🐱 The results of 'The Chris Chan Experiment' should horrify us all

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On the 5th of August 2021, Chris Chan, accused of incest with his 80-year-old mother, stood in court, stamped his feet and declared, “I’m famous on the internet”. While most readers will be familiar with the latest saga in Chris’ life, regarding allegations of sexual abuse against his obviously vulnerable mother, along with his claimed transgender identity, many may not be familiar with his background story. It is a story that should not get lost in all of this, as trans activists argue over pronouns, and others chalk it up as simply another example of an AGP male like Jonathan Yaniv behaving in a criminal or disturbing way.

The Chris Chan story is not so simple. In fact, it has very little to do with trans activism at all.

Before I begin, I want to be clear. The charges against Chris are abhorrent and this post is not in any way meant to justify or trivialise his behaviour. He now faces the grave consequences of his actions, and I hope the American justice system will see to it that he is dealt with appropriately and unable to abuse anyone else in the future. What we need to talk about, though, is how Chris got here.

Media outlets have alluded to Chris being probably the most documented person online. This is a fair assessment; many commentators point to a 60-part documentary, available on YouTube, entitled Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History. Sadly, though, many journalists reporting on the case have not watched these videos themselves, meaning they’re missing a complete understanding of the story too.

The documentary shows how for many years Chris has been subjected to a relentless slew of online trolling and manipulation from members of internet forums such as Something Awful and Kiwi Farms. This has included being goaded into performing and documenting a lot of extremely inappropriate behaviour. I’m not going to go into the details of this here. Rose of Dawn’s excellent video is a good primer for those who don’t have the time to sit through almost two full days of content. What is obvious from the videos is that Chris is a mentally ill man, with severe autism, who has been manipulated by online bullies to the point that he no longer has a grip on reality. It is a damning indictment of mental healthcare in the US and the toxicity that comes with anonymous online trolling.

What concerns me most, having also listened to the recording of Chris allegedly confessing to the incest with his mother, is that some of these trolls, who admit in the recording to having been in his life for years, were aware of this abuse and did nothing. Instead, they saw this as just another sensational story to gain clicks online and to ridicule and humiliate Chris and his mother. They are not heroes. Heroes, or even decent people, would have taken this straight to the relevant authorities, not post it on YouTube.

Over the course of the recording, they encourage Chris, even at one point saying “Wow, Barbara!”, when Chris claims his mother made the first move, and telling him it’s “good”, when he describes his first sexual contact with his mother. These people should be brought to justice too. I would hope that most people would agree that Chris should be dealt with seriously, but so should any person who would encourage someone with clear mental disabilities to sexually abuse another person with mental disabilities. This is the part of the story that mainstream media and other news outlets are missing.

Should we be worried that trans activism may shield people like Chris and even insist that they are placed in situations, such as hospital wards and prisons, where they may have access to vulnerable women? Absolutely. But we should also condemn the trolls who treated his mental deterioration as a joke and who did nothing to prevent or stop the sexual abuse of an 80-year-old woman with dementia. We should also be horrified that mental healthcare and social support, in one of the wealthiest nations in the world, has failed so miserably.

Sometimes there are bigger stories to tell than just “trans activist does another awful thing”. The Chris Chan story is one of those occasions. I sincerely hope that Chris continues to be detained appropriately in a male jail while awaiting trial, both to protect any future potential victims of abuse but also to cease any further manipulation or bullying of himself by bad actors. The sagas are over, and many people should feel ashamed, while the rest of us have lessons to learn about the nature of life online and the dangers it brings.
 
thing and one thing only: don't live your life on the Internet. Chris spent almost 4 years fighting trolls, dating 13 year old boys pretending to be women, and trying to turn his OC donut steal creation into a mega franchise on the Internet and look where it got him. His garbage dump of a house became a mecca for weens, his financial problems became common knowledge, and his latest arrest was followed by thousands of people on the Internet similar to the OJ arrest. Had Chris walked away at any point in the past 10-15 years you wouldn't have Tucker Carlson talking about him, falsely, going to a women's prison for raping his elderly mother. The fact that so many people want to live their lives on the Internet chasing easy fame and clicks shows just how important the story of Chris really is.
Tucker didn't say Chris was going to a women's prison. He basically said Chris would be going to a women's prison if he had hypothetically committed his crimes in California.
 
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This is actually one of the better and more informed articles about the situation. The only glaring omission is that the trolls that may have convinced him to fuck his mother are long time Redditors.
 
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People need to stop wagging the finger at the "trolls" and Kiwi Farms and realize even high-functioning autistic people like Chris are responsible for their actions. Chris would've done bad shit regardless of people like BlueSpike and the Troon squad, albeit maybe to a smaller degree.
Pretty much all of SocJus is about fools not being responsible for the consequences of their foolish actions.
 
Is this just a softening of language to pretend that a troon did not rape his mom?
Innocent until proven guilty.
There’s obviously a lot of damning evidence, and I think anyone actually following this knows he did it, but legally, he is still accused until convicted.

And considering how often people are destroyed in the court of public opinion before going on to be acquitted, it’s still important to remember.
 
"What is obvious from the videos is that Chris is a mentally ill man, with severe autism, who has been manipulated by online bullies..."

What's not obvious (but should be) is that the whole thing with Chris is that all the trolling could've stopped at the beginning if he wasn't such a senseless dickhead. Even before the trolls, he was getting kicked out of the mall, creeping out girls, getting expelled from community college. He drew nudes of his friend and the dean of the college he was at without troll influence. People need to stop wagging the finger at the "trolls" and Kiwi Farms and realize even high-functioning autistic people like Chris are responsible for their actions. Chris would've done bad shit regardless of people like BlueSpike and the Troon squad, albeit maybe to a smaller degree.
His mother abusing the shit out of him might have also contributed to his behavior.

