The Public School System... - in America or UK, wherever, how would you reconstruct it?

[DrunkJoe]

How do you measure who is a good teacher though? All we really have is standardized tests, and when the pressure increases it just makes teachers cheat on behalf of students. Dismantling the union might help or hurt, cant say for sure until a better measurement is in place.

Unions in service based areas don't reward execellence. They pretty much keep everything to a certian lower standard. The measure of importance is time served instead of actual compentence and skill. There was a story years ago about the Californian teacher of the year getting laid off. That is pretty dumb, they literally said your the best in the State but since you havent been here long here is the door. So we are not rewarding the good teachers, bad ones who get enough time in are hard to get rid of. As a system that is not very conductive to breed a lot of success. There are still truly great teachers out there but their talents are not properly rewarded.

 

[Cuck Shack]

Since the Articles & News thread about one school's lunacy sparked a long discussion about public school, I figured that the topic could use its own thread. So what complete nonsense did you, people you know, or the kids these days go through in public school?

Did your teacher attempt to indoctrinate you politically? Did you see someone piss themself because they weren't allowed to go to the bathroom? Suspended for making a gun gesture with their hands? Assaulted by gigantic tards roaming the halls? As for the current day, what do you think about very young children being taught about trannies? What about kids getting fatter and wrongly diagnosed with mental disorders because of recess cuts and pushing six year olds to do algebra?

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Lol, school is for fags.

 

[DeadFish]

Dismantle them. No more schools.

 

[Orion Balls]

The public school system... Is entirely dependant upon its elementary level studies. When High School teachers have to take time to retrain basic English and Mathematical skills, the system gets fucked.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Since the Articles & News thread about one school's lunacy sparked a long discussion about public school, I figured that the topic could use its own thread. So what complete nonsense did you, people you know, or the kids these days go through in public school?

Did your teacher attempt to indoctrinate you politically? Did you see someone piss themself because they weren't allowed to go to the bathroom? Suspended for making a gun gesture with their hands? Assaulted by gigantic tards roaming the halls? As for the current day, what do you think about very young children being taught about trannies? What about kids getting fatter and wrongly diagnosed with mental disorders because of recess cuts and pushing six year olds to do algebra?

English class did a whole thing about being pro-gun control and even promoting Jim Jeffries' shitty stand-up surrounding it around the time of the Parkland shooting.

 

[Montalbane]

Get parents to care, stop pretending college is the only way to live a good life.
Get the trannies and pedos out.
Stop using standardized tests as a measure for everything.

 

[B2_Spirit]

At this point I'd just encourage people to homeschool.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Honestly I don't think the public school system can be saved. It's basically a fucking prison for people who did nothing wrong. Not to mention they punish bullied kids for defending themselves so, fuck 'em.

The Prussian model, one size fits all system is outdated and doesn't do shit to prepare anyone for life, nor a post-industrial economy. Smart kids are lumped in with retards and dumb obnoxious ones who don't want to learn take away from the ones who do.

The problem is more prevalent in American inner city schools but those fuckers don't wanna learn anyway. Enjoy your "education" while you can, because you're gonna be hopping in and out of institutions for the rest of your life after that.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

A budget for the school in my district is broken down in the following ways - 50% athletics, 25% Special Ed, and the rest for actual academics lol. I'm not making this up.

Public school education is what you make of it. An intellectually curious kid will get something out of the experience, possibly even transfer schools to a place with more advanced classes. An idiot is gonna idiot lol. The real point of public school everyone seems to be missing is the social aspect. Navigating professionalism (classes) with friends and social circles, learning that balance and patience, that all takes place at public schools, and simply cannot be replicated in home schooling.

And the school day is too long!! Omg 8 fucking hour days? That's insane for a young person. 5 hours a day with a one hour lunch break and then E.C.s and jobs encouraged for the free afternoons.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Bring back the Tripartite System. Comprehensives do a good enough job at teaching everyone their ABCs, 123s and other shit but it tends to be at the cost of the more intellectually minded kids who would previously go to grammar schools, technical schools have the obvious benefit of letting you better nurture and grow your own native pool of people in the STEM field as well as again letting the more intellectually minded be separated from the common plebs.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

I wouldn't, school is a stupid way to teach the vast majority of subjects and it's absurd to be leaving your children with strangers for the vast majority of their childhood. Kids should just be put together, and taught about whatever interests them, until they hit puberty at which point the men can go into some line of work, become someone's apprentice or continue studying whatever it is that interests them with whoever else is interested.

