The Root of Self Loathing/Hatred

[Drums Into Space]

I’ve often wondered if this is a nature or nurture attribute. I imagine like most things it’s a mix of both. Often in reading cow threads I’ll see a lot of cows either hate themselves to the core or almost to the point of parody praise themselves constantly. Maybe it’s the brains way of coping with imperfections or maybe a defense mechanism. Any thoughts?

 

[CannibalBunny]

I think it can be a bit of both. Parents can be involved in conflict or family taboos can result in a variety of mental states in children growing up, one of them being self loathing. A person who blames themselves for an event happening during their childhood often is conditioned to think like that their entire life, or weaker minded people who are bullied and taken advantage of through most of their development (childhood, teenage years..). However, I think some societies can be bad juju with people still.
Take super introverted societies, Japan for example, where it is culturally appropriate to keep to yourself and not cause any scene. This can sometimes cause people to feel insignificant if they have an issue and nobody to speak to, and can explain a lot of the countries suicide statistics. People there do not say 'thank you' when complimented, they usually say 'No, I'm not' and are highly modest.
In another light, take a country like Iran or a lot of middle eastern areas where the population is almost 100% muslim. Extremist activities can lead women and female children to feel vulnerable and take on self loathing, but I don't think this can apply to many cows because not many, if any, are from extremist muslim areas lol

The fat fucks can be explained easy tho (inb4 ambylinnys), they're just miserable because they're the size of a car and are aware of it.

 

[shameful existence]

I think much of it comes from not fulfilling one's own potential and being fully aware of it. Which is why self-hatred is more common in somewhat intelligent people. When you're too dumb to be self-aware, you're immune to it or at least your self-hatred is more vague and not the sharp, super destructive kind.

 

[johnsinslot]

To avoid some dumbass Philosophy based answer that takes an hour to type, shameful basically hit the nail on the head.
The true epitome of failure, is knowing you’ve recognized the goal/finish line, and still collapsing 20 feet before it.

from not fulfilling one's own potential and being fully aware of it. Which is why self-hatred is more common in somewhat intelligent people. When you're too dumb to be self-aware, you're immune to it or at least your self-hatred is more vague and not the sharp,

Also, I suppose being into any dm degenerate shit would fuel it as well, and save for a couple objective degenerate hobbies.
It’s pretty subjective, meh.

 

[Sandraker]

It can be seen as both but in more recent years it leans towards more nature if we're going off cows.

Adolescents can have a rocky start, but if they have a good community to fall back on at least they can learn some life lessons naturally even if its a few fuck ups that comes with "growing up fast"

It all goes to shit when you add social media to the mix. The self hating egotist will slither their way online constantly seeking validation on even the smallest of achievements, while the self hating confused soul will try their hardest to fit in somewhere and all that does is lead them to the hugbox of their choice.

Spin the wheel and pick your category of gaming/woke/pol/porn/troonism and you'll see the same types of people drowning in their vices, cause self reflecting would be too much of a painful truth so they just dive deeper until we have someone new to laugh when they have their inevitable sperging fit.

 

[Drums Into Space]

It all goes to shit when you add social media to the mix.

You couldn’t be more right. I look at this younger generation especially the post 9/11 kids and I can’t help but feel bad for them. An entire generation of western kids destroyed by apps and constant grooming. I fear for the future my kids will grow up in if I choose to stay in the west.

 

[Retired Junta Member]

I’ve often wondered if this is a nature or nurture attribute. I imagine like most things it’s a mix of both. Often in reading cow threads I’ll see a lot of cows either hate themselves to the core or almost to the point of parody praise themselves constantly. Maybe it’s the brains way of coping with imperfections or maybe a defense mechanism. Any thoughts?

Nurture, more likely. Trauma (even mild) usually does that to you (among many other things).

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

The short answer is that its both.

The long answer is that from what psychology can see you can put two people through similar circumstances and them both come out differently, which points to nature being involved, but we also know that certain things increase someone's chance of turning out a certain way. Examples include someone who is molested does end up having a greater chance of being a predator themselves, but you also people who got to the opposite extreme and won't even be around children out of how horrifying they find what happened to them. There's tons of others, but it boils down to nature and nurture both play a part.

 

[Noir drag freak]

It can be seen as both but in more recent years it leans towards more nature if we're going off cows.

Adolescents can have a rocky start, but if they have a good community to fall back on at least they can learn some life lessons naturally even if its a few fuck ups that comes with "growing up fast"

It all goes to shit when you add social media to the mix. The self hating egotist will slither their way online constantly seeking validation on even the smallest of achievements, while the self hating confused soul will try their hardest to fit in somewhere and all that does is lead them to the hugbox of their choice.

Spin the wheel and pick your category of gaming/woke/pol/porn/troonism and you'll see the same types of people drowning in their vices, cause self reflecting would be too much of a painful truth so they just dive deeper until we have someone new to laugh when they have their inevitable sperging fit.

I think that's easy to drown in self-hatred and loathing when it comes to self-reflection. I want to say that it's hopeless, because people aren't 100% victims or 100% villains. This is where compassion for yourself and others come in. It's naive to think this way. But if you realize that humans are a imperfect'child-like species that wish no harm or malicious , then people will probably find peace.

 

[stares at error messages]

Psychiatric disorder.

 

[L50LasPak]

Its not that complicated. When your flaws actually get in the way of living your life, you tend to resent that.

 

[BipolarPon]

Social media plays a big part.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

genes

 

[Rack Of CDs]

I'd say self-hatred is a product of both nature and nuture. However, if you want to live a fulfilling and happy life, you need to wade into that self-hatred and learn to deal with it. I don't think struggling with it should be viewed as your entire character though. While you may strive to fix your self-esteem, others may struggle with a different problem that you've never seen as an issue. Everyone has their own problems and it doesn't make you less of a person to identify an issue you have while taking steps to fix it.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

They're outsiders. Plain and simple. Many wanted to join society but were never invited in due to whatever impairment they have. Then they get the chip on their shoulders, hate themselves, hate the rest of society and gradually slide down the rabbit hole. Some may troon out or chimp out or whatever but it really doesn't fix anything.

 

[Cool Dog]

There's the self-hatred from having a shitty lot in life (born porn, born in the thirdworld, born in a broken home, born handicapped, born swedish, etc) and there's the self-hatred of being a useless shit who failed at life even if you got everything served in a silver platter

Lolcows fall almost squarely in the latter category but almost always deny having any responsability for their situation, its always somebody else: mom, dad, SOCIETY, trolls, 4chins, those fucking kiwis, etc

 

[The Great Chandler]

To pull a quote from Fred Rogers:

"Part of the problem with the word 'disabilities' is that it immediately suggests an inability to see or hear or walk or do other things that many of us take for granted. But what of people who can't feel? Or talk about their feelings? Or manage their feelings in constructive ways? What of people who aren't able to form close and strong relationships? And people who cannot find fulfillment in their lives, or those who have lost hope, who live in disappointment and bitterness and find in life no joy, no love? These, it seems to me, are the real disabilities."

 

[Bad Gateway]

having such a bitchass daddy