"Might" being the operative word here.
 
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Something Graham posted in the comments:



Wasn't this what the Lolcow Wiki was for? Whatever happened to that site? He makes a good point that while this site does contain useful information, too many people are put off by the name alone and reflexively avoid it. Having an external host of information like the Lolcow Wiki was would be a good idea.
If us speds had the wherewithall to tolerate regular websites that moderate hate speech we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't recognize each other as fam to do the autistic work done here.

Fuck that. Who wants to spend hours and hours compiling information in normie tone when we can be here laughing our asses off at cows and occasionally exposing the truly vile. I log in to laugh, and I do, heartily everyday.

Fuck normal people. They have the whole goddamn internet where they can exist and feel "safe". This place shouldn't be for them. It is the dark corner of the room where the weird kids hang out and if people want to benefit from our knowledge they have to tolerate the culture.

We should not bend to appease the woke or even the woke lite. We shouldn't lift a finger to help them continue to censor what people can say or think.
 
TL;DR it’s the fault of DANG DIRTY TROLLS and ONLINE TOXICITY Chris raped his mom. Glinner should be easier to like, considering he’s gone after some of the worst people we have the displeasure of sharing a civilization with, but he will unfortunately always be a dumb fat faggot whose brain was broken by Gamergate.
No one wanted to make articles lol. We just want to comment and say “nigger”.
If the anti-trans cause is so important to courageous keyboard warrior Glinner, he should be able to brave some wrongthink and a few no-no words in pursuit of it.

Why should a large platform kowtow to his tiny faction’s progressive speech codes? Does he not realize that his material is also considered hate speech, and TPTB will come for him next no matter how good his optics are?
 
The saga of Chris should teach you one thing and one thing only: don't live your life on the Internet. Chris spent almost 4 years fighting trolls, dating 13 year old boys pretending to be women, and trying to turn his OC donut steal creation into a mega franchise on the Internet and look where it got him. His garbage dump of a house became a mecca for weens, his financial problems became common knowledge, and his latest arrest was followed by thousands of people on the Internet similar to the OJ arrest. Had Chris walked away at any point in the past 10-15 years you wouldn't have Tucker Carlson talking about him, falsely, going to a women's prison for raping his elderly mother. The fact that so many people want to live their lives on the Internet chasing easy fame and clicks shows just how important the story of Chris really is.
One thing is for certain: this is a case that's going to be referenced for decades. Maybe it will come to represent the heydays of the wild west of the internet before we were all forced to live in the pods and eat the bugs and own nothing? It's a case you can make so many kinds of arguments for:

Mental health and the internet. Stand Alone Complex. Group coercion. Memes. Truman Show. Etcetera and etcetera and etcetera.

There will be books referencing this, there WILL be a movie at some point, and perhaps a Law & Order episode is already in the works?
 
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Didn't read this, but if the author is expecting people to learn from their mistakes, then they've never read history.
 
"Kiwifarms did it!," the article.

I mean, sure. Some people here are assholes and abused a mentally ill person, but we aren't anybody's nanny, neither Chris' or the trolls'. He is not a normal person and he shouldn't be online. Whenever something like this happens, I ask people this: if you had a mentally challenged kid, would you let them out to wander on their own, knowing they can't really tell right from wrong, nor can they really understand the consequences of their actions? If the answer is obviously "no", why would you let a mentally unstable person alone online then? It's the same fucking thing.

but no really I have no idea who the fuck this person as and I apologize for getting overexcited
Glinner (real name Graham Linehan) is a tv personality who is such a male feminist that he's basically the™ Male TERF in command.
 
I never followed the Chris Chan stuff but how in god's name are people on the internet supposed to keep a retard from being retarded? Seems like Chris was borderline feral, never trained in the ways of society, could never be contained and generally tard raged through his life. Chris needed to be treated like an SCP for the good of humanity.

He needed IRL tard wrangling. But his father died and his mother wasn't really all that good of a mother (even before any possible dementia).
 
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Wasn't this what the Lolcow Wiki was for? Whatever happened to that site? He makes a good point that while this site does contain useful information, too many people are put off by the name alone and reflexively avoid it.
I saw that comment and would have replied to it had the site not required a £5 per month subscription to do so. I disagree. If you made a sanitised version of the Farms with "hatespeech" banned, the very first thing that would happen would be that it would be swarmed by new sign-ups to subvert and wreck it. Organized, no less. The Farms is an island of Free Speech and the reason for this is the thin, shell-like protection of how abhorrent it is to the same people that would ban it. SJW's rely on authority. Their entire modus operandi is about making you look bad to authority and getting authority to censure and punish you. Given them a chance to invoke that on you and they will. What keeps them off is that the farms is a site where you can use any racial epithet, any sexist term and they would never be caught dead here. And if they did show up they would be mocked without mercy and unable to call down moderators for protection. Make a sanitised version of the farms and any criticism of their protected classes would be swamped with reports and mealy-mouthed replies. Ironically, you would get more real racism and sexism and such on a sanitised site than you do on the actual Farms where people can just be themselves not some socially assigned identity.

Whilst it does prevent some people coming here, we gain more than we lose from that. And the Farms is an excellent source of information but we can get that out to other sources our own way. The Farms was created to laugh at crazy and awful people (with a strict non-interventionist policy), not as a clearing house for free speech information. The fact that it has become the latter is because the former enables it.

Glinner should make an account here if he hasn't already.
 
I'm pretty sure what Linehan means by "hate speech" on Kiwifarms is his thread.
 
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