Megathread The Pooner Zoo - A thread for collecting wild Pooners and posting OC Pooners, and anything Pooner related

[Benjamin Spooner Briggs]

I think this is applied to all troons, even the ones who aren't outright pervs. If you're a typical boy/girl, that's boring. But what if you're a heckin' valid dood/girly who likes doing something? Now that's breaking boundaries!

Then compound that with the ways they horde together to feel validino, and then have to out-unique each other. It's like Skaven but for perverts.

 

[scathefire]

I think there are four types of pooners:
-butch lesbians
-"boy-crazy" girls who are ashamed of how horny they are, the fujo types
-molestation victims (or child stars) who want to reclaim control over their sexuality by mutilating themselves
-BPD women in their 30s who want to hurt their husbands

Don’t you think there exists some overlap within these four types? I can easily imagine a fujo BPD molestation victim for example, that sounds like the exact type of crazy woman that would end up becoming the most toxic and obnoxious pooner ever.

 

[urr13 account]

there are four types of pooners:
-butch lesbians

Makes sense.

-"boy-crazy" girls who are ashamed of how horny they are, the fujo types

So basically a female version of Autogynephilia, they've allowed their sexual fetishes to overtake their brain. To be fair, I think pooners are generally less likely to be pedophiles or rapists than MtF AGP trannies.

-molestation victims (or child stars) who want to reclaim control over their sexuality by mutilating themselves

These are the ones I have the most sympathy for, girls who, even if not abused, were sexualized at a young age and as a result start to identify as a boy when they hit puberty or young adulthood as a way to deal with that, subconsciously looking for a way to minimize that type of attention. I feel like these ones could be "saved", for lack of a better word, if they had a good support system and people in their life who cared about them.

Once they actually start getting surgeries it's probably too late for most of them, and even just injecting male hormones probably fucks with their ability to think clearly about what they are doing. The window of time where someone could help them is probably small.

-BPD women in their 30s who want to hurt their husbands

These ones are the most bizarre to me, usually people have settled into who they are by they time they hit their 30s.


Thank-you, I am learning a lot.

 

[Mellorine]

The lesbians are bowing to social pressure because they're too cowardly to TERF out.

They're not just bowing to the hopefully waning social stigma against acknowledging reality: lezzie pooners fucking hate women in general and lesbians in particular. Which is weirdly similar to troons, though the reasoning behind it may be different. They will rage tf out if confronted with "so why can't you live as a masculine woman? what's the actual difference between you and a masculine woman? there are lots of gay masculine women, wouldn't that be easier?" because being a "woman" is an unthinkable humiliation to their disordered narcissistic egos.

It's that if you're watching or reading a story about a young man realizing he's gay attracted to men like you are, there's going to be a lot of time spent on his inner struggle: putting the pieces together, in some settings he might not even know he could like men, fighting against it, deciding he won't act on it, worrying about what everyone will think. Pages and pages of that.

Funny how close the classic slash fanfic non-plot of "what is this strange forbidden yearning, I can't possibly feel this way about that person, let me ruminate on it for pages and pages while trying to hide my longing for a forbidden love that will certainly ruin me, oh now that an ill-timed confession has confirmed we both feel the same we are quickly declaring each other soulmates and having emotion-laden sex that spends forever on minute sensual details and extended foreplay" isn't a damn thing like whatever Gomorrah fuck-carnival irl gay men participate in, but does sound an awful lot like an idealized narrative of emergent female homosexuality. I always had the impression that most autistic fandom chicks who claim to be bi are simply autistic, but this may be another case of something same-sex-attracted people originated that became an absolute disaster for hetero children. Kind of like drag.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

If you do this and you're a woman, you're a weird creepy sex pervert, ew gross! But, what if you were actually a gay man doing it? Then you're a repressed minority who has fantasies that are o' so looked down upon, but you fight through anyway!!!

