The Problem With Apu - Designated Shitposting Thread

[Hummingbird]

In the UK, there was Goodness Gracious Me, which had a similar concept. Basically a sketch show written and starring South Asian comedians, featuring recurring characters based around South Asian stereotypes and culture, and the culture clash between Britain and Asia. Made fun of South Asians, made fun of Brits, but it was pretty funny and well observed, so no one was really offended.


It's not just The Simpsons. I've seen the same phenomenon among South Park fans and Asterix fans, and generally any series that gets a lot of mileage from making fun of different groups.

The most prominent example has to be Isaac Hayes, who was fine with South Park episodes making fun of Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Christians and atheists, but the Scientology episode was intolerable bigotry. Granted, he only said that before the repeat of the episode (i.e. after the Church saw it), but still.

Hayes was forced to quit because his church pressured him into it. Poor guy was just so brainwashed by them.

 

[Computery Guy]

In the UK, there was Goodness Gracious Me, which had a similar concept. Basically a sketch show written and starring South Asian comedians, featuring recurring characters based around South Asian stereotypes and culture, and the culture clash between Britain and Asia. Made fun of South Asians, made fun of Brits, but it was pretty funny and well observed, so no one was really offended.


It's not just The Simpsons. I've seen the same phenomenon among South Park fans and Asterix fans, and generally any series that gets a lot of mileage from making fun of different groups.

The most prominent example has to be Isaac Hayes, who was fine with South Park episodes making fun of Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Christians and atheists, but the Scientology episode was intolerable bigotry. Granted, he only said that before the repeat of the episode (i.e. after the Church saw it), but still.

To be entirely fair, it's obvious if you do any digging that he was basically forced into it by the Church. They're a pack of fucking cultists and I'm not entirely convinced they wouldn't have done something terrible to him if he hadn't cut ties.

I'd put down 20 bucks that through the entire argument he was blinking "Sniper on me" over and over in morse code.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Damn.
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/17/5649...ondabolu-discusses-south-asian-representation

Someone always has to start trouble I say.

Yup.

 

[Hummingbird]

The sad thing now that I think about it, this will probably be his only claim to fame. Even if The Simpsons goes off the air, it will be decades before Apu is just a fuzzy memory. I don't see him being a big-time actor so his career will probably be documentaries like this and SJW virtue signaling.

 

[Trilby]

The sad thing now that I think about it, this will probably be his only claim to fame. Even if The Simpsons goes off the air, it will be decades before Apu is just a fuzzy memory. I don't see him being a big-time actor so his career will probably be documentaries like this and SJW virtue signaling.

Sometimes people don't think of the big picture.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Hayes was forced to quit because his church pressured him into it. Poor guy was just so brainwashed by them.

It was really nice that even in the episode itself, Matt and Trey made it clear they held no ill will towards Hayes and instead put the blame fully on “the fruity little club for scrambling his brains”.

 

[Trilby]

It was really nice that even in the episode itself, Matt and Trey made it clear they held no ill will towards Hayes and instead put the blame fully on “the fruity little club for scrambling his brains”.

Glad they did.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Funny when I heard about this in one tab in another one I was reading about the total tide of human misary and suffering with the Rohingya at the moment. Puts a lot of context on making a film dedicated to a low brow joke.
I find it very hard to sympethize with anyone here they're all pretty rich, entreched and privalidged, Kal penns asshurt frankly amuses considering his position during Obama's terms in office.
The documentry doesnt look like a very good documentry, a good documentry (grizzly man) will stimulate discussion and challange the audience, I don't really see this doing that. It's mostly re-affirming middle class desires to gentrify the darker more subversive aspects of humor while promoting the idea of the left as the pc police and minorities as buzzkills to the right. Black fish this isnt, it isnt even an bowling for columbine. The fact Hari spends time trying to troubleshoot possible objections because he doesnt want to audience to disagree and doesnt trust the audience to get the idea's he wants to convey buries this movie for me.

Nothing will be improved by this and it may potentially make things worse...not in the least because him and pretty much every major Indian American actor with a twitter just let trolls know it doesnt take very much to upset then.

I havnt even had to comment on the actual arguement that's how bad this looks. I'll try and watch it and see what I think.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

Apu is probably the most fleshed out character on the show outside of the Simpsons themselves. He also doesn't even come close to being the most offensive example of an Indian character in a franchise I love.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Hell, Gil offends me more and I'm pretty sure he isn't even a stereotype.

 

[cypocryphy]

White guys have it worse when you consider that Jason, Freddy Krueger, Micheal Myers, and Leatherface are all white. Compare them to a friendly convenience store owner.

 

[DefunctChip]

I'm surprised this thread doesn't yet have Hank Azaria's apology and admittance of 'considering the film's message about the character for further depictions'...and Hari's subsequent complete fucking flipout.

From Azaria

I think the documentary made some really interesting points, and it gave us a lot at The Simpsons to think about, and we really are thinking about it. And definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it – by any character or vocal performance – it’s really upsetting that that was offensive or hurtful to anybody. And I think it’s an important conversation, and one definitely worth having, so thanks for asking. … We’re just really thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.
http://splitsider.com/2017/12/hank-...lem-with-apu-documentary-its-a-lot-to-digest/
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The film maker's response?

