The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

Duncan Hills Coffee said:
If you can find a decent longplay of the game, that's a decent way to enjoy it if you don't want to track down a copy.
Click to expand...

A longplay would work. I'm not a fan of ones with commentary but I like watching them from time to time.

Syaoran Li said:
I wish SNPP was still active.

I'm surprised a new group of people haven't come in and made new episode capsules. I used to love reading those as a kid back in the mid-2000's. Even after they stopped making new ones altogether, they were still popular for a little while after. I'm kind of surprised we never saw them finish the capsules for Season 13.

I think we could use a new group kind of like SNPP, now that we have the virtue of hindsight. Most of the SNPP Episode Capsules were current up to Season 12. I remember discovering Simpsons Archive in 2003-2004 and people were worried about the big hiatus. Then they came back to do capsules for Season 13, but then just stopped after a few episodes.

I'd love to see new Episode Capsules done. I'd basically make all new capsules for the first twelve seasons, now that we have the benefit of hindsight and also finish the rest of Season 13's capsules and then do Seasons 14-18 and the movie.

Anything after that would be a waste of time, unless you wanted to do capsules for "event episodes" like the Treehouse of Horror episodes or the crossovers with Family Guy and Futurama, or maybe the really egregiously bad post-movie episodes like Lisa Goes Gaga or That 90's Show.

Hell, I'm surprised the "Episode Capsule" concept didn't really take off outside of SNPP.

I remember seeing a few Futurama episode capsules back in the 2000's, but I don't think it caught on outside of that and I think a lot of those were done by some of the SNPP guys who also liked Futurama.
Click to expand...

I loved reading SNPP. One of the first sites that I spent hours on. I didn't really read the episode quotes unless I was looking for a certain quote. But I'm a trivia nerd so all that info (especially with something as trivia heavy as The Simpsons) was enjoyable. Hell I'll still look up something on SNPP from time to time. One time I was watching the episode where Bart is given ADD medicine and rides a tank, and I couldn't remember what this Spice Channel Moe mentioned was despite having an idea. Guess what had the answer online? It's a gigantic shame that the site is pretty much dead even after the move.

I've seen blogs that extensively cover episodes of shows but not to the extent that the SNPP episode capsules did. Not even wikis go that far. I guess that given how big each one is, it took forever to make them.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Uncanny Valley, Syaoran Li and Trilby
toilet_rainbow said:
A longplay would work. I'm not a fan of ones with commentary but I like watching them from time to time.



I loved reading SNPP. One of the first sites that I spent hours on. I didn't really read the episode quotes unless I was looking for a certain quote. But I'm a trivia nerd so all that info (especially with something as trivia heavy as The Simpsons) was enjoyable. Hell I'll still look up something on SNPP from time to time. One time I was watching the episode where Bart is given ADD medicine and rides a tank, and I couldn't remember what this Spice Channel Moe mentioned was despite having an idea. Guess what had the answer online? It's a gigantic shame that the site is pretty much dead even after the move.

I've seen blogs that extensively cover episodes of shows but not to the extent that the SNPP episode capsules did. Not even wikis go that far. I guess that given how big each one is, it took forever to make them.
Click to expand...
Shame SNPP just petered out like that.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Jewelsmakerguy and Syaoran Li
toilet_rainbow said:
A longplay would work. I'm not a fan of ones with commentary but I like watching them from time to time.



I loved reading SNPP. One of the first sites that I spent hours on. I didn't really read the episode quotes unless I was looking for a certain quote. But I'm a trivia nerd so all that info (especially with something as trivia heavy as The Simpsons) was enjoyable. Hell I'll still look up something on SNPP from time to time. One time I was watching the episode where Bart is given ADD medicine and rides a tank, and I couldn't remember what this Spice Channel Moe mentioned was despite having an idea. Guess what had the answer online? It's a gigantic shame that the site is pretty much dead even after the move.

I've seen blogs that extensively cover episodes of shows but not to the extent that the SNPP episode capsules did. Not even wikis go that far. I guess that given how big each one is, it took forever to make them.
Click to expand...

