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iirc recent allegations were that red china spies were trying to set up a totally-not-spy-pagoda of friendship in DC
meanwhile back in 2001 Simpsons...
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also it's the Halloween episode with the Golem story
>Bart, did your mystical Jewish monster beat up those bullies?

>Oh, it's always the Jews' fault.
 
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iirc recent allegations were that red china spies were trying to set up a totally-not-spy-pagoda of friendship in DC
meanwhile back in 2001 Simpsons...
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also it's the Halloween episode with the Golem story
>Bart, did your mystical Jewish monster beat up those bullies?

>Oh, it's always the Jews' fault.
Doubtful then the Zombie Simpsons would do that one in a new Halloween episode today.
 
Doubtful then the Zombie Simpsons would do that one in a new Halloween episode today.
Zombie Simpsons still make anti-GOP episodes in current day, while embarrassingly making Lisa Simpson a spokesperson for how America should be.

All despite the fact that she threw away Bleeding Gums Murphy’s legacy all for making songs with Billie Eilish.

Yeah, the latter part still makes no sense to me.
 
Re-watched the 24 parody last night after several years. I have never seen an episode of 24, but the jokes still land because they work without prior knowledge of the show. At this point, the episode isn't really 'modern Simpsons', but it was made well past their prime and a great exception in a vast glut of mediocrity.

I am going to watch “A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again” at lunch because I read good reviews and was suckered in by the David Foster Wallace reference. Apparently, it is a semi-serious episode about Bart.

It is funny Lisa is used as the character for most of the 'serious' emotional episodes yet Bart has some of the best and most memorable; 'Days of the Future Past', 'Barthood', 'Bart Gets an F'. I don't think that is because I am man and suckered in by a male character. Bart happens to be more relatable and sympathetic because most of his faults are partly due to his own actions, like a normal person. Lisa, at least in my opinion, is usually seen as a victim of her circumstances and would do well- in the context of the show- if her parents were more like her or she was in a better home, which is fine but there is something almost mean-spirited or ungrateful to the message. Certain smart-arse teenagers think like this with their parents, assuming they know the world better than they do because they have read a bit more. When they do eventually get punched down by life, sometimes they look back and think, 'maybe my parents did have my best interests in mind.' To go back to Foster Wallace, I am sure he stated that the issue with Freudianism in practise was it made people obsess about their childhood, lay their faults at their parents door, keeping them in an immature state as it refused them to move on from youth. If Lisa doesn't come president and reach the highest office, she would more than likely blame her 'unfulfilling' childhood. The Land of Might Have Been, quite an unhealthy mindset.

Don't get me wrong, Lisa's Substitute is a great episode. She can be handled well but she teeters and needs to be anchored with another character, usually Homer, who can ground her.

I think I have written differently in a past post on this thread so sue me.

Speaking of, an honest clip about Lisa's worst aspects. In this episode, Homer's favouritism of his son clashes with Bart's own understanding that he isn't that great at Football.

 
The Offensive Baseball Cap (The Simpsons) - YouTube

(This was in season 9, but I didn't remember that scene. Could've been cut from TV broadcasts.)
They would cut so much from the episodes when it reached syndication. One joke that syndication cut was Bart giving "Handsome Pete" a quarter and then the Sea Captain lamenting that he'll be dancing for hours.
As a child I'd see this episode and would always be puzzled as to why this silly joke was cut. At one point I thought I dreamt it up as I didn't know Syndication altered the episodes! So happy when I finally got the DVDs as a kid to see it again.

The absurdity that Handsome Pete will keep doing his jig despite Bart running off just makes me laugh.

Bonus: Lisa and Bart discovering Krusty via the "Do Not Accept Checks" list reminded me one of my favorite sign gags.
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If I bother to ever change my username Homer J Fong is in the running.
 
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Zombie Simpsons still make anti-GOP episodes in current day, while embarrassingly making Lisa Simpson a spokesperson for how America should be.

All despite the fact that she threw away Bleeding Gums Murphy’s legacy all for making songs with Billie Eilish.

Yeah, the latter part still makes no sense to me.
look back at eps like sideshow bob roberts or mr spritz goes to washington and you'll see the show has ALWAYS been anti republican..always even when they weren't the "lesser of two evils."
 
look back at eps like sideshow bob roberts or mr spritz goes to washington and you'll see the show has ALWAYS been anti republican..always even when they weren't the "lesser of two evils."
I can almost see an argument that in the day they went so balls-deep in "Republicans includes literally a dracula and a frankenstein" that they were playing with the idea of the overt demonization of the party
 
Re-watched the 24 parody last night after several years. I have never seen an episode of 24, but the jokes still land because they work without prior knowledge of the show. At this point, the episode isn't really 'modern Simpsons', but it was made well past their prime and a great exception in a vast glut of mediocrity.