 

[rules of nature]

A budget for the school in my district is broken down in the following ways - 50% athletics, 25% Special Ed, and the rest for actual academics lol. I'm not making this up.

Public school education is what you make of it. An intellectually curious kid will get something out of the experience, possibly even transfer schools to a place with more advanced classes. An idiot is gonna idiot lol. The real point of public school everyone seems to be missing is the social aspect. Navigating professionalism (classes) with friends and social circles, learning that balance and patience, that all takes place at public schools, and simply cannot be replicated in home schooling.

And the school day is too long!! Omg 8 fucking hour days? That's insane for a young person. 5 hours a day with a one hour lunch break and then E.C.s and jobs encouraged for the free afternoons.

When I was born my parents moved into a house with a lot of schools within walking distance. By the time I was ready to start kindergarten the city shut down all those schools in favor of frfr we bussin all dem kids to one giant campus in the middle of nowhere. Looking back at it, all the dumb fucking politicians who fucked me out out of a better education because they could save money by just shutting down all the schools.

Every neighborhood had an elementary, middle, and high school, the reason my parents moved to the town i grew up in was precisely because of the schools, because they were in walking distance of the house they bought. And when they shut the schools down, they couldn't move. I had to get bussed an hour each way every day to receive an improper education since the school was so big there was no way teachers could spend enough time with individual students.

And you want to know what the funniest part of all of this is? It took two decades for the town to recover from the schools closing down, entire neighborhoods died, families moved closer to the new school, the population declined, you know what happened? They shut down the new school too! They replaced it with a fucking charter school only a couple years after I left. We had manufacturing businesses leave because of it, section 8 fucking left, they demolished perfectly good schools two times in my life because they wanted to hire less teachers and have them teach more kids. This wasn't a small town, at least 200 kids were in my grade when I graduated. My state is fucking retarded and thinks shutting down schools is a good idea.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

When I was born my parents moved into a house with a lot of schools within walking distance. By the time I was ready to start kindergarten the city shut down all those schools in favor of frfr we bussin all dem kids to one giant campus in the middle of nowhere. Looking back at it, all the dumb fucking politicians who fucked me out out of a better education because they could save money by just shutting down all the schools.

Every neighborhood had an elementary, middle, and high school, the reason my parents moved to the town i grew up in was precisely because of the schools, because they were in walking distance of the house they bought. And when they shut the schools down, they couldn't move. I had to get bussed an hour each way every day to receive an improper education since the school was so big there was no way teachers could spend enough time with individual students.

And you want to know what the funniest part of all of this is? It took two decades for the town to recover from the schools closing down, entire neighborhoods died, families moved closer to the new school, the population declined, you know what happened? They shut down the new school too! They replaced it with a fucking charter school only a couple years after I left. We had manufacturing businesses leave because of it, section 8 fucking left, they demolished perfectly good schools two times in my life because they wanted to hire less teachers and have them teach more kids. This wasn't a small town, at least 200 kids were in my grade when I graduated. My state is fucking retarded and thinks shutting down schools is a good idea.

Oh for sure. The big city closest to me ended accreditation for high schools. Wanna know what that means? When you graduate you don't get a diploma. You have to take your GED exam instead. Tons of beautiful historical schools have become abandoned buildings for crust punks and schizos, parents are leaving the city en masse, and an entire kid's school career amounts to a hill of beans cause they probably don't even know they need to get their GED to do pretty much anything. Lol society is a trip.

 

[Puff]

Abolish them. Seriously. They're unfit for purpose and at least in America should have always been a last resort if you can't afford private school or don't have time to homeschool.
If you're going to keep them, make compulsory schooling only until like.... 8th grade? Just get the basic skills and a quick brush over of western civ. We're talking math up to basic algebra, reading, writing, and the highlights of history.
If you NEED to keep high school, make it a tracked system where most (use aptitude not IQ, but generally anyone under 120 IQ) go to vocational/skills based training, some do higher education that's fairly specific to a particular field, and a tiny minority who have money to burn and the brains for it do the "liberal arts education" where you learn a bit of everything and throw in some philosophy.