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[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

That post was made like half a year before he trooned out.

Yeah, it's just a funny end note to your post about how LordKat turned his life around and stopped being a lolcow.

 

[Boston Brand]

LOL I still remember transition from legit spoony content fans to 'you got me through the dark times'. It was the combo of him going to shit and also no tolerance for any negative or even constructive criticism. Nice to see some activity on this thread lately, even though as usual it's never Spoony or anything he's done since he lost the house much.

He was at $350-400 for a long long time on Patreon but that's nearly all dried up, I guess down to Curtis, Jackson, Warthog and a few diehards.

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She's actually been catching up %-wise, up to almost $10 now:
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But he's coming back..
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As depressing as it is thousands of people still throw thousands of dollars at MovieBob and Lindsay Ellis, at least we are in the final days of when Spoony and Marzgirl have any Patreon support.

Hell, just who the hell are the 57 people paying Spoony $150 a month at this point?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

As depressing as it is thousands of people still throw thousands of dollars at MovieBob and Lindsay Ellis, at least we are in the final days of when Spoony and Marzgirl have any Patreon support.

Hell, just who the hell are the 57 people paying Spoony $150 a month at this point?

Must be people who genuinely believe he's going to come back if they keep donating (If he didn't when he dropped below $1000 a month, what makes you think he'll go back to videos at all?)

It must be depressing to learn Linkara gets more donations and views than you. Before, Lewis used to get a boost every time he was on Spoony's channel and it's what elevated him. Now, if Noah wanted a boost, he could just make a quick cameo in one of Lewis' videos. How the times have changed.

 

[deeman]

Regarding Ultima, I believe he watched his older brother play them and had an attachment to them through that, but I don't have any reason to believe he actually fully played through them. Almost everything in his retrospective could be easily learned second hand online and none of the shown gameplay was his.

It's simple, he didn't play through the ultima series. He's said he watched his brother play them, and as pointed out on the previous page he used other people's footage.

I believe that might be the case, wasn't he critizised for "forgetting" the game had seahorses?

 

[plattschwanz]

It's simple, he didn't play through the ultima series.

This is also the reason why the Ultima Underworld 2 review he made is especially awful, because he had 0 prior exposure to that one. He only talks about the first 5% of the game because he never actually managed to finish it, and most of the review is incessant crying about the first encounter with a headless anyway.

He played the game, tried to fight the headless at level 1 instead of going somewhere else like a retard (just like in the infamous Fallout stream), quit the game soon after, and cobbled together a terrible video.

 

[demicolon]

Hell, just who the hell are the 57 people paying Spoony $150 a month at this point?

The kind of dipship who feels obligated to throw him few bucks from his SSI.

I believe that might be the case, wasn't he critizised for "forgetting" the game had seahorses?

TBF I didn't remember seahorses either as there is precisely one hanging out in Cove in the whole series (excepting Runes of Virtue of course). He put that dumb bit in the review because he had to pad out his runtime with something.

This is also the reason why the Ultima Underworld 2 review he made is especially awful, because he had 0 prior exposure to that one.

Which proves that he did play the other Ultima games, if he didn't he wouldn't have anything constructive to say about them either. IMO the reason he failed so much at Fallout and XCOM is that Ultimas have barely any rpg elements, as in there are no choices you would make in, say, a D&D game: no party building, equipment strategy, battle tactics, classes or races, spell memorization choice, choices at levelups, hell there's barely any stats there. Gameplay revolves around moving from city to city, asking everyone about their "name" and "job", writing down keywords to say to other NPCs, gathering plot items like in an adventure game. Combat and dungeon exploring is so braindead all you have to do is to buy enough reagents for all the utility and healing spells to win.

 

[Oliver Onions]

It must be depressing to learn Linkara gets more donations and views than you.

At least Lewis puts the work in. He put out about 75 videos last year, compared to Spoony's....zero. Even if your content is absolute barrel-scraping garbage (which Linkara's appears to be) if it finds an audience then you just need to be consistent to make a nice little income off of it.

