinking you're ugly and applying it to other people. It sucks that you feel bad about your body. It's not a bad thing if people in a similar situation don't feel the same way you do.

I didn't call the girl ugly, I just thought her post was annoying as hell.

 

[Marvin]