Hm, I feel like with what people are suggesting pooning is a result of women not being able to put themselves down from the pedestal of being pure and feminine so they jump ship. They have this unattainable idea of what being a woman means and feels like they can't live up to it or radfem style distorted idea that they think women aren't people, but men are. It fits with "Like to fuck? You're actually a man" "Like [male hobby] you're actually a man" thing they got going on

Women police each other more than they do males and for female sexual degenerates it becomes appealing to identify as a gay because they're so depraved even your most fucked up kink will fly. If you admit to being a sexual degenerate in female presence you'll probably get horrified responses but in male presence you're more likely to get a that's weird but okay

 

[Aunt Carol]

Funny how close the classic slash fanfic non-plot of "what is this strange forbidden yearning, I can't possibly feel this way about that person, let me ruminate on it for pages and pages while trying to hide my longing for a forbidden love that will certainly ruin me, oh now that an ill-timed confession has confirmed we both feel the same we are quickly declaring each other soulmates and having emotion-laden sex that spends forever on minute sensual details and extended foreplay" isn't a damn thing like whatever Gomorrah fuck-carnival irl gay men participate in, but does sound an awful lot like an idealized narrative of emergent female homosexuality.

This exactly, except I believe it maps to emergent awkward female heterosexuality as well. But this is one of the reasons lesbians write and read m/m.

And then the same people who are older and "should know better" are stuck or happy in old habits, and all their friends are in that fandom, etc.

There's a common criticism that fandoms are misogynistic, or that many media properties don't have great women characters, and it's a reasonable one but it doesn't explain everything on its own. Girls are not pooning out because there's only one female Smurf (it just doesn't help).


This is not to say that all pooners are fragile flowers who fear yet crave the touch of a man~~ First off, we are talking about grubby and acne-ridden uncomfortable teenage weirdo girls falling into a social contagion, and not about what they turn into after their time spent in fandom and/or trans spaces.

Secondly, the reason "trans' is a juggernaut is because there are so many different populations falling into it; if you say all the trans are confused molestees, a grandpa hon AGP rubs his hands and agrees. If you call out the jailhouse queer programmer sock Discord piss fetishists, the mother of an eight-year-old kid (who would have grown up to be gay) starts writing letters to your employer.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

A pooner "boyband" does a trans parody of Year 3000, made famous by a boyband (appropriately) called Busted.


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There is WW2 propaganda more nuanced than this

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

There is WW2 propaganda more nuanced than this

I can't get over how middle-class the accents are.

 

[DolphinMan]

men may find pooners annoying and prefer they go be delusional somewhere else

Late and unrelated to the current conversation, but this reminded me of an old meme and I had to get it out.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

A sympathetic puff piece from Australia's taxpayer-funded ABC. Near-unreadable due to the ABC using 'their' when referring to her.

Spoiler: The article, bolding mine

Hawthorn's AFLW star Tilly Lucas-Rodd undergoes gender affirming top surgery​

Over the AFLW off-season, Hawthorn star Tilly Lucas-Rodd underwent top surgery, a gender-affirming procedure that involves the removal of breast tissue in essentially a double mastectomy.

"People often have asked me, 'How do I feel now that I've had it' — post surgery seeing myself," Lucas-Rodd told ABC Sport.

"A lot of people [who've had the operation] have really big emotions and really big elation.

"But for me, it was like, 'this is how I've always looked when I saw myself' … This is what I've always thought and always seen internally."

Then why the need for any surgery?

Lucas-Rodd had their nipples put back on with nipple grafts, which some people post-surgery choose not to.

Before the surgery, the 29-year-old midfielder-turned-halfback would tape their chest or wear a really tight binder, including when they were playing footy.

The compression would restrict their rib cage movement, make it hard to breathe and hurt their back.

"But the alternative was to feel really uncomfortable on a national stage playing sport — and something that's so public," said Lucas-Rodd, who is an inaugural AFLW player, former Hawks captain and All Australian.