I am going to watch “A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again” at lunch because I read good reviews and was suckered in by the David Foster Wallace reference. Apparently, it is a semi-serious episode about Bart.

It is funny Lisa is used as the character for most of the 'serious' emotional episodes yet Bart has some of the best and most memorable; 'Days of the Future Past', 'Barthood', 'Bart Gets an F'. I don't think that is because I am man and suckered in by a male character. Bart happens to be more relatable and sympathetic because most of his faults are partly due to his own actions, like a normal person. Lisa, at least in my opinion, is usually seen as a victim of her circumstances and would do well- in the context of the show- if her parents were more like her or she was in a better home, which is fine but there is something almost mean-spirited or ungrateful to the message. Certain smart-arse teenagers think like this with their parents, assuming they know the world better than they do because they have read a bit more. When they do eventually get punched down by life, sometimes they look back and think, 'maybe my parents did have my best interests in mind.' To go back to Foster Wallace, I am sure he stated that the issue with Freudianism in practise was it made people obsess about their childhood, lay their faults at their parents door, keeping them in an immature state as it refused them to move on from youth. If Lisa doesn't come president and reach the highest office, she would more than likely blame her 'unfulfilling' childhood. The Land of Might Have Been, quite an unhealthy mindset.

Don't get me wrong, Lisa's Substitute is a great episode. She can be handled well but she teeters and needs to be anchored with another character, usually Homer, who can ground her.

I think I have written differently in a past post on this thread so sue me.

Speaking of, an honest clip about Lisa's worst aspects. In this episode, Homer's favouritism of his son clashes with Bart's own understanding that he isn't that great at Football.

I was just about to post something like this. The narrative peddled for the last 15 - 20 years by places and people like DHS as to when The Simpsons became unwatchable is a lot more disingenuous than you may first think; there were some really good, bordering on classic episodes that came out in the late '90s and early '00s. They weren't as common as they used to be, but they didn't disappear outright. The show still had some long-term writers working on it even after a fair few exodused to Futurama, and they made some gold every once in a while.

Do you know when Simpsons' second highest-ever audience was?
Series 15, which aired from 2002 - 2003. 13.4 million people watched each episode when the show was ranked the 25th most-viewed of the TV season.

And S15 was really strong. Simple Simpson (the Pie-Man ep), Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore (DAMNED SCOTS, and the episode's A-Plot wasn't that bad either), and I D'oh Bot (the BattleBots pastiche where Homer pretends to be a combat robot) are 3 that spring to mind. It was probably the best season since maybe S9/10.

Conversely, do you when the show's lowest audience up until that point was?
Series 7, which aired during the 1995 - 1996 TV season, when the "dream team" of Oakley/Weinstein were at the wheel. Only 8 million people watched each episode and the show was ranked 75th of the whole season, a 50 place difference.

PatP is an annoyingly convenient scapegoat for pre-KF lolcows that took a cartoon about yellow people too seriously like Charlie Sweatpants to automatically dismiss everything The Simpsons did after Homer vs. New York. The Simpsons was inarguably less good than it had been during the early - mid '90s, but it didn't stop being watchable overnight. The rot crept in slowly, and had the show bowed out after Eternal Moonshine, just after the movie, I have a feeling the likes of DHS/general Anti-Simpsons sentiment would be almost entirely forgotten by this point.
 
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I was just about to post something like this. The narrative peddled for the last 15 - 20 years by places and people like DHS as to when The Simpsons became unwatchable is a lot more disingenuous than you may first think; there were some really good, bordering on classic episodes that came out in the late '90s and early '00s. They weren't as common as they used to be, but they didn't disappear outright. The show still had some long-term writers working on it even after a fair few exodused to Futurama, and they made some gold every once in a while.

Do you know when Simpsons' second highest-ever audience was?
Series 15, which aired from 2002 - 2003. 13.4 million people watched each episode when the show was ranked the 25th most-viewed of the TV season.

And S15 was really strong. Simple Simpson (the Pie-Man ep), Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore (DAMNED SCOTS, and the episode's A-Plot wasn't that bad either), and I D'oh Bot (the BattleBots pastiche where Homer pretends to be a combat robot) are 3 that spring to mind. It was probably the best season since maybe S9/10.

Conversely, do you when the show's lowest audience up until that point was?
Series 7, which aired during the 1995 - 1996 TV season, when the "dream team" of Oakley/Weinstein were at the wheel. Only 8 million people watched each episode and the show was ranked 75th of the whole season, a 50 place difference.

