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Your daily reminder vitaly tried to do porn but utterly failed when he was unable to get hard while doing a shoot for bangbus. Efukt used to have a clip of it but looks like its gone.

The fact people like vitaly are involved in this shows how degenerate and shitty these "catchers" are themselves. Hopefully they are streaming when they end up shanked or shot themselves.

This is true and sad.

I hate to be this guy but it was pathetically limp and small.
 
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I gotta agree, but I watched his live stream tonight because of this thread, and he did get a pedo in cuffs who tried to meet some 15 year old boys with a ton of condoms and a nasty moldy sex toy + some meth. He may be a trash person himself, but at least he is succeeding in actually bringing pedos to law enforcement unlike a lot of the pedo hunter community. There's no way he's not in it entirely for the money and clout though.

He's doing gods work but the torture aspect / not letting them go even after saying they can go / coming out in a large group of super aggressive men is going to get a lot of these cases thrown out. A good defense attorney could twist this shit as entrapment and intimidation. Not to mention lie detector test arent admissible in court. This is why those orgs do the long haul when it comes to catching them. Not to mention i doubt the decoys are trained in the method to correctly catch these weirdos in chats and calls.
 
Just popping in to remind people Vitaly pioneered the art of faking shit for views; he was one of the OGs who hired people on to his fake prank videos to react to them. Like he'd hire people just to threaten him or hire on women to pretend he can get it up for his vids for clicks.

That instantly makes most of his newer shit suspect; fake shit once, means it's more likely he fakes more shit for the same motive.

Also even if he "cuffs" someone on stream? Ignoring the possibility that said chomo isn't a hired actor, which he would've done back in his prank days. He cuffs someone on camera to make the audience clap and get money. Cool. That means the rapist is likely still going to walk since I fucking doubt this drunk actually worked with police on any of these stings. They walk because the investigation is botched, which most of these cunts do, meaning they can go longer before actually being locked up and shived in prison.
 
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There's a lot of fucking debate going on in this thread, a lot of "deep thinking", a lot of "moralfagging" if you will.

I'm aware words don't mean shit anymore. Lovecraft wasn't joking when he said "there's forbidden knowledge you aren't supposed to know". This is the Apple in Eden's Garden, stop here or it's your fault, Lord knows I've to cope with this shit.

I know this is 100% bait and you are a useless idiot, and you still aren't funny. But I'll bite until I get tired of reading your dumbass shit. I need to write anyway, it helps relax my mind. No I'm not angry, my heart rate is steady, just very disappointed you haven't gotten a pink triangle yet, the mods be sleeping on you babe.

I might sound like something straight out of a Stephen King's novel: but none of this will be my opinion and just straight FACTS until the end. Fuck you.
Press X to doubt. Stephen King isn't exactly a good comparison since his books, while a bit formulaic are entertaining.

1. Lolicon is pedophilic and has deep connections to the CSAM "industry". It's fundamentally a pedo cope.
How is this a pedo cope? It serves no purpose for the pedophile to hold this opinion. This doesn't even sound like projection, it genuinely makes no sense... have you taken your meds?

Don't act like i don't see your '"' around industry. It is an industry and you can't imply anything different without showing yourself to be a total and complete fuckhead. Beyond Tolerance is a good book which talks about the rapid growth of CP, it's creation and distribution. At the numbers they were projecting all the way back in the early 2000's, one can assume that the consumers of CP are potentially 100s of thousands and i would not be surprised if it was in the millions.

