The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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ToroidalBoat said:
"We're going to keep trying to strengthen the American family. To make them more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons."

- Bush Sr.

Remember when the show used to be seen as "edgy"?
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Being owned by Disney will neuter many an intellectual property.

Being owned by Fox will do it too, but less so.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
"We're going to keep trying to strengthen the American family. To make them more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons."

- Bush Sr.

Remember when the show used to be seen as "edgy"?
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A lot of that was the culture of the 90s. After decades of soft TV shows, The Simpsons rode the wave of rebellious shows that actively defied the beliefs that pervaded in past shows.

Fast forward to the present day, the "rebellious" beliefs are now the norm for TV, and with nothing to fight against that won't piss off the producers' Hollywood butt buddies if they tried, it's about as edgy as a pillow.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
So an "edgy" show now would be a wholesome conservative show about a happy nuclear family?*

:thinking:

*(especially a white one)
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in Soviet America the Waltons are counterculture! what a country!

over in the wrassle thread somebody posted this, it's sorta funny a bit if you know USA wrasslin, and a lot are really way more funny then they should be if you habla lucha libre
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CWCissey said:
Why do you think Twitter complains about that Tim Allen comedy so much?
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XYZpdq said:
in Soviet America the Waltons are counterculture! what a country!
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So if Simpsons started in '20 with the same "edgy" spirit it started in by 1990 IRL, it could be about the Flanders from the IRL good seasons - but not mocking "fundies"?

(Can you imagine hearing "The Flanderrrs!" instead of "The Simpsonnns!" when the show started?)
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
So if Simpsons started in '20 with the same "edgy" spirit it started in by 1990 IRL, it could be about the Flanders from the IRL good seasons - but not mocking "fundies"?

(Can you imagine hearing "The Flanderrrs!" instead of "The Simpsonnns!" when the show started?)
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"well gosh we're gonna sure prayin' for them but we're stocking up the ammodiddlerinos!"
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY"
 
Flanders was actually barely even religious in the first two or so seasons. Originally he was a foil to Homer being physically fit, well educated, professionally successful, and happily married. I don't remember what season exactly his character was re written to be a fundy nut but yea it wasn't there originally.
 
Ruin said:
Flanders was actually barely even religious in the first two or so seasons. Originally he was a foil to Homer being physically fit, well educated, professionally successful, and happily married. I don't remember what season exactly his character was re written to be a fundy nut but yea it wasn't there originally.
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The religious element was always there in the classic years too, but I think Flanders didn't completely become a hardline fundie until the awkward middle years between the Silver Age and the true Zombie Simpsons years (post-movie)

It did gradually become more prevalent and I'd say Season 7 would be the earliest point with the episode where Bart and Lisa were at the Flanders as foster kids.

IIRC, Flanders being a devout Christian even helped with the idea he was a foil to Homer since back in the day, the ideal suburbanite family of American pop culture was usually church-going.
 
Ruin said:
Flanders was actually barely even religious in the first two or so seasons. Originally he was a foil to Homer being physically fit, well educated, professionally successful, and happily married. I don't remember what season exactly his character was re written to be a fundy nut but yea it wasn't there originally.
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Him becoming a Christian was something they came up with pretty early on because Harry Shearer's voice was so sweet. After that he was always shown to be religious but it wasn't in your face about it. In the first 2 seasons they just contrasted his family happily going to church vs the Simpsons who mostly view it as a chore, again just being sort of a foil to Homer to highlight the differences between them.
 
Originally Flanders showed the good, generous side of Christianity, and Lovejoy showed the sanctimonious, judgmental side. The last time I saw the show, they had practically inverted this.
 
Travoltron said:
Originally Flanders showed the good, generous side of Christianity, and Lovejoy showed the sanctimonious, judgmental side. The last time I saw the show, they had practically inverted this.
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Every character has been Flanderized, especially Nelson who is now a closeted Disney princess loving faggot because the writers were bullied by a Nelson and now they have the opportunity to spiritually humiliate said bully through Nelson.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
Every character has been Flanderized, especially Nelson who is now a closeted Disney princess loving faggot because the writers were bullied by a Nelson and now they have the opportunity to spiritually humiliate said bully through Nelson.
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Did they also tried that once with Jimbo Jones as well? I remember him in an episode when he was interviewed by a tv reporter then he wanted to do college and got beat up by Kearney.
 
Super-Chevy454 said:
Did they also tried that once with Jimbo Jones as well? I remember him in an episode when he was interviewed by a tv reporter then he wanted to do college and got beat up by Kearney.
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Oh yeah, Kearny being a teenage dad, that was bad too. I don't know what happened to Jimbo.
 
I think the show could still have been fine to this day if they ditched the status quo and allowed everything to truly change. But that's obviously never going to happen.

Off topic, but I'm kind of surprised that a show like American Dad still maintains decent quality even if some of the cracks are starting to show. But then, I think the show's premise allows for more leeway and absurdity that The Simpsons usually does not have.
 
Lucille Bluth said:
I think the show could still have been fine to this day if they ditched the status quo and allowed everything to truly change. But that's obviously never going to happen.

Off topic, but I'm kind of surprised that a show like American Dad still maintains decent quality even if some of the cracks are starting to show. But then, I think the show's premise allows for more leeway and absurdity that The Simpsons usually does not have.
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I guess switching channel from Fox to TBS might have been a blessing in disguise for American Dad.
 
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