The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

Am I guilty that I actually chuckled at this scene. I can kinda relate to this IRL.
Yes, you get the noose.

Personally speaking, that clip was the first time I've seen a Zombie Simpsons skit in over a decade and it was fucking awful. Poor scene construction, overfocus on movement, lame comedy attempts, and Kavner sounds a scream away from throat cancer.

Thank God I jumped ship after Saddlesore Galactica.
 
Diatribe of a Mad Housewife is an episode I have a deep seated hatred towards, and I cannot believe it first aired in 2004! I would have located this episode on the early 2010s if you had asked me, considering its quality.
Like a year ago I had a day off from work so i was day drinking and watching trash TV and I watched that one Simpsons episode where Lisa falls in love with some faggy vegan kid and camps out in a tree to prevent it from being cut down.

It was terminally unfunny and I didn't laugh once so I assumed it had been written in 2016 or something. Then I looked it up and the episode aired in like 2001.

That was when I realized just how fucking long this show has been bad.
 
Like a year ago I had a day off from work so i was day drinking and watching trash TV and I watched that one Simpsons episode where Lisa falls in love with some faggy vegan kid and camps out in a tree to prevent it from being cut down.

It was terminally unfunny and I didn't laugh once so I assumed it had been written in 2016 or something. Then I looked it up and the episode aired in like 2001.

That was when I realized just how fucking long this show has been bad.
Saddlesore Galactica was made in 2000, and that was my main breaking point (though I did see Maude die). Mind you I didn't see it until around 2002 because Aussieland got their newer episodes much later on public TV, but it was so shit and surrounded by other dumb, humourless and nonsensical episodes that I was fine with quitting.

I remember the Zombie Simpsons blog figured that it all started falling apart in earlier episodes like The Cartridge Family, but I was okay with that episode.
 
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Saddlesore Galactica was made in 2000, and that was my main breaking point (though I did see Maude die). Mind you I didn't see it until around 2002 because Aussieland got their newer episodes much later on public TV, but it was so shit and surrounded by other dumb, humourless and nonsensical episodes that I was fine with quitting.

I remember the Zombie Simpsons blog figured that it all started falling apart in earlier episodes like The Cartridge Family, but I was okay with that episode.
Zombie Simpsons blog has a lot of weird takes because it's based off of this perception that the Simpsons was this perfect countercultural thing until that episode where Bart shoplifts and then it became "cringe and normie". He's essentially a fan of the idea of classic Simpsons, mixing Bartmania with the satire of seasons 3-7 in his head. He's not watching the same show that started its first season with the premise that it, unlike many other sitcoms, was actually genuine and heartfelt instead of being fake and afraid to get laughed at instead of with. Homer would never tried to commit suicide in season 5 and have it be taken seriously

However he was one of those people that had a lot of takes that were right on the money about how and why the show started to suck as well as the balls to point out how Simpsons in the discourse had essentially become a boiling frog you couldnt criticize the state of. In a way it sort of predicted how all pop culture has become: it starts off good, becomes a brand and then people feel the need for it to be good instead of moving on so they insist it either: a) was never good, b) has never stopped being good or c) has become good again. Star Wars has had all three arguments about that get made simultaneously but the "Simpsons was only as good as you remember it" crowd was around back then and probably were thinking of that guy in particular, Moviebob in particular made a video spouting this opinion on it
 
Zombie Simpsons blog has a lot of weird takes because it's based off of this perception that the Simpsons was this perfect countercultural thing until that episode where Bart shoplifts and then it became "cringe and normie". He's essentially a fan of the idea of classic Simpsons, mixing Bartmania with the satire of seasons 3-7 in his head. He's not watching the same show that started its first season with the premise that it, unlike many other sitcoms, was actually genuine and heartfelt instead of being fake and afraid to get laughed at instead of with. Homer would never tried to commit suicide in season 5 and have it be taken seriously

However he was one of those people that had a lot of takes that were right on the money about how and why the show started to suck as well as the balls to point out how Simpsons in the discourse had essentially become a boiling frog you couldnt criticize the state of. In a way it sort of predicted how all pop culture has become: it starts off good, becomes a brand and then people feel the need for it to be good instead of moving on so they insist it either: a) was never good, b) has never stopped being good or c) has become good again. Star Wars has had all three arguments about that get made simultaneously but the "Simpsons was only as good as you remember it" crowd was around back then and probably were thinking of that guy in particular, Moviebob in particular made a video spouting this opinion on it
Yeah, I'd forgotten that they didn't like the shoplifting episode (which I was fine with). I agree with the Armand Tanzarian episode being shit though.

