The Roottrees are Dead - A game rant

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I think the game deserves a thread for being the worst mystery game I played in recent memory.
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The first thing you see on starting the game, I should have listened to my gut feeling an refunded it immediately
The game plays somewhat similarly to Obra Dinn (as the dev aggressively points out on Reddit), you track a family tree of heirs to a massive business conglomerate. After the tutorial you start off with an family tree and need to fill in in with each person's name, picture and occupation. Your main source of info is 2000's esque internet and a printer. The gameplay is basically you googling keywords to find more keywords until you get the relevant information.
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It looks like an imposing task, but notice that it's only 4 generations. It doesn't even compose a century
Here is the first criticism: The search system fucking sucks. Most glaringly putting name and surnames in the wrong order will fail the search despite not making any difference when searching online. The search itself is barebones, you don't combine keywords together like usual internet search which would have been an interesting complexity. It also feels overly extremely railroaded, with prominent people names somehow not getting hits, while things that appear too simplistic somehow do get, the best example is searching of a "Doctor Wilson" which somehow manages to filter the exact person you want despite being incredibly common. The game also never gives you misleading information (which you would expect from the internet) at most it explicitly states it as such, or lets you personally filter what is relevant or not. This railroading leads to the game being more frustrating than fun, you have to follow the breadcrumbs the dev laid out even when they feel disconnected to what you are actually trying to reach. There are also few cases where you can reach information in multiple ways.
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Even 30 years ago text parsers weren't as shitty
To add to it, the game itself is faulty for sometimes marking evidence you have as no longer necessary even when it is still crucial to progress, which is just shit design.
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Pretty sure no one would do this political suicide flier in 2000
Also, not directly an issue with the gameplay, while Obra Dinn has a justification for how you know all the relevant information about who you search for through the ship's crew log. In this game you magically know all the family members names despite not making any logical sense. Ditto the family tree is already built for you, removing the necessity of finding familal relations and making a lot of information being through the process of elimination. It is incredibly apparent when using family names to directly limit a specific family branch (why not at least separate given names and surnames in the input?). It's just lazy design of mimicking Obra Dinn without needing to actually explain how it is possible.

I also want to critic the game's art. Apparently, the game originally had AI art but this was shelved (officially due to not looking natural, probably it was because AI is now a boogieman in video game creator sphere) and instead it has absolutely atrocious mobile game level art.
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Yeah removing AI sure improved art quality
Now I'll get to why this is worst mystery game I played in years. In short there is no mystery. First, the assembly of the family tree is pointless. It is not that deep or wide and you still have living members who knows absolutely anyone in the family. It only takes long because how shit the search engine is and that you can't pick a phone. Second, and more importantly, a player would assume that the game would be about who caused the death of the title characters (and potentially more considering other people died in mysterious ways), probably as some way to take over the company but this actually doesn't happen, or alternatively, who are the current heirs of the company, as both are leading questions you have from the start and just general thoughts of a sane person approaching the game. But, in a way that probably involves the dev screaming "I SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATION" the real mystery is finding that the family had a gay offspring that was disinherited. It's a slap in the face for anyone who invested time thinking of the connection between the members as it ignores basically everything you had until this point to deliver a straight up lecture on the evils of homophobia.
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And then everyone clapped!
To put it into perspective, it's like reading an Poirot novel about a prominent businessman with a broken neck, only to discover after 200 pages he just fell a flight of stairs, and that actually the guy's great grandpa once said the word Nigger.

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* One of the women married into the family is a Torah Burner, which I find offensive. The context of her is a letter sending a shivah candle to another member, which I never heard of and I wonder if the writer never learned about Judaism or it's some Reform bullshit. The idea of Shivah is 7 days to visit after the funeral for condolences for the family. Which is arguably more important than attending the funeral.
* I find it funny that the official way to find the name of a mixed race member is find the stupidest name available.
 
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I'm actually in the middle of playing this, is that seriously the big twist regarding "Sam"?

I don't know, a bit soft on the game mainly because I like the title music and it's vaguely similar to Hypnospace Outlaw.
 
in a way that probably involves the dev screaming "I SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATION" the real mystery is finding that the family had a gay offspring that was disinherited. It's a slap in the face for anyone who invested time thinking of the connection between the members as it ignores basically everything you had until this point to deliver a straight up lecture on the evils of homophobia.
Man I love Gone Home.
 
