The real reason California keeps catching on fire

The Reaper said:
That's not true my socialist friends told me if you compare California to the rest of the US it has the highest GDP, is extremely prosperous, and could secede successfully unlike that evil backwards state Texas.

Why ever would they lie to me?
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California is #5 or so, but New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Delaware are all higher. Your friend is retarded.
 
Wasn't it because they don't have anybody cutting down the trees in a way that makes it hard for fires to spread (like a checkerboard pattern)?
 
Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
California is #5 or so, but New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Delaware are all higher. Your friend is exceptional.
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It was a bit of sarcasm, but at one point I think someone I knew said that if they seceded their GDP would skyrocket because they were hoisting the economies of other states. If they didn't have to it just be far superior to the rest of the US.

I've met some very exceptional people.
 
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??? said:
I've been a lot of places in the USA, including California.

In Kentucky, there is a 25 to 50 foot gap on either side of power lines (the big metal ones that look like giant erector sets). There's some brush underneath, but it's cut every year or two. There's basically no way a tree could fall on a line and catch fire.

In California there is no gap, trees grow right up to the power lines, and under them in some cases.

Kentucky is also very lax relative to California regarding air pollution. Wood stoves are legal in the former, but heavily regulated in the latter. IIRC you can only burn pellet stoves in California. Anyways, there's no incentive for normal people to cut down or chop up deadwood and fallen trees on their property or public property in California, so it accumulates.

California also didn't let you thin forests of trees below a certain radius - even private property - so forests are clogged with too much close growing and therefore unhealthy (and constantly dying) small trees.

In Ohio we would thin forests so valuable woods had room and light enough to grow, for lumber and firewood. Harvesting private lots of lumber in California is so burdensome with regulations that only big corporations can afford to do it.

California has laws that create incentives for power companies to spend money on green energy shit that is statistically insignificant in regards to power produced when/where it is needed, and in total. Most providers aren't dumb enough to chase these subsidies over essential maintenance, but PG&E - being chock full of people who are employed solely due to ethnic nepotism, sex (both meanings), and politics - chases these short-term gains over long term profits.

It's doubly ironic because the people the left claims are toothless inbred backwards hillbillies understand cause and effect better than those hyper-intelligent enlightened Buddhists who KNOW better than the rest of us... yet those geniuses can't do basic maintenance to prevent catastrophic loss of life and property.

tl;dr

Mother Gaia worshippers make the laws in Commiefornia without regard to long-term consequences or nth order effects.
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In Australia, our powerlines (the big ones you're referring to) have a 200-300 yard wide gap underneath them. I was born where all the power stations are, and when there's 8-10 lines running parallel, you might see a mile wide clear cut area running for a hundred miles, because we know our trees will ignite just from friction in high winds. The corridors are either regularly mowed, or more often have cattle grazing to keep the grass down. The only time I've ever heard of a fallen powerline starting a fire is in suburban areas.
 
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??? said:
I've been a lot of places in the USA, including California.

In Kentucky, there is a 25 to 50 foot gap on either side of power lines (the big metal ones that look like giant erector sets). There's some brush underneath, but it's cut every year or two. There's basically no way a tree could fall on a line and catch fire.

In California there is no gap, trees grow right up to the power lines, and under them in some cases.

Kentucky is also very lax relative to California regarding air pollution. Wood stoves are legal in the former, but heavily regulated in the latter. IIRC you can only burn pellet stoves in California. Anyways, there's no incentive for normal people to cut down or chop up deadwood and fallen trees on their property or public property in California, so it accumulates.

California also didn't let you thin forests of trees below a certain radius - even private property - so forests are clogged with too much close growing and therefore unhealthy (and constantly dying) small trees.

In Ohio we would thin forests so valuable woods had room and light enough to grow, for lumber and firewood. Harvesting private lots of lumber in California is so burdensome with regulations that only big corporations can afford to do it.

California has laws that create incentives for power companies to spend money on green energy shit that is statistically insignificant in regards to power produced when/where it is needed, and in total. Most providers aren't dumb enough to chase these subsidies over essential maintenance, but PG&E - being chock full of people who are employed solely due to ethnic nepotism, sex (both meanings), and politics - chases these short-term gains over long term profits.

It's doubly ironic because the people the left claims are toothless inbred backwards hillbillies understand cause and effect better than those hyper-intelligent enlightened Buddhists who KNOW better than the rest of us... yet those geniuses can't do basic maintenance to prevent catastrophic loss of life and property.

tl;dr

Mother Gaia worshippers make the laws in Commiefornia without regard to long-term consequences or nth order effects.
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Funny you should mention that, because I just got back from a trip that involved driving through both Kentucky and Ohio, and the cleared power lines were as common as in the Mother State. There was one especially lovely place in Kentucky that was a clusterfuck of six different cleared-line-areas intersecting at a power station.
 
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