Agreed. I loved The Simpsons Archive's Episode Capsules. I started spending a lot of my early online days there shortly after SNPP renamed itself Simpsons Archive. This was around 2004 or so, I'm not sure when the domain name actually changed, but I do remember the site called itself The Simpsons Archive on the front page.

Trilby said:
Shame SNPP just petered out like that.
Click to expand...

True. Personally, I'd love to be part of an SNPP-type of group that makes new episode capsules, either for The Simpsons or other shows like King of the Hill, Futurama, or even live-action shows like Seinfeld or Malcolm In The Middle

Imagine episode capsules for The Simpsons if they were done by us Kiwis instead of branching off from Usenet like SNPP did.

Maybe we could have a group together and just do episode capsules here on the Farms in thread format?

Personally, I think it's worth giving a try.
 
Syaoran Li said:
I wish SNPP was still active.
Click to expand...
Well thank you for introducing me to this site. I took a glance at a couple of the capsules and the sheer attention to every minute detail is insane, at least in the ones I saw.

There really needs to be more sites like this, where people just point out all the obscure minute details of an episode without it devolving into spergery.
 
  • Agree
  • Like
Reactions: Uncanny Valley, toilet_rainbow, Trilby and 1 other person
I remember going to SNPP back in the early 2000s. I also posted on Nohomers for a brief time and stopped because the forum and show both sucked.
 
  • Feels
Reactions: Travoltron
ToroidalBoat said:
I currently think of Simpsons quality more simply:

before season 11: good
after season 10: crap
Click to expand...

For me, the dividing line would be either Season 15 or the movie.

Season 11-13 had some real gems like "Behind The Laughter" and "The Old Man and the Key", and Seasons 14-15 were okay but not great.

Otherwise, I pretty much agree with you.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
Reactions: Uncanny Valley, deeman and ToroidalBoat
Syaoran Li said:
Season 11-13 had some real gems like "Behind The Laughter" and "The Old Man and the Key"[...]
Click to expand...
There are some I like after 10, like "Behind The Laughter" and that one where Apu is sarcastic over banana bread, but they're exceptions. Like I think I said way earlier in this thread, to me it was Phil Hartman dying (no more Troy or Hutz) that pretty much meant the end of the good show (he last "appeared" in season 10).
 
  • Feels
  • Agree
Reactions: Zaryiu, Uncanny Valley and Syaoran Li
ToroidalBoat said:
There are a few I like after 10, like "Behind The Laughter" and the one where Apu is sarcastic on banana bread, but they're exceptions. Like I think I said way earlier in this thread, to me it was Phil Hartman dying (no more Troy or Hutz) that pretty much marked the end of the good show (he last "appeared" in season 10).
Click to expand...

Understandable.

See, the thing about The Simpsons is that there's really not much of a single definitive point where it jumped the shark and the decline was a more gradual process. Everyone has a different point where they stopped watching and everyone agrees that the first eight to ten seasons are golden, but after that, the point where it becomes "Zombie Simpsons" wildly varies.

If you're going to pick a single moment to serve as the ceremonial date for the show's decline, I'd say either the death of Phil Hartman or the movie would be your best picks.

For me, I have the movie as that cut-off point, mainly because it came out in 2007 and it sort of symbolically ties in with a lot of the big changes to pop culture in the late 2000's and 2010's, most of which have been changes for the worse.

The movie itself is good, but everything after that was awful, and you could definitely see a downward trend in the last two or three seasons that preceded it.
 
  • Agree
  • Feels
Reactions: Mr. Awesome Man, The Last Stand, I Love Beef and 2 others
Syaoran Li said:
Everyone has a different point where they stopped watching [...]
Click to expand...
That reminds me: sometime last decade, the TV station that aired the reruns started exclusively airing reruns from Zombie Simpsons (at the time I called it "crappingly new"). I got so sick of only seeing "crappingly new" episodes that I actually emailed the station and asked (politely of course) why. From what I recall, they said it was some licensing issue. Back in the 90s, said station would air an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation, followed by 2 good episodes in a row. As a kid I enjoyed that.