2. CSAM was legal and quite popular until, basically, a "Prohibition Movement" of it occured, the same is basically happening in Japan. Funnily enough, during the hardest period of "DARE" and the War on Drugs everyone was hooked on meth, it was just called "Obetrol" to the point "Obetrolling" is a word used in some books.
Hilarious, drugs are irrelevant to the statement.
Legal =/= moral, and therefore has no bearing on the discussion of morality, which is all that matters. The law does not matter, breaking the law does not inherently mean you are a bad person, also following the laws doesn't make you a good person. This is like entry-level critical thinking.
"Quite popular" also supports my previous statement that it is a widespread industry. Pedophilia is everywhere, language that diminishes it's impact should be mocked relentlessly, which is why I'm responding to your spam as a moral obligation. You sound too much like a fed anyhow XD

3. Child molestation is often both more harmful and less harmful than portrayed, the audio album called "A Buyer's Market" puts it succintly and directly.
Not listening to your dumbass audio 'album'.
I've worked with children, boys and girls, teenagers as well, and even some young adults for over a decade. I know you envy me, but I do it for the love of the children, not because I want to fuck them. I'm developed enough mentally that I can, and prefer to keep up with women my age.
Anyhow, jeering aside, I can tell you it is deeply harmful, leaves these kids broken, depression is very common, suicidal ideation, lack of any self-worth (of note), consistent issues with holding onto interpersonal relationships, fear of the sex (of the abuser), risk taking behavior, self-harm, among many other behaviors that would indicate the the impact of child molestation often does so much damage that it's effects often follow these children well into adulthood.

We try our best to show them a better way; though it is not uncommon for these kids to fall into addiction, prostitution, or suicide. It's pretty gut wrenching.
One of the gals I was honored to work with was abused from the ages of 4 - 12, we got her when she was 15; was able to get her in the custody of her grandparent's, as her mother would let her boyfriends abuse the girl, and because this is America, and the "pimp" happened to be a woman, she only got... I think a year and lost custody of her child. After integrating this girl into a much healthier social environment, as well as home environment, and having people to council her. She's doing pretty well last i checked, but you never know what's in their minds, she still has issues with strangers, and can't work like a retail job, too much human interaction (especially touch) puts her on edge. While we appreciate her fortitude, genuinely such a sweet kid, it would have been really nice if she didn't grow up that way.

4. Child "sex work" is often considered a better job than most child labor by their very parents, And philosophers in "le based 19th century" got into shit for being this shit up when it was even more true. You people don't know real poverty.
Hahahaha "by their very parents", because best not ask the child how they feel about selling their body. This has to a satirical bit.
Philosophers are mostly incel dumbasses who "THINK THEREFORE I AM" (this is not profound, it's fucking obvious as is most philosophy).

All you have to look at is all the troonshit with young kids. Mom goes on the news saying, "my four yr old boy thinks he's a girl"... yeah sure mom, happy mother's day you fucking worthless cunt.

"You people don't know real poverty"; no matter how much i'm starving, i'd rather sell my own body than my child's, i know i'm being real controversial here.

5. A large amount of people you like or admire are nonces and the rest are really fucking weird people, this is not an unfortunate coincidence.
Projection, I like a lot of people who aren't nonces, can't recall one nonce i do like. I don't like the current President, I don't like you, and I sure as hell don't like motherfuckers that sing about fuckin a 16 yr old when they be in their 30s. That shit is whack.

6. It's not a coincidence that puritan societies gave birth to serial killers too.
We don't live in a puritan society, and we have serial killers, you just don't hear about them as much since more people are interested in school shooters these days.
I get that in your weird-ass reasoning, definently bait post (but might not be satirical, you're too stupid and unfunny for it to be), you seem to be under the impression that a society which pursues integrity, and basic morality, somehow breeds evil more than if they just let you be you. Though that's not the case. Why do we have rape now that people are very accepting that you can fuck whoever fancies you? It's almost as if bad people exist regardless of external pressures.

Again, basic failure of reasoning.

1. Every man is potentially a rapist as rape is evolutionary convenient
"Evolution", oh so we are talking fairy tales now. Because somehow entropy and harmful mutations only came about in the last few millenia... sure bud.

I'm not a rapist, never have been, never will be. Projection is strong, I guess you have the potential to be a rapist.
Just because you "could" do something physically doesn't mean it's a possibility on a mental level.

I could kill sure, it would be a lot easier than rape, for me at least. For instance if you ever showed up on my property, I would ask you to leave, then I would (within my rights) act in the event that you refused to leave, as I would fear for my life you see. I would be at peace with the consequences of your poor life choices. But I'd never rape you, that's gay.