Lucas-Rodd even played in a guernsey at least two sizes too big, to hide their body.

"Last year I wore, I think, a size medium or large when I was previously an extra small," they said.

"I had huge discomfort around my chest, huge dysphoria. It didn't match up with what I felt internally I should look like."

Then your brain was the problem, not your body.

Now, Lucas-Rodd beams when thinking about playing this season, which starts in August.

"I've already felt that with training and being able to just be free, to not wear a sports bra, not wear a binder, just put my jumper on," they said.

"Going out onto the track in our training guernseys or our singlets, I just feel so, so happy and so just like me."

'What am I scared of?'​

Lucas-Rodd is the first current AFLW player to get top surgery.

Former players El Chaston (Collingwood, now captain of Essendon's VFLW side) and Tori Groves-Little (Gold Coast) underwent the procedure after being delisted from their respective clubs.

Sounds like professional female sports is full of men who claim to be women and women who claim to be not-women.

Two years ago, Lucas-Rodd was the third player to come out as non-binary, following in the footsteps of Groves-Little and Carlton star Darcy Vescio.

Through a video posted to Hawthorn's website, Lucas-Rodd told fans: "I don't really identify strongly as my assigned gender at birth, which is female.

You were not assigned a gender at birth. Your sex was observed and recorded.

"I don't really feel strongly that I fit into that label as a female, and at the same time I don't feel like I'm a male, either. I guess I'm in between that.

You're not.

So for me, the label 'non-binary' feels most comfortable about how I identify in terms of my gender."

Typical INTJ thinking.

Some people who identify as non-binary also use trans rhetoric, which Lucas-Rodd said they are exploring in their self-identity.

"Obviously I'm non-binary, but there's transmasc," they said.

"But it's something I'm still exploring and getting to and I think that's awesome.

"That's the thing about your sexuality and gender, it's constantly evolving and ever changing."

So, gender is fluid, but you made a permanent change to your healthy body based on the feeling about your gender right now?

Having other players be outspoken about their surgery journeys helped Lucas-Rodd. They often messaged Chaston leading into their own procedure for advice on recovery timeline and the process.

"I was messaging a friend a few weeks ago, and at first I wasn't going to come out publicly, and they were just curious, they said, 'Why wouldn't you?' It really made me reflect. What am I scared of?" they said.

"And then seeing two other people that have come from the same path of AFLW do it. I was like, 'Why can't I?' They've done it and they were accepted. So I could be the next one to do that."

Yes, women are notoriously prone to being mindless handmaidens.

A lot of people in Lucas-Rodd's own life don't know they've had the surgery yet.

"How do you bring it up?" they said. "It's daunting having to come out to individual people".

While their close friends at the club knew about the surgery prior to it — defender Jenna Richarson was in the hospital recovery room — the rest of the Hawks' playing group and staff found out at preseason camp.

"I knew that we were going to be doing water based activities and things like that — and also, being football, you do a lot of recovery, and are in the water a lot, in your bathing suits together — and for me, now the greatest thing is I don't have to wear anything on top," they said.

Ah yes, the universal pooner dream of bathing topless.

It's an all-female league isn't it? What stopped you from being topless before in your recovery pool?

"So I knew going into camp that I'd kind of have to tell the team.

"I messaged the group and they were amazing. I saw them the next day at footy, and there were a few questions and lots of interest … But everyone just met me with such love and acceptance."

Comments that were hard to read​

It is, however, a daunting prospect for Lucas-Rodd having the wider AFL community learn about their story.

"Nerve-racking," is the word they use.

"Whenever I've spoken out on queer issues, whether it be Pride Round or when I came out as non binary a few years ago, the comments that were hard to read were from probably not the AFLW community, it was the AFL and the broader Australian community," they said.

Further confirmation that handmaidens are attracted to women's sports like flies to shit.

"There was some horrendous stuff (on X and Facebook). So I've definitely spoken to my family and friends about that, that possibility the broader AFL community will now have comment. It's not going to be in my safe space of just AFLW fans.

