US "The Squad" Megathread - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib Derangement Syndrome

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I honestly only know about American politics from what I read on the Internet but since we all love shitting on leftists I figured we'd get a kick out of this. Also it's trending on Twitter so you know it's important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...irect=on&noredirect=on&utm_term=.960552c9ba53

NEW YORK — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old political novice running on a low budget and an unabashedly liberal platform, upset longtime U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley on Tuesday in the Democratic congressional primary in New York.

The surprise victory by the community organizer in a district that includes parts of the Bronx and Queens came after an energetic, grassroots campaign that mustered more than enough support in a low-turnout race that many had expected to be an easy win for Crowley, a member of the Democratic House leadership.

“The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who has never held elected office and whose candidacy attracted only modest media attention.

She told The Associated Press after her victory that she didn’t have enough money to do polling in the race, but felt in her gut that her message had a chance to connect.

“I live in this community. I organized in this community. I felt the absence of the incumbent. I knew he didn’t have a strong presence,” she said.

Crowley has been in Congress since 1999 and hadn’t faced an opponent in a primary election since 2004, when Ocasio-Cortez was just a teenager. He was considered a candidate to become the next House speaker if Democrats win the majority.

“It’s not about me,” Crowley, 56, told his supporters at a campaign party following his loss. “It’s about America. I want nothing but the best for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. I want her to be victorious.”

He later played guitar with a band at the election night gathering, and dedicated the first song, Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” to Ocasio-Cortez.

Crowley represents New York’s 14th Congressional District, where he is also the leader of the Queens Democratic party.

Ocasio-Cortez was outspent by an 18-1 margin during her race but won the endorsement of some influential groups on the party’s far left, including MoveOn, as well as the actress Cynthia Nixon, who is running for governor. She defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points.

Born in the Bronx to a mother from Puerto Rico and a father who died in 2008, Ocasio-Cortez said she decided to challenge Crowley to push a more progressive stance on economic and other issues.

She attended Boston University, where she earned degrees in economics and international relations, and also spent time working in the office of the late U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy.

After graduating, she returned to the Bronx where she became a community organizer. In the 2016 presidential campaign she worked for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Among her issues is expanding the Medicare program to people of all ages and abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. She recently went to Tornillo, Texas, to protest against policies that have separated parents from their children at the southern U.S. border.

Ocasio-Cortez gained some internet attention for a campaign video called “The Courage to Change,” a two-minute spot for which she wrote the script and featured footage from her own home.

Crowley is chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the fourth-highest ranking position in Democratic leadership in that chamber of Congress.

His loss drew the attention of President Donald Trump.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!” he tweeted.

The Republican candidate for the office, Anthony Pappas, is running unopposed and had no primary. Pappas teaches economics at St. John’s University.
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She was a Bernie campaigner, is supported by BLM, and wants to abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Also this was in a solid-blue Congressional District so you know she's a shoo-in for next Congress.

But hey, we did get to see Trump laugh at Crowley on Twitter.
 
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Didn't take long for these two feckless cunts to weigh in with their moronic opinions.
Ugh! This was written by MEN!

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Is every work of fiction and art supposed to further her feminist/political dogma? It's as if she's trying to recreate a Soviet style literary test all writers are supposed to follow or they will be told "Unacceptable, comrade" and banned from Amazon.

Also, why are they both wasting time and taxpayer dollars watching and commenting on TV instead of working.
 
BR55 said:
"Make change from $20."
Forgive my Boomerness but there are actually people in college who can't make change?
Oh who am I kidding I should remember who this thread is about.
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Heck, it's been a problem since I was in college, working in fast food and Macy Pennysears. Whenever the registers would go on strike, there was usually only one person in the area who could total up the sales and make change (and I'll give you two guesses which bread-wielding paladin of snark it was).
 
Compositesludge said:
I'm not sure if I'd call it a colonial practice, but I do see where she's coming from. It's best to encourage communal gardens which grow food that the community is familiar with and eats, instead of promoting foods that they don't much care for.

That being said, I'm not sure how large a problem that is? I can't judge her either way, because I am simply not familiar enough with communal gardens and their practices, but I don't think people would be discouraged from growing more unique/diverse plant species in communal gardens, so long as it was possible and they didn't hurt other plants in the process.