2. Every man is potentially a pedophile (so are you women, but let's not open that can of worms since you're 5% as "bad") as pedophilia is evolutionary convenient, a small amount of them aren't because they're obsessed with fucking old women
See there you go again, projecting by attempting to indicate that "because it's possible, evolutionarily convenient".
I wish you would apply that to suicide, as it is something you have the potential of commiting, and it's evolutionarily convenient for the rest of us.

3. Basically every woman who has ever lived is a victim of rape or molestation and they were relatively fine
Lol, this has to be satire (bad satire sure)

4. The concept of Justice and Rightfulness is basically the same shit as Sadism, both neurologically and linguistically when look at the terms & conditions so to speak.
Justice is punishment for someone doing something bad, Rightfulness is "anything in accord with principles of justice" (you sound stupid, just say Justice instead of tacking on "rightfulness"). Sadism is the act of harming another for pleasure.

Sadism doesn't require someone to do something bad in order to suffer, for the purpose of sexual gratification.
Justice requires some violation for punishment, not for sexual gratification.

"linguistically" is used inappropriately, as well as "neurologically"; you can't just say words and expect people to think you have big brain.

You're statement would imply, in context, that sadism could be in relation to the molestion of children, or rape. It's not a stretch as i can read between the lines, especially when they are this obvious. However regardless of interpretation, sadism =/= justice, so in no world is rape or child molestation justice.... wait... you really are a FED! -_-

5. The most "perfect" people are basically the most dangerous (hi @Null ! What a 180 flipflop on lolicon, huh?)
@Null isn't dangerous, he's a gentle soul with an rebellious streak.
He thought he could contain you fucks since he was fearing backlash. The story he gives is pretty rocksolid, I don't think he was ever in support of lolicon.

While it's foolishness to engage, it's still fun; thanks for giving me ammunition and the opportunity to mock you.

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Just popping in to remind people Vitaly pioneered the art of faking shit for views; he was one of the OGs who hired people on to his fake prank videos to react to them. Like he'd hire people just to threaten him or hire on women to pretend he can get it up for his vids for clicks.

That instantly makes most of his newer shit suspect; fake shit once, means it's more likely he fakes more shit for the same motive.

Also even if he "cuffs" someone on stream? Ignoring the possibility that said chomo isn't a hired actor, which he would've done back in his prank days. He cuffs someone on camera to make the audience clap and get money. Cool. That means the rapist is likely still going to walk since I fucking doubt this drunk actually worked with police on any of these stings. They walk because the investigation is botched, which most of these cunts do, meaning they can go longer before actually being locked up and shived in prison.
I wasn't paying full attention to the stream but I'm fairly certain they got the guy in cuffs because he was on probation and also had meth. I really don't think the cops were hired actors, did Vitaly buy/make a fake cop car? Is he stupid enough to impersonate an officer like that, flashing lights and all? Maybe, but I have my doubts. But yes, it's always a possibility. It seems like what he's faking with these streams is just the intimidation stuff, and I doubt that Space Jam guy would agree to a stunt that could ruin his image like this, unless they managed to find a pretty convincing look alike.

I think he's a piece of shit doing it in a half assed way entirely for the money and clout at the very least, but I'm just saying he seems to at least be getting some results with law enforcement compared to the people who just roast pedos or install a RAT on their pc to scare them. I could definitely be wrong and the whole thing is fake, but it'd be pretty fucking elaborate to fake this much shit in such a short time span. I think he's putting his skills at faking shit towards the decoys, the texts, and the crazy intimidation stuff like assaulting his stunt man friend in front of a pedo.
 