I remember seeing the movie once, but it wasn't really enjoyable.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
  • Agree
Reactions: Mr. Awesome Man, Uncanny Valley, Trombonista and 2 others
I think Kill the Alligator and Run is the only post-season 9 episode besides Holidays of Future Passed I've ever watched, and I only laughed once at "Florida? But that's America's wang!" The rest of the episode was boring and shitty and not funny.

Also Holidays of Future Passed is overrated as fuck.
 
  • Feels
Reactions: Travoltron, The Pink Panther, Jewelsmakerguy and 2 others
vertexwindi said:
I think Kill the Alligator and Run is the only post-season 9 episode besides Holidays of Future Passed I've ever watched, and I only laughed once at "Florida? But that's America's wang!" The rest of the episode was boring and shitty and not funny.

Also Holidays of Future Passed is overrated as fuck.
Click to expand...
What really gets me about Kill the Alligator and Run is that in a later episode, they completely disregard the fact the family's even banned there so they can go to the show's version of Epcot.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Uncanny Valley, Trombonista and ToroidalBoat
ToroidalBoat said:
How does Di$ney evade laws against monopolies?


That's how computers work: digital variables are precise. Back when the Simpsons were drawn by hand, human error -- however slight -- gave the non-digital animation the "fluidity" it had.
Click to expand...
If I remember correctly they just started ironing that out with 3d at Arcsys but it's still experimental as all hell.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: ToroidalBoat
TrippinKahlua said:
In the mid 90s, the Simpsons were more about sentimentality than humor, from my hindsight at least.

Like, Season 5 had episodes like "Homer loves Flanders" that had real good touching moments.
Click to expand...
This is something I find fascinating about older Simpsons compared to modern. Because there are a lot of sentimental episodes in the show, but they work because they never betray the show's humor.

One of my favorite episodes is And Maggie Makes Three. It's a really funny episode but its ending also melts even my flinty shriveled heart. That's not the only one either, Lisa's First Word's ending is great because it's both sweet and a nice way to wrap up the running joke throughout the episode.

Now though? Modern Simpsons can't really handle such emotion without becoming sickeningly overblown. It's especially bad because the episodes just aren't funny enough to carry the emotional moments, but it's not like the emotional moments are well written either. I remember back when I was watching the current episodes I thought the show had a bad habit of becoming sappy and that overrode the humor. Thing is, that sentimentality was always there, it's just the show used to be smarter and funnier to where it wasn't obnoxious.
 
Last edited:
  • Agree
  • Feels
Reactions: Pina Colada, GeneralFriendliness, Silence of the Troons and 5 others
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
This is something I find fascinating about older Simpsons compared to modern. Because there are a lot of sentimental episodes in the show, but they work because they never betray the show's humor.

One of my favorite episodes is And Maggie Makes Three. It's a really funny episode but its ending also melts even my flinty shriveled heart. That's not the only one either, Lisa's First Word's ending is great because it's both sweet and a nice way to wrap up the running joke throughout the episode.

Now though? Modern Simpsons can't really handle such emotion without becoming sickeningly overblown. It's especially bad because the episodes just aren't funny enough to carry the emotional moments, but it's not like the emotional moments are well written either. I remember back when I was watching the current episodes I thought the show had a bad habit of becoming sappy and that overrode the humor. Thing is, that sentimentality was always there, it's just the show used to be smarter and funnier to where it wasn't obnoxious.
Click to expand...

I think the Gamblor bit from Season 5 episode "$pringfield (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling)" highlights this very well.


It is one of my favorite Homer moments ever because it shows that, yes, Homer does love his family and his children, and seeing one of them reduced to tears legit breaks his heart, but then he goes off on a wild rant about "Gamblor" that shows his heart is in the right place, he actually is a caring father and husband, but he's still the buffoon we all know and love.

 
Last edited:
  • Agree
  • Like
  • Winner
Reactions: Ughubughughughughughghlug, BetterFuckChuck, graywolf88 and 11 others
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back