US "The Squad" Megathread - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib Derangement Syndrome

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I honestly only know about American politics from what I read on the Internet but since we all love shitting on leftists I figured we'd get a kick out of this. Also it's trending on Twitter so you know it's important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...irect=on&noredirect=on&utm_term=.960552c9ba53

NEW YORK — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old political novice running on a low budget and an unabashedly liberal platform, upset longtime U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley on Tuesday in the Democratic congressional primary in New York.

The surprise victory by the community organizer in a district that includes parts of the Bronx and Queens came after an energetic, grassroots campaign that mustered more than enough support in a low-turnout race that many had expected to be an easy win for Crowley, a member of the Democratic House leadership.

“The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who has never held elected office and whose candidacy attracted only modest media attention.

She told The Associated Press after her victory that she didn’t have enough money to do polling in the race, but felt in her gut that her message had a chance to connect.

“I live in this community. I organized in this community. I felt the absence of the incumbent. I knew he didn’t have a strong presence,” she said.

Crowley has been in Congress since 1999 and hadn’t faced an opponent in a primary election since 2004, when Ocasio-Cortez was just a teenager. He was considered a candidate to become the next House speaker if Democrats win the majority.

“It’s not about me,” Crowley, 56, told his supporters at a campaign party following his loss. “It’s about America. I want nothing but the best for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. I want her to be victorious.”

He later played guitar with a band at the election night gathering, and dedicated the first song, Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” to Ocasio-Cortez.

Crowley represents New York’s 14th Congressional District, where he is also the leader of the Queens Democratic party.

Ocasio-Cortez was outspent by an 18-1 margin during her race but won the endorsement of some influential groups on the party’s far left, including MoveOn, as well as the actress Cynthia Nixon, who is running for governor. She defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points.

Born in the Bronx to a mother from Puerto Rico and a father who died in 2008, Ocasio-Cortez said she decided to challenge Crowley to push a more progressive stance on economic and other issues.

She attended Boston University, where she earned degrees in economics and international relations, and also spent time working in the office of the late U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy.

After graduating, she returned to the Bronx where she became a community organizer. In the 2016 presidential campaign she worked for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Among her issues is expanding the Medicare program to people of all ages and abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. She recently went to Tornillo, Texas, to protest against policies that have separated parents from their children at the southern U.S. border.

Ocasio-Cortez gained some internet attention for a campaign video called “The Courage to Change,” a two-minute spot for which she wrote the script and featured footage from her own home.

Crowley is chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the fourth-highest ranking position in Democratic leadership in that chamber of Congress.

His loss drew the attention of President Donald Trump.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!” he tweeted.

The Republican candidate for the office, Anthony Pappas, is running unopposed and had no primary. Pappas teaches economics at St. John’s University.

She was a Bernie campaigner, is supported by BLM, and wants to abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Also this was in a solid-blue Congressional District so you know she's a shoo-in for next Congress.

But hey, we did get to see Trump laugh at Crowley on Twitter.
 
The reason they don't send troops to support us in Iraq and Afghanistan is because the second they get there then every body and their grannies will pick up guns and start shooting at us because the Jews are now in their land.

Why do you think Saddam started bombing Israel during the Kuwait war? It wasn't for shits and giggles he knew if he could bait the Israelis into joining the war then the coalition would immedately collapse since the Arabs can't be on the same side as the jews

As for the Sinai, that was the US trying to set themselves up as the Arab World's best friend (up until the 60s Israel was France's greatest ally), we completely destroyed the Franco-Anglo-Jew alliance by threatening to destroy their economies but the Soviet Union cucked us by openly threatening to bomb London and France over the Sinai
We spent a lot of trouble hunting down Scuds in Iraq during the Gulf War to keep Israel out of it. Inviting Israeli troops over to fight with you in the Middle East essentially welcomes all of the shitty tribes and factions that fight each other to just band together to get their Jew killing on.

I'm not about ready to say we should fight their wars for them, but if the Israelis woke up one day and lost their patience and started going ham in the Middle East, I wouldn't be upset over it.
Good points, but you do have to admit they're far from our closest allies.
 
In this climate of having to delicately phrase every single thing you say as a public figure (which the Dems and their constituents have gone out of their way to foster) what Tlaib did was impressively stupid. With context, it's certainly better but since when does context matter anymore? How many times have we seen lynchmobs formed over out-of-context stuff, usually aimed directly at enemies of or nuisances for the Dems and the American left?

Live by the sword of exceptionalism and die by the sword of exceptionalism. Maybe this will prompt a call back to sanity, but I seriously fucking doubt it.
Outrage mobbing and the seeming general decline of reading/writing/critical thinking abilities are my personal triggers. So this isn't aimed at you personally, but I'm using your quote as a jumping off point.

