AFAIK most of these pred catchers (even the very few legit ones like Alex Rosen) move constantly for their catches. But hopefully they actually are moving because TPTB are catching on to the fact these guys are legitimate monsters.
In my opinion, DAP is the worst predator-catching group and legit might be as dangerous as the "pedophiles" they catch. Most of their catches are like 19–23-year-olds going after 17-year-olds, which could be considered creepy(?), but definitely not life-ruining shit. Despite this fact they often beat them when they do their confrontations and have a legion of genuine retards (who are probably closeted pedos themselves) cheering them on. These guys are not honorable or noble in any way, shape or form and are just looking for a reason to inflict violence. You can see it in their faces that they are legitimately stupid & violent white trash degenerates who just want a reason to beat on someone. The fact they have supporters goes to show how many genuinely retarded people there are in this country, and their continued existence is a badge of shame for the US.
These people and the absolutely autistic mentality that "anyone under 18 should never talk to someone 18+ even if it means they're two years apart" is the reason I believe the word pedophile will hold as much water as the word nazi in no time.
I'd argue they're worse than the predators they go after - and i'm being generous in giving them the benefit of the doubt that said predators are actually predators and these retards aren't trying to pull some kind of entrapment gotcha or fucking with chatlogs, or otherwise encouraging their pedo behavior. Why? Because whatever else you can say about the predators, they may be dangerous to one person - whatever teen or kid or whatever they're trying to fuck, but these retards are dangerous to the public in general. They set up stings in public places filled with people, where they have provoked at least one shooting that could have gone far worse and resulted in some random store customer (perhaps even a kid who happened to be there) getting shot instead, have quite literally chased a predator out of a store, to a kids playground, beat the shit out of him to the point he ran bleeding into traffic and crossed a highway - followed the predator across said highway and continued to beat him to the point even they realized they fucked up and called an ambulance. That could easily have led to the predator or themselves getting hit and killed, or to some driver swerving to avoid hitting one of them and doing a header into some minivan and killed some parents and their kids, and/or by extension led to a multiple vehicle accident where people were severely injured or killed, including kids. and that isn't even getting into kicking people in the head until they pass out and shit like that. The fact they did that shit in traffic and recorded all of it and somehow avoided getting their asses arrested for it is astounding in itself
Point is, they're actively putting not just themselves and the predator in danger but other random people. If they keep it up sooner or later there will be a serious incident and some random person or people will get hurt or killed because of their actions. That it hasn't happened yet is something of a minor miracle in itself
Lats of Peace said:
I singled out DAPs traveling pedocatcher shtick since they like to boast to alleged pedos their perception that they're immune to any serious consequences.
They also publicly tried to claim their 'lawyer' told them what they are doing is perfectly legal. We'll see how immune they are when some random bystander catches a bullet meant for them, gets hit by a car from some pedo trying to drive off in a hurry cause they're beating on his car threatening him or some nutter takes a hostage in walmart or whatever cause he panics and thinks there is no way out after getting busted in one of these stings. They'll love getting prison time and sued for everything they have by whoever got hurt cause of their stupidity i'm sure
Lats of Peace said:
The difficulty in prosecuting assault cases when the assaultee won't testify is probably more difficult when the accused splits town.
That shit catches up with you eventually. Particularly when you post video evidence along with your name to the internet for all to see. They don't need this victims cooperation when the whole thing is recorded and they're laughing as they gleefully dropkick a guy in the head until he passes out
Lats of Peace said:
I doubt most states would extradite for relatively minor cases like this
Depends on the state and the situation. They've crossed the line into attempted murder a few times, caused a shooting, nearly caused a major road accident. Those sorts of things are stuff states will absolutely extradite for. Also some states have mandatory prosecution for stuff like attempted murder, which kicking somebody in the back of the head usually falls under
Lats of Peace said:
It also lines up with them fleeing South Carolina in the shooting incident and returning back to Ohio so Jay could receive treatment. It would never cross someone who thinks like a law-abiding citizen to do shit like that.
Somebody fucked up on that one. They absolutely should have been arrested for that situation. They didn't just deliberately provoke a shooting and flee the scene to another state, they literally stole the gun used in said shooting from the scene and randomly dumped it in public by their own admission. There were all kinds of serious felonies going on in that shitshow. I'll reiterate the fact that they could have easily caused a customer or customers to get killed if things had gone even slightly different with trying to slap the gun out of his hand. Arm gets hit and goes wide before the gun goes off and suddenly theres a customer with a bullet in the chest and everyone involved is going to prison
neger psykolog said:
I think also the fact they're basically monetizing it
I'm surprised thats gone on as long as it has with all of these groups tbh. Keep in mind this is using footage the pedos never consented to, never signed any releases for and its being explicitly used for commercial purposes which is all kinds of illegal. Thats a huge no no in copyright law. You'd think patreon and such would be concerned one of these people is going to threaten a copyright lawsuit for hosting illegally monetized content. At which point they'd have to drop all of that kind of content like a rock or end up fucked themselves. CDA immunity doesn't apply when you knowingly host content illegally and refuse to remove it
neger psykolog said:
and they're not even police or have any legal authority is another huge problem with it - if they were truly doing it out of the goodness of their hearts then they wouldn't be monetizing it because it's a severe conflict of interest.
Exactly. They have incentive to do stupid shit for views. Not to mention incentive to be less than ethical in how they get the predators to show up. None of these groups, even going back to TCAP have had what you'd call a good record of not doing legally and ethically questionable shit to lure them in. Hence why back in TCAP days perverted justice suddenly had 'harddrive failures' when ordered by a court to turn over chatlogs, claiming the data was lost, then magically put those supposedly lost logs on their site shortly after those particular cases got thrown out. Theres a reason the cops have to go through so many hoops when they do this shit, with chains of custody for evidence, backups and methods of proving data wasn't fucked with to avoid getting cases thrown out. None of which any of these people do
Al Qaedurr said:
I honestly do not mind at all if they profit off this shit as long as they do it correctly. Alex Rosen profits but also sticks to the letter of the law. Absolute zero issue with that as long as everything is above-board IMO.
Alex rosen isn't much better than DAP and has done all kinds of stupid shit. Just look how the EDP shit went. That aside, as far as profiting goes, none of these groups should be profiting at all from what they're doing as far as the law is concerned. As far as the law is concerned using someones likeness for commercial purposes without written authorization to do so from that person is illegal. Its a direct breach of copyright law. The moment one of those predators realizes it and sues them they're fucked. The fact they are predators is irrelevant in that regard
He's also admitted a few times to using actual minors in stings. Namely his 16 year old cousin. So theres that