Apu doesn’t “offend” me, he “insults” me...and my community. I’m an adult with bigger things to deal with. My film was meant to tell you to go fuck yourself & discuss why I want you to go fuck yourself & how we can prevent future incidents of people wishing others “self-fuckery.”
https://twitter.com/harikondabolu/status/937465145659404290?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
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So basically Apu's voice actor publicly and politely addressed the movie in a manner that implied there would be further discussion and consideration of the issue within The Simpsons cast and crew...and the creator of this poor excuse for a documentary shot back with an eloquent "I'M A BIG BOY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU". Whether or not Apu is offensive or not is kinda second banana to how much of a manchild the filmmaker is, to be honest.

 

[Xerxes IX]

"I'M A BIG BOY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU".

This is the only way the blue checkmark salt-left knows how to communicate. Any other response, like "sure we can talk about why this is a harmful stereotype to me as an Indian person and what we can do about it", would get him unverified and blacklisted for spreading hate speech.

 

[ZehnBoat]

The Problem With Apu

lemme fix that

The Problem With u

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

I'm surprised this thread doesn't yet have Hank Azaria's apology and admittance of 'considering the film's message about the character for further depictions'...and Hari's subsequent complete fucking flipout.

From Azaria

I think the documentary made some really interesting points, and it gave us a lot at The Simpsons to think about, and we really are thinking about it. And definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it – by any character or vocal performance – it’s really upsetting that that was offensive or hurtful to anybody. And I think it’s an important conversation, and one definitely worth having, so thanks for asking. … We’re just really thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.
http://splitsider.com/2017/12/hank-...lem-with-apu-documentary-its-a-lot-to-digest/
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The film maker's response?

Apu doesn’t “offend” me, he “insults” me...and my community. I’m an adult with bigger things to deal with. My film was meant to tell you to go fuck yourself & discuss why I want you to go fuck yourself & how we can prevent future incidents of people wishing others “self-fuckery.”
https://twitter.com/harikondabolu/status/937465145659404290?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
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So basically Apu's voice actor publicly and politely addressed the movie in a manner that implied there would be further discussion and consideration of the issue within The Simpsons cast and crew...and the creator of this poor excuse for a documentary shot back with an eloquent "I'M A BIG BOY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU". Whether or not Apu is offensive or not is kinda second banana to how much of a manchild the filmmaker is, to be honest.

What a designated shitty person.

 

[Emperor Julian]

People are tearing him a new asshole on twitter for his Prickly-Wicklies about the reply.

Looking at that bitchfit over a polite considered reply combined with the SJW vibe he's giving out and Hari seems like a bit of a lolcow, does anyone know much about him and is he threadworthy?

Edit-holy shit this faggots a 14 year old white chick.

 

[Trilby]

This is the only way the blue checkmark salt-left knows how to communicate. Any other response, like "sure we can talk about why this is a harmful stereotype to me as an Indian person and what we can do about it", would get him unverified and blacklisted for spreading hate speech.

This didn't surprise me at all he acts like this. Even when you're trying to be nice, it's never going to work. It sounds like he wants Apu off this show immediately, probably replaced with this guy...

 

[Hummingbird]

This didn't surprise me at all he acts like this. Even when you're trying to be nice, it's never going to work. It sounds like he wants Apu off this show immediately, probably replaced with this guy...

Or a character that will pretty much be him.

 

[MysticMisty]

I'm surprised this thread doesn't yet have Hank Azaria's apology and admittance of 'considering the film's message about the character for further depictions'...and Hari's subsequent complete fucking flipout.

From Azaria

I think the documentary made some really interesting points, and it gave us a lot at The Simpsons to think about, and we really are thinking about it. And definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it – by any character or vocal performance – it’s really upsetting that that was offensive or hurtful to anybody. And I think it’s an important conversation, and one definitely worth having, so thanks for asking. … We’re just really thinking about it. It’s a lot to digest.
http://splitsider.com/2017/12/hank-...lem-with-apu-documentary-its-a-lot-to-digest/
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The film maker's response?

Apu doesn’t “offend” me, he “insults” me...and my community. I’m an adult with bigger things to deal with. My film was meant to tell you to go fuck yourself & discuss why I want you to go fuck yourself & how we can prevent future incidents of people wishing others “self-fuckery.”
https://twitter.com/harikondabolu/status/937465145659404290?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
​

So basically Apu's voice actor publicly and politely addressed the movie in a manner that implied there would be further discussion and consideration of the issue within The Simpsons cast and crew...and the creator of this poor excuse for a documentary shot back with an eloquent "I'M A BIG BOY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU". Whether or not Apu is offensive or not is kinda second banana to how much of a manchild the filmmaker is, to be honest.

I hope they see this response and throw any considerations right out the window.

 

[Trilby]

I hope they see this response and throw any considerations right out the window.

Hopefully. Reminded Hank had discussed this in an interview with the Television Academy Foundation some years back.