I'm actually in the middle of playing this, is that seriously the big twist regarding "Sam"?
Nah, it's the original generation. If you get the original ad for the 5pieces you find an additional name that is removed in the later edition (replaced with Miracle), which is the initials of gay son, which if anything you would think is a way to make more people notice that action than simply keeping things as they were.
 
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Good review I wasn’t planning on playing it now I shall endeavor not to lol

Plz include pictures next time. They say more than any paragraph ever could.
 
The gameplay is basically you googling keywords to find more keywords until you get the relevant information.
Someone mentioned Gone Home but it is worth mentioning that mechanic sounds like it's taken directly from another critic beloved abortion: Her Story.

The twists from that one are identical twins separated at birth conspire to kill one's husband and you're actually playing as one of the two's daughter.

It's message is effectively "Women good, misogyny bad."
 
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Good review I wasn’t planning on playing it now I shall endeavor not to lol

Plz include pictures next time. They say more than any paragraph ever could.
Added images, you are right it feels more complete now.
That's your first mistake, OP. Should've dropped it as soon as you saw that
Tbf I googled the game only after finishing. It really reminds me the Hello Nighbour Twitter meme.

Honestly I'm amazed at how much nobody gives a shit about the game, I had to replay the ending from my save to get the images because very few youtubers give a shit enough to play it to the end.
 
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I read this topic thinking it was gonna be a rant about how a lot of great creators are dead or how a lot of modern devs are non-gamers who just got into the industry for money. Then I found out "The Roottrees are Dead" was an actual game.
 
Someone mentioned Gone Home but it is worth mentioning that mechanic sounds like it's taken directly from another critic beloved abortion: Her Story.

The twists from that one are identical twins separated at birth conspire to kill one's husband and you're actually playing as one of the two's daughter.

It's message is effectively "Women good, misogyny bad."
I liked Her Story, it was neat! :(

And the message was "women be crazy, innit"
 
So much of this is just agonisingly contrived. Like, I remember there being whole files that just exist for all the weird rules in the family naming conventions. I will forever be disappointed in this, because there's a bunch of things that actually add up to a way more interesting twist.

I figured out someone was excommunicated, couldn't figure out why. and i found myself constantly coming back to Miracle Roottree. The youngest one of the first generation, the one with poor health, and the one who, oddly, was allowed to be in the second generation pic as well.

And then I had a shocking idea. Something that'd be a genuinely amazing twist. Something that'd line up with everything odd about miracle and his treatment.

Something that'd totally justify needing to map out the family tree... to find an ingrown branch. I was convinced Miracle was some kind of fucked-up incest baby, because that'd be a legitimately amazing twist.

But instead it's just finding out the family tree had a single fruit. Big whoop.
 
I've finished it and yeah I very much ended up agreeing with you. By the ~30th family member the game just got boring to an insane degree and I think with how open ended the search tool is, plus how poorly implemented it is, you end up constantly running into the frustration of "well why is this TV series called Brother Trouble always bringing me back to TMS instead of actually telling me about the rest of the cast" or "why are there no images of this school play that I would have assumed would lead me to the information on some of the younger generation, instead of searching up some random email(which takes you to a website somehow!) which leads you to some shitty picture unscrambling puzzle which leads you to some of the younger generation, who all have the occupation "baby" "student(k-12)" or "student(college)"

Also I didn't get far in the AI art version, but the puzzle with Gem Wilson bothered me to no end because she strikes me as a college student and the oldest of the bunch, and as far as I could tell nothing actually revealed the order of the ages and I just had to guess.

The ending with E.C was pretty stupid and them going ACTUALLY THEY'RE TWINS when the non-AI art version has a seriously awful case of same face that it didn't even register, I just thought "oh this guy in the old generation image I could click on and I never used his image, oh well".
Hell I didn't even remember the fact that I read this thread and that you spoiled the "he's gay" part, I just saw "guardianship" and remembered the other lesbo later in the tree and picked that and the first name that came up with "E.C" and got it right. There was this entire smut book I missed that apparently alluded to the fact that there was a 6th roottree and he was a twin that I never stumbled on.
 
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