I see this kind of argument a lot. I get it, it's pretty satisfying to use your enemies tactics against them. And yeah, tit-for-tat has been empirically proven to be an extremely effective strategy to force cooperation and curb behavior that harms you. At least in fair environments. But I don't know that we live in a fair environment. The media would appear, at least to me but I'm sure many here feel the same way, aligned with the left's outrage brigades and not the right's. So if you want to go on the attack, your plan of attack should probably stand up to quite a lot of fact checking. This bullshit twisting of words, or use of out of context quotes, discredits any sort of pushback you try.

Personally, I think if you want to end the culture of outrage mobbing, you should hit them hard legally where feasible. I believe cases such as Covington Catholic kid's or Vic Mignogna's defamation suits will do a lot more damage to these bullshit witch hunts than a bunch of feigned pearl clutching ever could, by establishing precedents of financial harm for those constantly trying to get Wrong Thinkers fired and ostracized. If you have to light up the torches and bring out the pitchforks though, at least make sure the facts are on your side.
 
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Closest/best in terms of geopolitical importance? Probably the UK. Closest/best in terms of good relations/how much power the US has over it? Either Kosovo, Japan, or South Korea.
But who gives a fuck about Kosovo anyway?
Outrage mobbing and the seeming general decline of reading/writing/critical thinking abilities are my personal triggers. So this isn't aimed at you personally, but I'm using your quote as a jumping off point.

I see this kind of argument a lot. I get it, it's pretty satisfying to use your enemies tactics against them. And yeah, tit-for-tat has been empirically proven to be an extremely effective strategy force cooperation and curb behavior that harms you. At least in fair environments. But I don't know that we live in a fair environment. The media would appear, at least to me but I'm sure many here feel the same way, aligned with the left's outrage brigades and not the right's. So if you want to go on the attack, your plan of attack should probably stand up to quite a lot of fact checking. This bullshit twisting of words, or use of out of context quotes, discredits any sort of pushback you try.

Personally, I think if you want to end the culture of outrage mobbing, you should hit them hard legally where feasible. I believe cases such as Covington Catholic kid's or Vic Mignogna's defamation suits will do a lot more damage to these bullshit witch hunts than a bunch of feigned pearl clutching ever could, by establishing precedents of financial harm for those constantly trying to get Wrong Thinkers fired and ostracized. If you have to light up the torches and bring out the pitchforks though, at least make sure the facts are on your side.
You're absolutely right but this hinges on people deciding to stop being absolute opportunistic retards who live in the now and solely for the EPIC PWN. I wouldn't go so far as to call your approach pie-in-the-sky but I'm not optimistic.
 
But who gives a fuck about Kosovo anyway?
It holds a massive US base (Camp Bondsteel) that helps the US project power in Europe
Camp_bondsteel_kosovo.jpg

It's basically one big "fuck you" to Russia.
 
To be fair she phrased this in just about the dumbest way possible even in context. I had to read it like three times before I had any clue what she was trying to say there. But really, if she'd instead said "some good came out of the holocaust" or something like that, the full quote would be easy to understand, but with that soundbite she'd be crucified even worse.
 
I think I get why the media keeps harping on neo-nazis. So the dems can not lose all of there Jewish voters
 
Good points, but you do have to admit they're far from our closest allies.

Well, we're their closest ally. Them? Not so much. I think we're generally naturally allies just because of the geopolitical situation but I'm kind of fucking sick of them getting away with absolute murder just because of that.
 
I see this kind of argument a lot. I get it, it's pretty satisfying to use your enemies tactics against them. And yeah, tit-for-tat has been empirically proven to be an extremely effective strategy force cooperation and curb behavior that harms you. At least in fair environments. But I don't know that we live in a fair environment. The media would appear, at least to me but I'm sure many here feel the same way, aligned with the left's outrage brigades and not the right's. So if you want to go on the attack, your plan of attack should probably stand up to quite a lot of fact checking. This bullshit twisting of words, or use of out of context quotes, discredits any sort of pushback you try.

You're talking about the kind of person who explicitly doesn't have a problem with their own tactics until they're used against themselves.

Personally, I think if you want to end the culture of outrage mobbing, you should hit them hard legally where feasible. I believe cases such as Covington Catholic kid's or Vic Mignogna's defamation suits will do a lot more damage to these bullshit witch hunts than a bunch of feigned pearl clutching ever could, by establishing precedents of financial harm for those constantly trying to get Wrong Thinkers fired and ostracized. If you have to light up the torches and bring out the pitchforks though, at least make sure the facts are on your side.

Both are extraordinary events, and it's not exactly feasible to expect every Tom, Dick, and Harry who has that shit happen to them to be able to finance a legal battle even if they were to have what happened to Vic or the CC kids happen to them.
 
Israel isn't anywhere as close of a US ally as people make them out to be. They leased a port to China, we were opposed to their invasion of the Sinai, and they haven't given us any support with the War in Afghanistan or Iraq (even fucking Albania has sent thousands of troops to Afghanistan and Tonga of all countries sent to some troops to help with the Iraq war). Being rude to them shouldn't be some egregious offense.
Wait, I thought you were a troll, all of this post makes sense. (except the Afghanistan part where they offered assistance but got turned down because more important countries in that war hated Israel and wanted nothing to do with them.)
 
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