Oompaville a channel with 5.2 million subs has released a video on Vitaly and his recent going-ons
watching it now, released 4 hours ago
edited to add a timestamp to the video, timestamped to when he starts talking about Vitalys recent happenings
everything before the timestamp is what Vitaly is known for etc
 
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That's not a legal defense in any way. If you pick up a girl in a club, bring her home to have sex and then learn after the act that she was 17, your ass might very well be going to jail. Also, did you miss the part where Hershy admitted that she told him she was 15 while chatting? From the video:

Did any of you faggots watch the video or am I missing something?
I agree that is not a legal defense, UNLESS the cops set up an underage girl in an adult's only bar. In both cases you have an adult going into places where he does not expect to meet under age people for hook ups. Morally his intentions were to meet and possibly hook up with adults, NOT children.

But you know what IS a defense. Your honor, she listed 23 on her profile in the adult dating website. Someone who barged in yelling and lying that he was the father said she was 15, and it turns out she is actually an adult. So the purported age of 15 was also a lie.

I would not be shocked if her age really is 23.

And what you are missing, is that yes, the guy did say that she told him she was 15, BECAUSE 7 SECONDS AGO the fake father asked her how old she was, and she said she was 15. Prior to that, the old guy said her profile was 23 and she told him she was 23. The answer changed, WHEN she said something different.

So yes. I STILL want to see chat logs that show she stated that she was underage prior to their meeting. Because all for all I know is he is only she said she is 15 BECAUSE she stated she was 15 5 seconds ago, when the fake father asked.

I still hate defending that old asshole. But I want solid evidence.
 
I agree that is not a legal defense, UNLESS the cops set up an underage girl in an adult's only bar. In both cases you have an adult going into places where he does not expect to meet under age people for hook ups. Morally his intentions were to meet and possibly hook up with adults, NOT children.

But you know what IS a defense. Your honor, she listed 23 on her profile in the adult dating website. Someone who barged in yelling and lying that he was the father said she was 15, and it turns out she is actually an adult. So the purported age of 15 was also a lie.
Do you happen to know of a precedent in court regarding a defense that "she was in an adult only venue" that worked out in the favor of the defendant? I don't think it would matter if the girl actually was legal or not if she told him she was a minor: intent was still to entertain some form of relation with her.

And what you are missing, is that yes, the guy did say that she told him she was 15, BECAUSE 7 SECONDS AGO the fake father asked her how old she was, and she said she was 15. Prior to that, the old guy said her profile was 23 and she told him she was 23. The answer changed, WHEN she said something different.
I'll take your word for it because english isn't my first language, but I still think there is some ambiguity there.
 
I agree that is not a legal defense, UNLESS the cops set up an underage girl in an adult's only bar. In both cases you have an adult going into places where he does not expect to meet under age people for hook ups. Morally his intentions were to meet and possibly hook up with adults, NOT children.

But you know what IS a defense. Your honor, she listed 23 on her profile in the adult dating website. Someone who barged in yelling and lying that he was the father said she was 15, and it turns out she is actually an adult. So the purported age of 15 was also a lie.

I would not be shocked if her age really is 23.

And what you are missing, is that yes, the guy did say that she told him she was 15, BECAUSE 7 SECONDS AGO the fake father asked her how old she was, and she said she was 15. Prior to that, the old guy said her profile was 23 and she told him she was 23. The answer changed, WHEN she said something different.

So yes. I STILL want to see chat logs that show she stated that she was underage prior to their meeting. Because all for all I know is he is only she said she is 15 BECAUSE she stated she was 15 5 seconds ago, when the fake father asked.

I still hate defending that old asshole. But I want solid evidence.
Yeah its definitely something that needs to be clarified in the interest of everyone involved. The whole thing does sound at least a little sketchy. Its also ironically eerily similar to how the shit went down when the wern went to LA to meet a 16 year old and then when confronted with the fact he was told she was 16 he reeeed claiming 'shes 23! she told me she was 23 and looks 23!' not to mention that exact scenario you describe about the clubs and expecting that everyone at certain places like that to be legal adults being one of the things he has a history of bringing up as a sort of scam on his part where its clear he knows fake ids and teens going to clubs is a thing but thinks he can hide behind the rule that everyone in such a place is supposed to be an adult if he gets busted, cause he thinks he can sniff out the underage ones and play legal technicalities if busted. Point is, its likely other pedos have a similar mindset to that and try to play technicalities and such which might include this guy trying to bs his way out of the situation. But even so he does come off as someone who at least suspected she was underage. Thats the thing about these sorts of stings, you have to be careful and very particular about how its done and what the predator knows or its going to backfire and he's going to get off and avoid prosecution

