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I really loved their soundtrack to the movie "More"
Weird mix of Psychedelia, early Hard Rock, Proto Metal, great shit
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There's a great live version of the wall on youtube
Favorite Gilmour performance
There's some new stuff on that channel like roger water's performing some wall songs from a few months ago.
Favorite Gilmour performance
There's some new stuff on that channel like roger water's performing some wall songs from a few months ago.
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I have to scratch my head when people assert the Beatles are overrated and in the same breath praise Dark Side of the Moon, which has been overrated for generations now. Perhaps the Beatles and Dark Side of the Moon need statues at the entrance to the Overrated Rock n Roll Hall of Fame (now under construction in overrated New York City)
Insofar as it is good, its charms lay much more in its engineering job by Alan Parsons than in the band's playing (which is a bit lumpen, even for them) or the lyrics (which are a vast improvement over previous post-Barrett lyrics, but lacking the withering acuity of the next two (and a half?) albums)
But I am not here to knock Pink Floyd but to praise them. Fans always overrate their heroes, so why would I resist?
I have been a proponent of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn since I first heard it as a tween in the late 1970's, when nobody listened to it except Trekkorian-level Syd acolytes. I felt vindicated in my judgment when a whole wave of psychedelic bands appeared in the 90's that clearly had taken that album to heart (the other two cornerstones of the 90's psychedelic rock scene were Their Satanic Majesties' Request by the Rolling Stones, and The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators.) All three of these albums are granted "classic" status now, but all three were largely rejected by the Baby Boom, and lay in dusty attics forgotten until Generation X discovered them and gave them new life. Bands like Spacemen 3, The Telescopes, Brian Jonestown Massacre, and many psychedelic shoegaze bands owe their careers to these three albums, with The Piper at the Gates of Dawn perhaps the most pervasive of the three influences.
After Piper, my favorite Floyd eras are the druggy sounding, prog-on-quaaludes era of More through Obscured by Clouds and the back-to-back Wish You Were Here/Animals, which are improvements over Dark Side in almost every way, from the playing to the lyrics and themes. If I had to choose a single favorite album by the post-Syd band, I would pick one of those two, and on most days the pick will be Animals. The music is atmospheric, moody, at times breathtakingly gorgeous, propulsive, proggy-in-a-good-way, provocative, and still somewhat true to the band's psychedelic roots.
I was in high school when both The Wall and The Final Cut were released. While I liked parts of both, they both felt like letdowns, particularly the latter which sounded like all the dreary parts of The Wall without any of the hooks. I don't hate either one, but I think I will become a teenager again before I listen to The Wall in its entirety, and I grudgingly respect what Waters was trying to do with The Final Cut, even if he ruined the band doing it.
The story ends for me there; I've never really taken a shine to the Waters-less Floyd, or Waters' own solo work. To me, Waters is like the John Lennon of Floyd, and Gilmour is more the Paul McCartney. Pink Floyd's later work is like the Beatles without Lennon. It sounds like Pink Floyd in places, but there's nothing at its core; it's vapid.
Kids, if you are a druggy, try Piper at the Gates of Dawn first. If you are an angry egghead, try Animals first. If you just want something spacey and not too intrusive, try Wish You Were Here. If you dig those, then admire Dark Side of the Moon for what it is: an engineer saving a fading, anachronistic band, freeing the band to expand its ambitions. Which worked for better and worse.
Insofar as it is good, its charms lay much more in its engineering job by Alan Parsons than in the band's playing (which is a bit lumpen, even for them) or the lyrics (which are a vast improvement over previous post-Barrett lyrics, but lacking the withering acuity of the next two (and a half?) albums)
But I am not here to knock Pink Floyd but to praise them. Fans always overrate their heroes, so why would I resist?
I have been a proponent of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn since I first heard it as a tween in the late 1970's, when nobody listened to it except Trekkorian-level Syd acolytes. I felt vindicated in my judgment when a whole wave of psychedelic bands appeared in the 90's that clearly had taken that album to heart (the other two cornerstones of the 90's psychedelic rock scene were Their Satanic Majesties' Request by the Rolling Stones, and The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators.) All three of these albums are granted "classic" status now, but all three were largely rejected by the Baby Boom, and lay in dusty attics forgotten until Generation X discovered them and gave them new life. Bands like Spacemen 3, The Telescopes, Brian Jonestown Massacre, and many psychedelic shoegaze bands owe their careers to these three albums, with The Piper at the Gates of Dawn perhaps the most pervasive of the three influences.