My biggest gripe at the time were these disconnected stories that didn't work off each other, and they were becoming increasingly ridiculous enough to each be "Homer Jumps the Shark" episodes all on their own. The blog was absolutely right about the characters' morals, behaviours and attitudes breaking down over time however.
 
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is it like Mazinger where there's like, a few different spanish dubs for Mexico, Spain, and miscellaneous?
Yeah. Spain always has its own dub separated from LATAM (except from the Disney movies before The Little Mermaid, and those movies were redubbed because Disney refused to keep paying royalties to the original VAs), they fight often over who has the best dubs. Spanish isn't like Arabic but Castillian Spanish tends to incorporate lingo that is almost unintelligible to Latin America, thus they use a neutral accent by default.
LATAM has at least five countries that make dubs. Mexico does almost all of them (including The Simpsons) and like in everything else they are smug about it. Venezuela used to be the king of dubs (they had a lifelong contract for DCAU) but the legends are fading and all the hotshots are moving to Miami, because there is enough Spanish-speaking VAs retired or semi-retired or with dual-citizenship to dub anime*. Argentina has risen in its absence as the second power, they mainly have dubbed premium series no one watches dubbed (they mainly handle FX shows, Disney TVA and Korean shows). Chile has a couple of dubs to its name too (the whole franchises of Paw Patrol, Garfield and Avatar). El Salvador used to also have the license to dub shows mainly for Amazon (The Boys and Invincible) but they lost it to Mexico over sharing too much.
Amazon actually got in trouble recently over using AI to make dubs of Korean doramas. Some studios and even disgraced VAs dub YouTube videos to the point that Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and Mr. Beast share one.

*Anime was under an embargo of about 15 years in LATAM that was only breached recently and must dubs are made with a Spanish-speaking American audience in mind, LATAM is a trickledown. Must of the time there are complaints about the shallowness of the talent pool and lack of naturality with the language. For context, anime experienced a massive boom in LATAM during the late 90s and early 00s over how much anime was being dubbed.

Why did I mention all of this? So you understand this:
Marge Simpson’s Spanish language voice actress from the OG seasons dies: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0xxlpe0z7wo.amp (Archive)
Mexican dubbing, like most things done in the country works like a mafia.
Bart's OG VA gets in a spat with the dub studio over paygrade in 1997, leaves and is replaced. No one sticks by her but the dub studio gets into a fight with the Mexican equivalent of the Actor's Guild in 2004 over what else put pay. The dub studio makes a casting call and OG Bart sweeps in, takes the Marge role too and effectively runs the show from 2004 till the Disney acquisition. None of the other cast members are scabs so the dub is a polished turd until Disney gets desperate enough for good PR to throw a fully dubbed season in order to give Homer's OG VA his way and let him run the show, everyone that was his friend gets in and OG Bart gets bend.
How does OG Marge fair here?, she was the only member of the OG cast not invited back and they never gave an explanation as to why. When she passed vultures in the industry proceeded to pretend they knew her or cared, so Shrek's VA (who got canceled on the flimsiest way possible**) came to call an entire industry on its BS, none of them cared, it was just another opportunity to makes things about themselves, relive the glory days and larp as their characters.

** Shrek's VA for LATAM was canceled over telling a newbie actress the Spanish equivalent of 'break a leg' which happens to be 'squeeze your ass'. The actress happened to have a daddy lawyer and the bullshit case fell flat on its face but still killed his career.
 