Speaking of stings by predator hunters that went very wrong, there is this, its about a year old but still a how to guide about what NOT to do:

So they lure the guy to the park, send in the decoy (who looks like a mid 30s hooker and has a hoodrat tier chest tattoo despite the fact shes supposed to be posing as a 13 year old) and eventually move in and confront him, and thats when things start to go fucky. They berate the shit out of him, try to get him to call his wife and tell her whats going on, threatening to do so themselves if he doesn't. He doesn't at first so the idiot decoy calls her and spills the beans about the fact he was just busted in the park trying to meet a 13 year old. She thinks its some mental case or someone fucking with her and hangs up, refusing to answer the decoys further attempts to call. They then threaten him into calling himself to confirm what they told her - and she goes absolutely batshit, and I mean batshit. Starts with the stuff you'd expect and quickly turns into a psychotic breakdown where she threatens to kill herself, all while they are telling her she needs to come down to the park, so before long they have her in the car threatening to kill herself and half incoherent switching between spanish and english and going mental. Note they are also recording this conversation, as a third party, which is itself illegal but note that they are also ignorant of the fact that california is a two party consent state so recording the conversation at all without both the predator and his wife knowing and agreeing to it (and being the ones to actually do it) is a crime in itself. All the while this is going on they have one guy demanding the predator 'speak english' (hes latino) in san diego of all places so a bunch of white people recording themselves telling someone, even a predator to do that sounds like an easy way to cop a hate crime charge and let the pedo walk. and they have the guy with the most issues of the group repeatedly calling 911 demanding the cops show up, despite being told its a low priority call because theres no actual victim, no minor involved, no violence, etc.... and the group doesn't like this, keep calling the non emergency number demanding to speak to whoever is in charge, leaving insulting messages to the cop sergeant on duty and generally spazzing out until they eventually do send some cops to deal with the situation. Who immediately point out that none of them did what dispatch told them to do as far as reporting it to the center for exploited children and remind them that no arrest is going to be made at the time given the circumstances and the need to review actual evidence - which they get pissy about, and then tell them they'll have to provide ID to prove who they are and for the police records (which they refuse to do and get pissy about it) and that they have to turn their personal phones over to the cops as evidence (because they were stupid enough to do all their communication and such for the sting with their own personal phones) which they flip out about because they were too stupid and unprepared to understand that the cops need the devices to verify the authenticity of the evidence, with the shit for brains decoy recording herself saying that they know what they're doing because she does this kind of thing in wisconsin....wisconsin is not california. She's too stupid to know laws are different in different states. Though even in wisconsin you'd think she'd have figured out she'd still have to turn over her devices that were used as part of the sting

and then after the video is posted and people overwhelmingly point out the insanely stupid shit they did and said they double down by insulting them in weird ways. Frankly they're lucky they didn't end up arrested themselves. Nearly driving a woman to suicide and putting the kid she had with her in danger, nearly causing a car accident, fucking with the cops and dispatch, refusing to turn over evidence, illegal recording of phone calls and general idiocy. Says alot about the kinds of people who do this sort of thing

Just to illustrate this wasn't a one off bit of stupidity on their part, here is a second video that shows their non predator related shit. Scam busting related but you can skip around to the good parts