It'll never happen, but it'd be interesting to see if Spoony's Patreon would be affected if he committed to putting out regular videos again, even if they were only 5-minute quick reviews.

 

[Rukario]

This is also the reason why the Ultima Underworld 2 review he made is especially awful, because he had 0 prior exposure to that one. He only talks about the first 5% of the game because he never actually managed to finish it, and most of the review is incessant crying about the first encounter with a headless anyway.

He played the game, tried to fight the headless at level 1 instead of going somewhere else like a retard (just like in the infamous Fallout stream), quit the game soon after, and cobbled together a terrible video.

Back when Youtube was in its early days, the "Angry Reviewer" trope used by Spoony and AVGN and others used the ancient tabloid journalism technique - pick a few points that you can whine over, ignore everything else, and claim its an accurate report nonetheless. Not a honest unbiased review, but instead an funny internet video people will show their friends ie. viral content.

A good example of this is his Final Fantasy VIII 'review': he spends one 9 minute part endlessly drawing magic in an early field battle while screaming how much he hates the game. Sure, its an accurate depiction of Final Fantasy VIII in some respects, but more an entertainment video rather than a review.

 

[plattschwanz]

Back when Youtube was in its early days, the "Angry Reviewer" trope used by Spoony and AVGN and others used the ancient tabloid journalism technique - pick a few points that you can whine over, ignore everything else, and claim its an accurate report nonetheless. Not a honest unbiased review, but instead an funny internet video people will show their friends ie. viral content.

A good example of this is his Final Fantasy VIII 'review': he spends one 9 minute part endlessly drawing magic in an early field battle while screaming how much he hates the game. Sure, its an accurate depiction of Final Fantasy VIII in some respects, but more an entertainment video rather than a review.

The worst part about this is the easily influenced people repeating everything their e-famous replacement father said. Every time UU2 was mentioned in any discussion on the web after that video, you had at least one teenager who never played the game regurgitating the same "UU2 is bad because I'm too stupid to just skip the room with the headless" statement.

Some posters in this thread express sadness about Spoony's "fall", be it out of actual compassion or some weird para-social relationship, but I'm kind of glad that those terrible videos are fading away in relevance more and more.

 

[Michael Bluth]

The worst part about this is the easily influenced people repeating everything their e-famous replacement father said. Every time UU2 was mentioned in any discussion on the web after that video, you had at least one teenager who never played the game regurgitating the same "UU2 is bad because I'm too stupid to just skip the room with the headless" statement.

yeah, same shit happened w NES games and the AVGN.

Every post AVGN vid on TMNT NES shitted on it, when it's not a bad game. Difficult, yes. Bad, not really.

 

[RJ MacReady]

yeah, same shit happened w NES games and the AVGN.

Every post AVGN vid on TMNT NES shitted on it, when it's not a bad game. Difficult, yes. Bad, not really.

I maintain that Castlevania 64 is an okay game despite AVGN having single-handedly destroyed its reputation. Cosmo Wright used to speedrun it before he trooned out.

Donkey Kong 64 is another game I'd consider a classic that has a surprisingly bad reputation attributable to YouTubers.

As far as Spoony goes, I consider it ironic that he always bragged about making his bones shitting on Final Fantasy but in the end he didn't move the needle on those games' legacies. If anything it seems like the FF games he reviewed are being rediscovered by millennials and zoomers in recent years. FFX in particular seems to gets a lot of praise these days.

 

[Carlos Thin]

FFX in particular seems to gets a lot of praise these days.

FFX has always been highly regarded? From what I’ve heard, FFX-2 still gets decisive reviews, and FFXIII still is rated poorly. I think people have come around to VIII though

 

[RJ MacReady]

FFX has always been highly regarded?

I was referring more to its rediscovery by younger gamers, though I do think there was a very long period where it was (superficially) maligned because people did not understand the Tidus laughing scene.