That was when I realized just how fucking long this show has been bad.

For me, 'Barting over' was the episode in which I realised that The Sipsons had changed for worse. It was a huge whiplash back in 2003.

Granted, Season 14 had a few other stinkers such as How I spent my strummer vacation, Helter Shelter, Pray anything, I'm spelling as fast as I can, and Three gays on the Condo (the one that introduced the dreadful gay rican character). All of them utterly unfunny and painful to watch (We would be quicker saying what doesn't stink in this season, which are moments from Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington, The Strong Arms of the Ma and Special Edna.

Season 13 also has some fucking stinkers like She of Little Faith but there are some episodes there I liked, like Half-Decent Proposal, The Bart Wants What It Wants, The Lastest Gun in the West, Tales from the Public Domain and I Am Furious (Yellow)

The infamous Homer vs. Dignity was season 12, but that one had some acceptable episodes like Skinner's Sense of Snow, New Kids on the Blecch, Hungry, Hungry Homer, Bye Bye Nerdie, Simpson Safari and Trilogy of Error as well as the absolute stinkers A Tale of Two Springfields, Insane Clown Poppy, the already mentioned Lisa the Tree Hugger, The Computer Wore Menace Shoes and The Great Money Caper.

So, basically, I was on the fence during the early Bush years but Barting Over broke it for me, followed very close by How I Spent My Strummer Vacation.

Season 15 is the first completely irredeemable one for me, though I chuchled with some moments of Margical History Tour.

Treehouse of Horror XIV is fucking awful complete with whole-plot stealing from Family Guy. My Mother the Carjacker is, like, come on. The President Wore Pearls is obnoxious. The Regina Monologues is smaeless cocksucking of every british cunt that was popular at the time, including Tony fucking Blair (I hope he rots in Hell). The Fat and the Furriest is dumb. Today I Am a Clown is jewish narcissism. 'Tis the Fifteenth Season is dumb. Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays is fucking disgusting. I, (Annoyed Grunt)-bot. is dumb. The aforementioned Diatribe of a Mad Housewife. Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore is lame. Smart & Smarter is enraging. The Ziff Who Came to Dinner is stale. Co-Dependents' Day is lame. The Wandering Juvie is disgusting. My Big Fat Geek Wedding is disgusting. Catch 'Em If You Can is fucking boring and all the rest are a combination of stale, lame, dumb, boring and disgusting.

Basically, seasons 13 to 15 codified jerkass Homer and inssuferable Lisa, and it was felt at the time.
 
See, I was for whatever reason reading about The Simpsons lately.

I don't know if it's better something like Star Wars where the people in charge are actively working towards destroying the IP or cases like this one where it is not that they don't have any clue about what they're doing, but that they literally don't care either way or another.

I genuinely wish to know who watches the new Simpsons seasons in 2024.
 
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See, I was for whatever reason reading about The Simpsons lately.

I don't know if it's better something like Star Wars where the people in charge are actively working towards destroying the IP or cases like this one where it is not that they don't have any clue about what they're doing, but that they literally don't care either way or another.

I genuinely wish to know who watches the new Simpsons seasons in 2024.
Moviebob.
 
So my plan is to watch most of The Simpsons episodes up to the Movie, and then stop.

The issue is there are so many bad Simpsons episodes during the Bush era that I'm not sure that I could make it that far.
Lol this show outlasted both Bush eras
 
So my plan is to watch most of The Simpsons episodes up to the Movie, and then stop.

The issue is there are so many bad Simpsons episodes during the Bush era that I'm not sure that I could make it that far.
The movie was better than anything made after season 11. I watched the newer seasons a year or so ago. Forgot episodes just after watching them. Really unremarkable.
 
The movie was better than anything made after season 11. I watched the newer seasons a year or so ago. Forgot episodes just after watching them. Really unremarkable.
The movie felt like a 1999 episode in an era when the 2005 episodes were the worst Simpsons episodes.

By God, we’re farther from The Simpsons Movie than the Movie was from the origin of the Simpsons.
 
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