In short they go to some apartment building to deal with some old lady who was being used as part of a scam. She has no idea who they are or that they're coming and is clearly not entirely all there anymore mentally. They get into the building by telling her they are there to deliver a package to her (which is a scam package and could get them into serious legal problems for impersonating people involved in mail delivery. Don't fuck with the feds on that one, they should know better) So they go up and deal with the situation and on their way out the building manager sees these guys and cameras and all that - who he has never seen before obviously, with her and naturally wants to know wtf is going on. So he confronts them and asks why they are there. Instead of explaining themselves and the situation properly they make up a weird excuse about how they totally have to leave and catch a flight right fucking now while giving him some half assed tldr about her getting scammed and try to leave the building. This makes him suspicious so he follows them out to their car, which they do not appreciate and start getting confrontational and aggressive. Accusing him of being a drunk (despite him pointing out his shaking and shit is a medical condition) which naturally makes him even more suspicious as one moment they're acting super nice to the old lady and the next spazzing out at him for asking questions and wondering whats going on. So being private property and him being the building manager he calls the cops to send someone down to confirm just what the fuck these people are doing and who they are and detains them on said private property until the police arrive to confirm they are not criminals trying to exploit a resident and running the moment he started asking questions. They go batshit over this, start accusing him of trying to kidnap them and threatening to physically assault him multiple times while belittling him for being a drunk. In other words exactly the behavior you'd expect from people who were there to scam somebody and got caught, who only got access to the building under false pretenses to begin with. Eventually he backs off thinking they are going to run him down and they take off

Imagine having the audacity to call the building manager a dirtbag for calling the cops and making you stay to find out just what you were doing in a building you illegally gained entry to to get access to an elderly resident after you fled the moment he started asking questions. No red flags there at all

So yeah, definitely people that you want conducting undercover stings involving people in serious trouble who have nothing to lose. I mean these idiots go so far as to fly to fucking india to mess with call centers, send them glitter bombs and stupid shit like that in a third world shithole thats likely to be on the payroll of those places and lock these idiots up in some seedy indian prison at some point. Shows the kind of idiots that are attracted to doing these stings and how its frequently an excuse to fuck with people that society thinks are acceptable targets. None of them care what happens as long as they make money off of views and get famous

Its a miracle more of these people haven't been shot or arrested by now with how prevalent this kind of thing has gotten
 
I'll take your word for it because english isn't my first language, but I still think there is some ambiguity there.
Yes, at minimum there is ambiguity there. We all hope someone would not accuse someone of something so horrible just for clicks and attention. But this streamer has a shitty history and arrest record.

If he is accusing the guy if knowing the old man thought she was 15, and they were running a true and honest sting operation, then they should have that evidence in the chat logs. Releasing those chat logs should not be that heavy of a burden given the seriousness of the pedo accusation. If the evidence is that good, it would clear everything up and I could actually enjoy watching a pedo get the shit beat out of him. But as it stands now, I just feel bad for a jewish hollywood director of all people.
 
Yes, at minimum there is ambiguity there. We all hope someone would not accuse someone of something so horrible just for clicks and attention. But this streamer has a shitty history and arrest record.

If he is accusing the guy if knowing the old man thought she was 15, and they were running a true and honest sting operation, then they should have that evidence in the chat logs. Releasing those chat logs should not be that heavy of a burden given the seriousness of the pedo accusation. If the evidence is that good, it would clear everything up and I could actually enjoy watching a pedo get the shit beat out of him. But as it stands now, I just feel bad for a jewish hollywood director of all people.
Yeah exactly. Given his history of making shit up and all that I wouldn't put it past him to try to pull a gotcha moment and try to rig up a scenario where the guy is made to think the decoy is of legal age and then at the last moment gets told shes underage to try to make it seem like he's a pedo and knew the whole time. It certainly sounds like something he'd do

Its in the best interests of everyone involved to release those logs and the fact they haven't at this point is starting to make me suspicious. Other groups have no problems doing that, he shouldn't either. If you're going to throw public accusations at someone of being a pedo you at least owe it to that person to be right about it and and to be able to prove it. Those are seriously, life destroying accusations and should not be made lightly
 
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@WonderWino My suspicion is that this low IQ streamer was so excited to get a fish on the line to do the sting on, that he did not adequately check the chat log to ensure it matched the pedo accusation they wanted to spring on him. And that meat head was too excited for the clicks and attention to care.

IP2 streamers are the 2nd lowest level of scum.
 
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