The Second Wave of Neoconservatism - A New Breed of Neocons

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We all know about the various hypocrisies and illogical statements of Ben "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" Shapiro, but what I believe is far more insidious are supposedly "conservative" or "right-wing" news outlets (like Reason magazine, the Daily Caller, or Prager U) or personalities or even politicians advocating for policies and actions that only serve to hurt Americans (or, at least, middle or working-class Americans), while corporations benefit immensely.

Take, for example, the 140 Republicans that voted for outsourcing high-skilled tech jobs to India and other parts of Asia:


There is also a lot of weirdly leftist social policy that some of these supposed "conservatives" want to adopt. For example, Republican Dan Crenshaw saying that it's a "good premise" to "punch Nazis".


I believe that we are witnessing the birth of a new type of neoconservatism, a Millennial, social media savvy, corporatist, and even worse type of neoconservatism than the type that dominated Republican politics during the aughts. This "second wave of neoconservatism" absolutely will sell out, and sell out the futures of the middle and working class, to mega-corporations and international financiers, all while playing with social media that they're defending American interests as they do so.
 
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Paleocons like you are fucking trash. It's basically saying you'll never work across party lines again because of the Democrat boogeyman promoting their agenda of pushing boy-love or something. You're doing the same fucking shit that the liberals are doing, saying they'll never work across party lines again. If that were to work, you'd need a one party system, retards. People just don't tow down to extreme partisanism, you have to actually work across the aisles to get shit done.
 
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Give Her The D said:
Paleocons like you are fucking trash. It's basically saying you'll never work across party lines again because of the Democrat boogeyman promoting their agenda of pushing boy-love or something. You're doing the same fucking shit that the liberals are doing, saying they'll never work across party lines again. If that were to work, you'd need a one party system, exceptional individuals. People just don't tow down to extreme partisanism, you have to actually work across the aisles to get shit done.
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Compromising to people who will never compromise to you whilst they spit in your face is nothing to be proud of.

As for the "one party system," that's what the Dems are planning for the US once they bring in enough immigrants and get them and their families voting.

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BlueSpark said:
Compromising to people who will never compromise to you whilst they spit in your face isn't is nothing to be proud of.
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Bullshit. Maybe if you didn't keep pandering to the lowest of the low, the liberals would stop calling you guys a bunch of neo-Nazi Jew haters and work with you.

Then again, paleo and anti-Semitism anti-Zionism go hand in hand.

BlueSpark said:
Compromising to people who will never compromise to you whilst they spit in your face isn't is nothing to be proud of.

As for the "one party system," that's what the Dems are planning for the US once they bring in enough immigrants and get them and their families voting.
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Maybe get the fucking wall built and kill who else is left then? You people are retarded.
 
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Iwasamwillbe said:
Yeah, so? Is there only "neocon" and "paleocon" now?

Even ignoring your absurd straw-man distortion which doesn't even relate to my post at all, you're also being a massive hypocrite right now. Weren't you talking about "not a-logging people just because you don't like their opinions?"

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You have to be trying really hard to a-log in 2019, and that isn't a-logging.
 
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Give Her The D said:
You have to be trying really hard to a-log in 2019, and that isn't a-logging.
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I disagree, especially with you basically calling me some kind of antisemite (when many members here would probably describe me as a Jew-lover), but I'm just going to leave that aside for now.

But still, I didn't know how you thought up any part of your first post, because it had nothing do with the OP.
 
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1) The only way you can find Reason to be conservative is if you're an idiot or you're far left.

2) I think a number of republicans and conservatives have finally gotten the long overdue wake up call that corporate America is not their friend anymore. Again, not all of them, but a number of them, and I believe that number will only grow.

3) ...your example of conservatives screwing over the "little guy" is that about half of House Republicans voted to have 140 jobs outsourced to India...First of all, Congress has no such power to direct a business to outsource their labor not unless you want Republicans to offer businesses here tax credits to not outsource. That alone deserves a dumb rating. Secondly, outsourcing of labor has been going on for decades now. 140 jobs being outsourced is nothing in the grand scheme of things especially with automatization.

4) What does any of the above have to do exactly with neo-conservatism anyway? Last I checked, neo-conservatives cared about pointless foreign adventures/fighting other people's wars for them. Not, talking about how punching Nazis isn't so bad.
 
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I think certain people here have different definitions of "neoconservative" than I do. I define "neoconservative" as "acting in the interest of corporations, especially in cases like foreign policy, domestic policy, and war, at the expense of middle or working-class Americans"

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They are libertarians. They want open boarders and small government, no foreign intervention. Neo-conservatism is all about state intervention. You are a fool.
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And yet they are still working in favor of the corporations at the expense of the American people, just in a different way than the old neocons, which was entirely my point.

verissimus said:
1) The only way you can find Reason to be conservative is if you're an idiot or you're far left.
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Good thing I don't find it as conservative.

verissimus said:
2) I think a number of republicans and conservatives have finally gotten the long overdue wake up call that corporate America is not their friend anymore. Again, not all of them, but a number of them, and I believe that number will only grow.
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And that's good. But I wasn't talking about them.


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3) ...your example of conservatives screwing over the "little guy" is that about half of House Republicans voted to have 140 jobs outsourced to India...First of all, Congress has no such power to direct a business to outsource their labor not unless you want Republicans to offer businesses here tax credits to not outsource. That alone deserves a dumb rating. Secondly, outsourcing of labor has been going on for decades now. 140 jobs being outsourced is nothing in the grand scheme of things especially with automatization.
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It wasn't 140 jobs being voted to be outsourced, it was 140 Republicans voting for the outsourcing of jobs. And if Congress has no such power to determine the flow of labor, then I would wonder why they are even voting on this.

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4) What does any of the above have to do exactly with neo-conservatism anyway? Last I checked, neo-conservatives cared about pointless foreign adventures/fighting other people's wars for them. Not, talking about how punching Nazis isn't so bad.
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That wasn't all neocons were for. They were for all that to aid corporations, in particulate the military industrial complex, at the expense of Americans. Just like this new wave of neocons are all for supporting corporations at the expense of Americans.
 
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