The Origin of the CWCism "Q-Sand"?

[NobleGreyHorse]

The Bay Area Rapid Transit police tased, I think fatally, a black man who was already (a) cuffed and (b) face down on the ground, unresisting. As much as my white hippie friends would like me to believe the Bay Area is heaven on earth... yeah, no. Also, Baltimore is such a shithole generally (unless you're a tourist dropping money at the Inner Harbor) that I am frequently surprised the skinny, gay John Waters survived to adulthood.

 

[Midnight Kissy Bull]

An anecdotal aside... I've been to just about every state of the union (spending a lot of time in coastal states with a Naval facility), and I've never heard racial slurs used in a derogatory manner (as opposed to in colloquial jest), more than Berkeley, CA. That genuinely surprised me, considering the public impression of Berkeley being a progressive hippie haven of acceptance and spirituality. I thought I was being punked by my "friends," until I ran into more and more random people dropping shit like "nigger," "spic," and "wetback" left and right. It was said so casually, too. It was never directed at any specific person that was present, mind you, but privately among themselves. It was also odd they felt comfortable enough to do this when I was around, despite me looking reasonably Latin American (at least I think so). At least I never heard any non-ironic gay slurs. Ann Arbor, near-north Chicago, Virginia Beach, Hampton/Newport News, D.C., and Baltimore were also pretty bad, while I rarely saw it in deep Southern states (though, I felt I was ignored more in Southern and Southwestern states).

I frequent Virginia Beach--have to, my job is there--and I can testify to this. Although derogatory remarks are geared more toward Filipinos. There's a huge Filipino population in the Hampton Roads area, and quite a few whites don't take kindly to them marrying "honorable Navy men" and bringing along their families to the States.

Interestingly enough, my husband's graduating class was about 90% Filipino.

Have to agree with racial slurs being rare in the South, at least in the parts where I've lived and visited. Only the really old timers use those words. We're also starting to see more interracial dating and marrying among blacks and whites. No one bats an eye when they see a black and white couple with their kids. Love is love, lust is lust, and all that.

 

[BALLZ-BROKEN]

The Bay Area Rapid Transit police tased, I think fatally, a black man who was already (a) cuffed and (b) face down on the ground, unresisting. As much as my white hippie friends would like me to believe the Bay Area is heaven on earth... yeah, no. Also, Baltimore is such a shithole generally (unless you're a tourist dropping money at the Inner Harbor) that I am frequently surprised the skinny, gay John Waters survived to adulthood.

Are you thinking of the guy who was shot in the back because the cop reached for his pistol instead of a taser, or is this a separate incident?

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

You're right. That's the incident I was thinking of -- I had the godawful details mixed up, and I still don't buy that excuse. If you get up in the morning, and you always put your pistol/holster in Position A and your taser or pepper spray in Position B -- if you always do this, just like you put your socks and underwear on before your pants -- how in the hell do you get the two confused? Argh.

Sorry for the threadjack.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

You're right. That's the incident I was thinking of -- I had the godawful details mixed up, and I still don't buy that excuse. If you get up in the morning, and you always put your pistol/holster in Position A and your taser or pepper spray in Position B -- if you always do this, just like you put your socks and underwear on before your pants -- how in the hell do you get the two confused? Argh.

Sorry for the threadjack.

Well to be fair, I always have my wallet in my back right pocket, my keys in my right front, and my phone in my front left. I've been driving before and felt that the keys weren't there and thought "Shit, is it too late to turn around?" I've also been on the phone with somebody and felt it wasn't where it was supposed to be and said "Hold on, I can't find my phone."

So I can understand idiocy in this regard.

 

[The Dude]

You're right. That's the incident I was thinking of -- I had the godawful details mixed up, and I still don't buy that excuse. If you get up in the morning, and you always put your pistol/holster in Position A and your taser or pepper spray in Position B -- if you always do this, just like you put your socks and underwear on before your pants -- how in the hell do you get the two confused? Argh.

Sorry for the threadjack.

Not to be a wrongful shooting apologist, but unless you personally have had to carry a gun every day for a living, or as someone with a concealed weapon permit, you just wouldn't understand. I've carried firearms for work and because I had a CCW and there are times where you can forget you had it and have to put your hand on the grip to reassure yourself that it's there. Also in a high stress situation you can mistakenly think it's in a different position, or reach for the lethal weapon because your training kicks in and you're always trained to reach for your sidearm first in an emergency. Reaching for a non-lethal weapon is more of a conscious decision whereas reaching for the sidearm is drilled into you to make it automatic, instinctual.

Also, people make mistakes. You can say the same thing about a pilot who forgets to put the landing gear down.

 

[Chairman Meow]

At this point, this is almost off-topic to the current discussion, but as a noob I'm glad this thread is here. I had originally assumed it was q-sand, as in Colonel Sanders, as in KFC.

Which makes so much more sense than the CWCism it actually stands for. *stress sigh*

 

[The Dude]

At this point, this is almost off-topic to the current discussion, but as a noob I'm glad this thread is here. I had originally assumed it was q-sand, as in Colonel Sanders, as in KFC.

Which makes so much more sense than the CWCism it actually stands for. *stress sigh*

That's what you get for thinking something Chris said made sense.