EDIT: Okay, so I did a quick and lazy check on some communal garden laws, and it seems more like legal concerns are more centered around land usage and the sale of produce from communal gardens, so... problem solved?
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Sure, but she's not talking about what to grow but that growing the wrong thing is why black people don't drive a Prius and keep five bins to recycle or whatever fits in her idea of enviromentalism. I don't think it's the white specter of cauliflower in community gardens that is the root cause of that, that's the part I found funny.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
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Here, take it.
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Well, this was a jarring turn in the conversation.

Anyhow, I like that she associates cauliflower with colonialism purely because it's white. A better argument against it is that it's kind of hard to grow unless you're paying close attention to its needs, compared with other, hardier plants that have better yield.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Sure, but she's not talking about what to grow but that growing the wrong thing is why black people don't drive a Prius and keep five bins to recycle or whatever fits in her idea of enviromentalism. I don't think it's the white specter of cauliflower in community gardens that is the root cause of that, that's the part I found funny.
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Oh, of course! The academic argument underpinning colonialism is that it's really darn reaching in scope, so the impacts aren't restrained to just financial and power relations, but also to social cohesion and what's considered acceptable or normal within a community. In that sense, it wouldn't be that it was the cauliflower doing it, but what the cauliflower represented as an appendage of a very broad and encapsulating sense of general oppression, that vegetables/fruits more diverse than something like cauliflower simply can't be allowed.

The big problem with this, and I think it's something that she should elaborate on, is what exactly she meant by addressing those colonial legacies with regards to community gardening spaces. I don't think that many folks would be seriously harmed or upset by somebody growing something like Yucca or Dragonfruit, and it doesn't seem like there are many laws restricting or prohibiting the cultivation of those diverse fruits in communal spaces. It almost seems like she's planning on addressing a nonexistent problem. I really want to give her the benefit of the doubt and hope that she clarifies this more in the future, as is, it's just a bit confusing.
 
Compositesludge said:
The big problem with this, and I think it's something that she should elaborate on, is what exactly she meant by
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Ah yes, the point in the conversation where the politician's proponents tell us what they meant instead of what they said, because what they said made them, and therefore their proponents, look like drooling morons.
 
Jigglyjogglers said:
Ah yes, the point in the conversation where the politician's proponents tell us what they meant instead of what they said, because what they said made them, and therefore their proponents, look like drooling morons.
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I dunno if I'd qualify as a proponent of AOC, I just like to encourage conversations over topics like this and engage with them as much as possible! What, in your opinion, was the part of what she said that made her and her proponents out to look like drooling morons, and what would have been a more factual statement to make?
 
Compositesludge said:
It's best to encourage communal gardens which grow food that the community is familiar with
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I grow cauliflower. It's become quite trendy as a gluten-free alternative these days and they process it as flour instead of using wheat to make bread and such. I enjoy it fresh, as well as broccoli, cabbage and other stuff I grow. Here is a pic from my garden of fucks given (no, not communal, I work too hard to grow this shit to have it ravaged by a bunch of vegan hippies).

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Compositesludge said:
I dunno if I'd qualify as a proponent of AOC, I just like to encourage conversations over topics like this and engage with them as much as possible! What, in your opinion, was the part of what she said that made her and her proponents out to look like drooling morons, and what would have been a more factual statement to make?
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Everything she's ever said has made her and her proponents out to look like drooling morons. But most recently in this thread, any crossover between "colonialism" and "community gardens". Really any use of "colonialism" that does not refer specifically to the era when nations were setting out to make colonies on other landmasses is for drooling morons.

I'm not going to sit here and make her arguments for her, especially when she's apparently got you to do that for her. (Also lol "not a proponent", my dude you were practically begging her to come out and say she meant what you said she meant, you're a fanboy, admit it and then feel deep depression over it.)
 
Hey, no need to get nasty and start calling people AOC fans here. I'm sure composite sludge's handler will be along shortly to clarify what sludge meant by what he said AOC meant.

I know I am a broken record on this, but what in Odin's magnificent beard does community gardening have to do with climate change?
 
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