FFXIII still is rated poorly

To be fair I would consider this the exception to my theory but I remember having seen an LP of XIII before Spoony made his review, and while it wasn't amazing I never felt it was nearly as bad as Spoony (and others) depicted so I would be unsurprised if it got reappraised eventually. (Even if that means being considered "okay" instead of "travesty".)

 

[Arthur Morgan]

FFX has always been highly regarded? From what I’ve heard, FFX-2 still gets decisive reviews, and FFXIII still is rated poorly. I think people have come around to VIII though

It was pretty well-liked when I was young during the PS2 era. 7 was usually the high bar, but X was considered good too, just not as good. Mostly for the effects, music, and visuals. The voice acting... not so much.

 

[Oliver Onions]

The worst part about this is the easily influenced people repeating everything their e-famous replacement father said.

I have to admit I'm guilty of this. I hated Metal Gear Solid for years just because of Yahtzee's MGS4 review. The cutscene-to-gameplay ratio is still ridiculous in those games, but they are great fun if you're willing to indulge Kojima's autism.

Every post AVGN vid on TMNT NES shitted on it, when it's not a bad game. Difficult, yes. Bad, not really.

This isn't exactly true. There are certain parts of TMNT that are just coded wrong. The video below covers the notorious water level pretty well, but if you have neither the time nor interest TL;DR is the collision detection is wrong and a lot of the movement controls either do nothing or don't do what they're supposed to.

My personal favourite example is EgoRaptor's Castlevania II review, since it's apparently a decent game if you learn to play it like Castlevania II and not Castlevania I.

 

[Michael Bluth]

This isn't exactly true. There are certain parts of TMNT that are just coded wrong. The video below covers the notorious water level pretty well, but if you have neither the time nor interest TL;DR is the collision detection is wrong and a lot of the movement controls either do nothing or don't do what they're supposed to.

i've watched that vid when it came out, and i still stand by what i say. level 2 was difficult, but not impossible. Bad code doesn't necessarily make it a bad game.

Displaced Gamer also did a recent vid on NES ghost n goblins, which I'd classify as the same - has some quirks/bad code, difficult as shit but not a bad game.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Bad code doesn't necessarily make it a bad game.

True, every game probably has some questionable code, but when your bad code causes the player to take damage when they clearly shouldn't I don't blame anyone for thinking it sucks and giving up.

Just because some people are willing to learn to work around bad code/design doesn't make the game good.

 

[p1138]

True, every game probably has some questionable code, but when your bad code causes the player to take damage when they clearly shouldn't I don't blame anyone for thinking it sucks and giving up.

Just because some people are willing to learn to work around bad code/design doesn't make the game good.

It was certainly a bit more damaging for games when rentals were a thing. New game came out? Go rent it for $4 or whatever, find out the 2nd level is a pain in the ass for some reason you can't understand while in elementary school or whatever, as far as you're concerned the game is dogshit at that point. Of course at the same time there wasn't really much of an internet to go scream about how it's shit and leave a bad review, but you also couldn't just go find a work around either.

Unless their parents actually bought the game, most kids would not have had the patience for that.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Of course at the same time there wasn't really much of an internet to go scream about how it's shit and leave a bad review, but you also couldn't just go find a work around either.

And that's why, to this day, I have never got past the first screen in Judge Dredd for the Genesis.

 

[Akroateron]

I maintain that Castlevania 64 is an okay game despite AVGN having single-handedly destroyed its reputation. Cosmo Wright used to speedrun it before he trooned out.

Donkey Kong 64 is another game I'd consider a classic that has a surprisingly bad reputation attributable to YouTubers.

As far as Spoony goes, I consider it ironic that he always bragged about making his bones shitting on Final Fantasy but in the end he didn't move the needle on those games' legacies. If anything it seems like the FF games he reviewed are being rediscovered by millennials and zoomers in recent years. FFX in particular seems to gets a lot of praise these days.

How much of this is due to their actual caliber, and how much is due to the quality of present-day games is a separate question.