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Gonna be a falcon 9 launch tonight at 10:55 PM EDT from Vandenberg.


*edit* successful launch. The booster stage successfully landed, marking the 5th flight of this specific vessel.
 
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encase the spent material in concrete, put said concrete cask in the big hole in the fucking desert,
You forgot to mention how much more dangerous and consuming landfills are and how recycling is a bullshit scheme to save corporations a couple bucks and how 90% of recycled material winds up in the same landfills anyways, which again take up 100+ times the space and are an actual hazard and detrimental to the environment
 
I still can't believe all the cope about how the Artemis debacle went "as planned."

NASA dorks never learned to lead a moving target, and they missed, simple as. I'm glad the astronauts were lucky enough the rocket didn't fire on a windy day; they could have gotten stuck in the firmament.
 
Without a smidge of remorse, I would burn a million of us third world fucks for an hour of engine burn in space.

Edit: Not six million, that would be crazy :P
 
SpaceX launching a falcon Heavy in 2 hours. First one in 18 months.

Yep I’m watching the coverage now. I love the Falcon Heavy, I’m not sure why I like it so much. It would be cool if it had a role in crewed space flight for heavier payloads. But I suppose that’s what SLS is for…

Edit: Launch has been scrubbed at t-28. Probably due to weather but not confirmed.
 
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"Shortcut to Mars" sounds like the kind of thing they try in sci-fi before somehow entering a wormhole and being lost in space. Still nearly half a year of just travel time but I can't wait to see a Mars flyby with humans aboard :feels:
Im not entirely sure what's so novel about it that we would not have been aware of it before. Something do with the path asteroids take. All the articles talking about it are really unhelpful on that front.
 
Im not entirely sure what's so novel about it that we would not have been aware of it before. Something do with the path asteroids take. All the articles talking about it are really unhelpful on that front.
My understanding of it is they are tracking an asteroid that is taking a relatively natural orbit and trying to stay within a few degrees of the orbital plane that asteroid takes. It's kind of like finding a current in the ocean that helps push you along because the water is already going that direction. In this case it's less about space helping you move and more about not intersecting gravity in a way that you have to overcome, and since the asteroid is not changing orbit by speeding up or slowing down with an engine, it outlines an efficient orbit we can try.

I think they chose that asteroid in particular because it orbits both Earth and Mars when both planets are at their closest point and has done so for a long enough time that it proves the stability of its orbit and the efficiency of it as well.
 
It would be a real game changer to have a round trip of 150 days. Right now it was looking at 1 year. Cutting that in half makes things way more doable and cheap
 
Im not entirely sure what's so novel about it that we would not have been aware of it before. Something do with the path asteroids take. All the articles talking about it are really unhelpful on that front.
Well, the max efficiency hohmann transfer is what it is, but if you are willing to burn more fuel things get more interesting and travel times start to significantly shorten as well as there being more potential routes

Afaik starship is in a position where it can carry a relatively light load of people on a way more aggressive trajectory

We could imagine for hauling pure equipment it would be a full duration trip and also autonomous probably
 
Well, the max efficiency hohmann transfer is what it is, but if you are willing to burn more fuel things get more interesting and travel times start to significantly shorten as well as there being more potential routes

Afaik starship is in a position where it can carry a relatively light load of people on a way more aggressive trajectory

We could imagine for hauling pure equipment it would be a full duration trip and also autonomous probably
Ahh, so, its like in Kerbal Space Program. Where instead of worrying about where my target planet was on any given day I decide to launch, I instead worry about how many boosters I can strap to the command module.

The difference is not the distance. Its how much energy a certain trajectory requires, and the specific time to enter that trajectory requires.

It all makes sense now, and does explain why its hard to calculate these things. Because there can be a damn near infinite number of trajectories when you also factor in the moment you need to launch into that trajectory based upon the orbit of both earth and mars, as well as how much energy you can apply to a given orbital trajectory. Neat! I learned something today!
 
Just remember that if you aggressively burn to shorten the travel time to get to Mars (or any other body in the solar system), you also need to aggressively brake to enter orbit. So your spacecraft needs a lot of delta-v to pull it off.

But yes you can always go full Kerbal and add moar boosters. 🚀
 
Core stage for Artemis III has arrived at the Kennedy space center assembly hall


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Core stage for Artemis III has arrived at the Kennedy space center assembly hall
Wow, Artemis I hardware is finally being delivered! Took BOEING long enough!

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Just remember that if you aggressively burn to shorten the travel time to get to Mars (or any other body in the solar system), you also need to aggressively brake to enter orbit. So your spacecraft needs a lot of delta-v to pull it off.

But yes you can always go full Kerbal and add moar boosters. 🚀
Bro, just aerobreak. It's that easy, saar. Literal Jugaad measure (just like stealing energy from other celestial bodies with a gravity assist).

Scientists may have discovered an orbital route to Mars that can complete the journey round trip in 156 days. The proposed launch window opens in 2031.

But yeah, as others have stated there's really nothing new to go off (if the only thing it is suggesting is just using a close flyby to gain more energy). The only real novel thing is the application of Asteroids instead of planets like Venus and Mars as they are close to us and don't take too much energy to get to. Europa Clipper is using Mars then Earth for example as it launched on Falcon Heavy, which didn't have the performance for a direct trajectory.
 
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