PatP is an annoyingly convenient scapegoat for pre-KF lolcows that took a cartoon about yellow people too seriously like Charlie Sweatpants to automatically dismiss everything The Simpsons did after Homer vs. New York. The Simpsons was inarguably less good than it had been during the early - mid '90s, but it didn't stop being watchable overnight. The rot crept in slowly, and had the show bowed out after Eternal Moonshine, just after the movie, I have a feeling the likes of DHS/general Anti-Simpsons sentiment would be almost entirely forgotten by this point.
It's interesting that you mentioned DHS and Deadhomersociety because I have been wondering why they haven't posted in more than a year. https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/
if we go to sweatpant's twitter( https://twitter.com/csweatpants) we see he stopped posting there even earlier. There is literally no ways to talk to whatever his small fanbase is. This may be an unpopular opinion here, but I really liked the posts there.
I am very sure DHS also believes that the decline was gradual and himself thinks that seasons 7 and 8 had a drip in quality. For me, The HD years are the worst with it being at its worse around season 30. I also really did not like seasons 10 and 11 and I saw a bit of improvement in season 12 but not that much.
 
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It's interesting that you mentioned DHS and Deadhomersociety because I have been wondering why they haven't posted in more than a year. https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/
if we go to sweatpant's twitter( https://twitter.com/csweatpants) we see he stopped posting there even earlier. There is literally no ways to talk to whatever his small fanbase is. This may be an unpopular opinion here, but I really liked the posts there.
I am very sure DHS also believes that the decline was gradual and himself thinks that seasons 7 and 8 had a drip in quality. For me, The HD years are the worst with it being at its worse around season 30. I also really did not like seasons 10 and 11 and I saw a bit of improvement in season 12 but not that much.
The thing is though, it is a very interesting lifestyle choice to dedicate 15 whole years of your life to trashing something you used to like a long time ago, but don't now.

I never followed him that closely, but did he have any other hobby?

A lot of what he espoused were commonly-accepted viewpoints in regards to The Simpsons, but the fact of the matter is most people haven't gave a shit since maybe 2012/13 at the latest, around the time Marcia Wallace died. That was the last point the show could have left with some dignity, after its 500th episode aired and Edna lost her voice actor. Beyond that, it's just beating a dead horse at best and guerrilla marketing for the show with "MARVEL at how Fox have fucked up The Simpsons even further than you last remembered" at worst.

By the time Animation Domination became a thing, everyone working on it just stopped caring. Family Guy had a seasonal rot of its own, but it and American Dad were leagues above Simpsons at this point, and South Park was fresher still.

Now, the only reason people care about The Simpsons for 5 seconds is because of the couch gags, or when they do something completely leftfield like Brick Like Me. They haven't made a video game (Tapped Out doesn't count) in over 15 years, and even now, if they released H&R 2, it would fly off the shelves given how great of a legacy the original title is continuing to enjoy.

The thing is, they must know couch gags remain popular at this point, so why not make new episodes entirely in that style? A whole episode in the style of Chomet, or del Toro, with a bizzarro plot line that would only make sense in a self-contained timeline?
 
The thing is though, it is a very interesting lifestyle choice to dedicate 15 whole years of your life to trashing something you used to like a long time ago, but don't now.

I never followed him that closely, but did he have any other hobby?

A lot of what he espoused were commonly-accepted viewpoints in regards to The Simpsons, but the fact of the matter is most people haven't gave a shit since maybe 2012/13 at the latest, around the time Marcia Wallace died. That was the last point the show could have left with some dignity, after its 500th episode aired and Edna lost her voice actor. Beyond that, it's just beating a dead horse at best and guerrilla marketing for the show with "MARVEL at how Fox have fucked up The Simpsons even further than you last remembered" at worst.

By the time Animation Domination became a thing, everyone working on it just stopped caring. Family Guy had a seasonal rot of its own, but it and American Dad were leagues above Simpsons at this point, and South Park was fresher still.

Now, the only reason people care about The Simpsons for 5 seconds is because of the couch gags, or when they do something completely leftfield like Brick Like Me. They haven't made a video game (Tapped Out doesn't count) in over 15 years, and even now, if they released H&R 2, it would fly off the shelves given how great of a legacy the original title is continuing to enjoy.

The thing is, they must know couch gags remain popular at this point, so why not make new episodes entirely in that style? A whole episode in the style of Chomet, or del Toro, with a bizzarro plot line that would only make sense in a self-contained timeline?
I actually agree with you in alot as after years of researching the topic, I have found out the specifics are rather specious at best. I still share the same view that t he show declined and then became a zombie by the 2000s however, its just not nas bad as DHS made it out to be, atleast nopt uiintill the HD years.
I still want to know what happened to DHS, though. To answertyour questioon, sweatpants has been every involved in politics and released a nopw lost ebook about climate change last year.
 
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