After Piper, my favorite Floyd eras are the druggy sounding, prog-on-quaaludes era of More through Obscured by Clouds and the back-to-back Wish You Were Here/Animals, which are improvements over Dark Side in almost every way, from the playing to the lyrics and themes. If I had to choose a single favorite album by the post-Syd band, I would pick one of those two, and on most days the pick will be Animals. The music is atmospheric, moody, at times breathtakingly gorgeous, propulsive, proggy-in-a-good-way, provocative, and still somewhat true to the band's psychedelic roots.
I was in high school when both The Wall and The Final Cut were released. While I liked parts of both, they both felt like letdowns, particularly the latter which sounded like all the dreary parts of The Wall without any of the hooks. I don't hate either one, but I think I will become a teenager again before I listen to The Wall in its entirety, and I grudgingly respect what Waters was trying to do with The Final Cut, even if he ruined the band doing it.
The story ends for me there; I've never really taken a shine to the Waters-less Floyd, or Waters' own solo work. To me, Waters is like the John Lennon of Floyd, and Gilmour is more the Paul McCartney. Pink Floyd's later work is like the Beatles without Lennon. It sounds like Pink Floyd in places, but there's nothing at its core; it's vapid.
Kids, if you are a druggy, try Piper at the Gates of Dawn first. If you are an angry egghead, try Animals first. If you just want something spacey and not too intrusive, try Wish You Were Here. If you dig those, then admire Dark Side of the Moon for what it is: an engineer saving a fading, anachronistic band, freeing the band to expand its ambitions. Which worked for better and worse.
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I freaking love PF and want to be a keyboardist in a PF cover band. But I was listening to pre Waters stuff and have to say, I prefer Syd's singing.
Waters actually had a local gig cancelled here some time ago due to his political beliefs.
Waters actually had a local gig cancelled here some time ago due to his political beliefs.
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The Final Cut is the best PF album.
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That was a cohesive album of roughly equal quality, unlike much of the rest of their albums. That's where it really shines: as a solid, singular experience of an album.
He really nailed the Floyd sound despite being Waterless on High Hopes. It sounds out of place being released in the '90s, and in a good way.
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That era of Pink Floyd gets overlooked a lot. More is great as well as Obscured By Clouds (in my top 5). They didn't have a primary creative force since Syd left so it forced them to make some really interesting and diverse music.
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Just listening to the extra songs from Gates Dawn disc 3 and damn some of those songs should have been on the main disc, "See Emily Play" for example, I swear I've heard it somewhere.
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Since I have the 1995 THX Laserdiscs of the Star Wars Trilogy (the "Faces" version) I am seriously considering a laserdisc player.
Does Pulse on Laserdisc hold up? Does the Widescreen version of the Wall hold up to the DVD, with 4-channel Dolby Surround vs. the DVD mix?
Does Pulse on Laserdisc hold up? Does the Widescreen version of the Wall hold up to the DVD, with 4-channel Dolby Surround vs. the DVD mix?
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I concur. I have the Raving & Drooling LP bootleg that has live copies of Atom Heart Mother, Cymbaline, and other early works, as well as work-in-progress versions of Gotta Be Crazy and Raving & Drooling. Really good stuff. Very atmospheric. Unfortunately my copy has a Joni Mitchell concert on side 4 instead of Shine On. It does make the album slightly rarer, but I'd rather have the live Shine On version instead.
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The Wall is my least favorite popular Pink Floyd album. I just think the album is needlessly overproduced and I can't help it I utterly hate the song "Another Brick in The Wall." I cringe when I have to hear that choir of children singing.
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I love The Wall but what really bums me out is how it was basically Pink Floyd's end, they never had an album of all new material that was on that level again.
It's weird too because The Wall is such a distinctive album with a style that's basically all it's own that you'd think they could have gone on for longer, I like The Final Cut a lot but from what I understand a lot of it stemmed from cut songs from The Wall, how much I wish there was at least one more Pink Floyd album with all new music on the level of quality of The Wall after The Wall.
It isn't a surprise though because The Wall was such an achievement following what were also such achievements like Dark Side of The Moon, Wish You Were Here and Animals that it's no surprise they couldn't have kept that high a level of quality going, it's downright spooky they were able to do what they did to begin with, but man do I dream about what it could have been like if they had managed to continue that level of quality for longer.
It's weird too because The Wall is such a distinctive album with a style that's basically all it's own that you'd think they could have gone on for longer, I like The Final Cut a lot but from what I understand a lot of it stemmed from cut songs from The Wall, how much I wish there was at least one more Pink Floyd album with all new music on the level of quality of The Wall after The Wall.
It isn't a surprise though because The Wall was such an achievement following what were also such achievements like Dark Side of The Moon, Wish You Were Here and Animals that it's no surprise they couldn't have kept that high a level of quality going, it's downright spooky they were able to do what they did to begin with, but man do I dream about what it could have been like if they had managed to continue that level of quality for longer.