"The broader AFL community" means the majority of footy fans, who don't watch women's football. It means the mix of people responding to her are less likely to have been cravenly cowered into silence.

"But when you're doing it for something that's bigger than yourself, you kind of take that and you accept that that's going to happen.

"And I've got really supportive people in my close circle that will shower me with love, and put their arms around me."

Lucas-Rodd wanted to share their story for others who might be able to relate or feel seen.

"For people that might not be able to have these conversations, might not be able to start this process of gender affirming care, because they can't have those conversations with people in their own lives," they said.

"It's also to show gender diverse and trans people that there is a place for them in sport.

"Coming out publicly with top surgery, people will say and do what they want, but I'm trying to show people that no matter what gender you are, no matter how you express that, no matter anything about you, that you belong in sport and you belong in sport at a professional and elite level.

"That's a big thing for me … being like regardless of your gender and how you express that, there is this place for you in sport."


The main emotion tied to Lucas-Rodd's surgery is joy.

"If I see myself, especially shirtless, I'm like, 'This rocks,'" they said.

My god it's like asking AI to generate a puff piece for a hypothetical pooner.

"Being on the other side now, it's a huge relief. You can kind of build it up in your head, and obviously there's nervousness and anxiety, and that's a real thing.

"There's real reasons you feel that. But being on the other side, yeah, it's amazing."

 

[Paper Machete]

Her boyfriend honestly sounds like such a sweetheart for a fifteen year old! The comments of course are crabs in a bucket telling her to dump him. Honestly, like any teen relationship it's not 4evah but she's lucky because most guys are absolute gremlins at that age. She should count herself lucky and enjoy whatever time they have together being young and squishy feely.

It's not this young man who doesn't like her for who she is, it's her, and other pooners who don't.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Hendrix update and her tiktok which I don't think this thread was aware of.
Her official detrans video

Her eyes look different. less angry.

And two of her recent text posts that interest me. One where the TRAs are digging up her old tweets to dunk on her and a detailed explanation of her peaking. Interesting how she was already wanting to detransition the entire time this thread knew about her.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

The comments of course are crabs in a bucket telling her to dump him.

That's par for the course for Reddit.

And so is this. No clue what kind of look this pooner from r/FTMFeminity is going for.

Same with this, but I've come to understand that pride parades are full of degeneracy. Good luck, pooner. I bet every parent will pull their kid away from you, provided they aren't already molesting them themselves.

I don't even understand this one...

Can't get testosterone until her mood is stabilized should tell you everything you need to know about this one.

Pooner dood wants to go topless while swimming, but parents said they need time to adjust. Comments are par for the course.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Her eyes look different. less angry.

We looking at the same picture, boss?

 

[batteredpancakes]

We looking at the same picture, boss?

Look at her other tiktok videos for comparison. It's very subtle don't get me wrong but her expression is different.
vs.

 

[PigFarm]

Look at her other tiktok videos for comparison. It's subtle don't get me wrong but her expression is different.

Nah. Her self righteous bpd stare is for life

 

[Mad_Dog]

Look at her other tiktok videos for comparison. It's very subtle don't get me wrong but her expression is different.
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How did she turn even more pink after detransitioning?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Look at her other tiktok videos for comparison. It's very subtle don't get me wrong but her expression is different.
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I guess we see what we want to see.

Changing your pronouns on Twitter doesn't magically change your sex. And neither does it take away your crippling personality disorder.

 

[Plum Smuggler]

Look at her other tiktok videos for comparison. It's very subtle don't get me wrong but her expression is different.

I think a lot of her mean mugging is due to her teeth. She's got some snaggle teeth so she always keeps her mouth closed.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Changing your pronouns on Twitter doesn't magically change your sex. And neither does it take away your crippling personality disorder.

In fact, changing your pronouns ought to be a diagnostic criteria for a crippling personality disorder.