US "The Squad" Megathread - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib Derangement Syndrome

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I honestly only know about American politics from what I read on the Internet but since we all love shitting on leftists I figured we'd get a kick out of this. Also it's trending on Twitter so you know it's important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...irect=on&noredirect=on&utm_term=.960552c9ba53

NEW YORK — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old political novice running on a low budget and an unabashedly liberal platform, upset longtime U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley on Tuesday in the Democratic congressional primary in New York.

The surprise victory by the community organizer in a district that includes parts of the Bronx and Queens came after an energetic, grassroots campaign that mustered more than enough support in a low-turnout race that many had expected to be an easy win for Crowley, a member of the Democratic House leadership.

“The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who has never held elected office and whose candidacy attracted only modest media attention.

She told The Associated Press after her victory that she didn’t have enough money to do polling in the race, but felt in her gut that her message had a chance to connect.

“I live in this community. I organized in this community. I felt the absence of the incumbent. I knew he didn’t have a strong presence,” she said.

Crowley has been in Congress since 1999 and hadn’t faced an opponent in a primary election since 2004, when Ocasio-Cortez was just a teenager. He was considered a candidate to become the next House speaker if Democrats win the majority.

“It’s not about me,” Crowley, 56, told his supporters at a campaign party following his loss. “It’s about America. I want nothing but the best for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. I want her to be victorious.”

He later played guitar with a band at the election night gathering, and dedicated the first song, Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” to Ocasio-Cortez.

Crowley represents New York’s 14th Congressional District, where he is also the leader of the Queens Democratic party.

Ocasio-Cortez was outspent by an 18-1 margin during her race but won the endorsement of some influential groups on the party’s far left, including MoveOn, as well as the actress Cynthia Nixon, who is running for governor. She defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points.

Born in the Bronx to a mother from Puerto Rico and a father who died in 2008, Ocasio-Cortez said she decided to challenge Crowley to push a more progressive stance on economic and other issues.

She attended Boston University, where she earned degrees in economics and international relations, and also spent time working in the office of the late U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy.

After graduating, she returned to the Bronx where she became a community organizer. In the 2016 presidential campaign she worked for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Among her issues is expanding the Medicare program to people of all ages and abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. She recently went to Tornillo, Texas, to protest against policies that have separated parents from their children at the southern U.S. border.

Ocasio-Cortez gained some internet attention for a campaign video called “The Courage to Change,” a two-minute spot for which she wrote the script and featured footage from her own home.

Crowley is chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the fourth-highest ranking position in Democratic leadership in that chamber of Congress.

His loss drew the attention of President Donald Trump.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!” he tweeted.

The Republican candidate for the office, Anthony Pappas, is running unopposed and had no primary. Pappas teaches economics at St. John’s University.

She was a Bernie campaigner, is supported by BLM, and wants to abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Also this was in a solid-blue Congressional District so you know she's a shoo-in for next Congress.

But hey, we did get to see Trump laugh at Crowley on Twitter.
 
I'm all for stop downplaying the holocaust by calling everybody a nazi, but I'm enjoying a lot how the usual "pro free speech" supporters are so mad that AOC used these very specific words. The best part is how they're trying to tiptoe around the issue because they want to say "it's a hate crime!" despite they can't say so as it would bring down everything they've been saying for the past year.

tl;dr: pro free speech crowd is mad AOC used her free speech to downplay the holocaust.

Being pro-free-speech doesn't mean you don't believe speech can be offensive, dumb, ignorant, or pretty much anything else. It also doesn't mean you can't tell people you think that.

It just means you don't think the government (or quasi-governmental international corporations, I suppose, while we're at it) should be censoring it.

Try harder.
 
They are criticizing her narrative, they're not calling her to be banned from Twitter and shit.

Do a twitter search for AOC and "antisemitic"/"antisemite". You don't need to actively try to shut down someone to go against (their) freedom of speech. As dumb as the statement is, trying to attribute "hate speech" or "anti-semitism" to it is moronic and it's a subtle attempt to present her as someone who hates jews, exactly how libtards say making a joke about transexuals makes you "transphobic". It's about defaming her when she's already stupid enough that there is no need.

What she said it's ignorant, but it's not antisemite: first, concentration camps are not exclusive to the holocaust and second, the centers where the kids are kept are not even remotely like them either. Say that instead of saying she hates Jews because she doesn't. I really, really despite this woman, but I hate hypocrites even more. Freedom of speech also includes saying "well, I don't really like Jews" just as it includes "I don't like Christians". Either both are ok or none is.
 
Freedom of speech also includes saying "well, I don't really like Jews" just as it includes "I don't like Christians". Either both are ok or none is.

How are you defining "ok"?

Both should be legal. Both should also probably not be something you want your elected officials to be saying, because it represents a probable inability to do their job properly.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not an anti semite. Trying to paint her as an anti semite because she called detention facilities "concentration camps" is rather disingenuous. I feel very comfortable saying that Senator Bernie Sanders, who is famously Jewish, would not have so readily accepted a anti semite and she would still be bartending if it were true.
 
Sīn, I'm concerned you're not remembering thr Holocaust hard enough right now
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not an anti semite. Trying to paint her as an anti semite because she called detention facilities "concentration camps" is rather disingenuous. I feel very comfortable saying that Senator Bernie Sanders, who is famously Jewish, would not have so readily accepted a anti semite and she would still be bartending if it were true.

In Current Year +4, “anti semite” just means someone the Jews don’t like.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not an anti semite. Trying to paint her as an anti semite because she called detention facilities "concentration camps" is rather disingenuous. I feel very comfortable saying that Senator Bernie Sanders, who is famously Jewish, would not have so readily accepted a anti semite and she would still be bartending if it were true.

You'd also think that Senator Bernie Sanders, who is famously Jewish, would not be so eager to establish exactly the form of government the Nazis used to solidify their control over the country so they could wipe out segments of the population, but there you go.

I'm not going to sit here and argue over whether AOC meets the strict standards of anti-Semitism or not, but I will point out that pretty much the entirety of the left has a fairly strong anti-semitic undercurrent, in large part because of lingering "eat the rich (Jews are rich)" sentiment from the days before Jews became Schrodinger's PoC, and due to their opposition of Israel due to Republicans liking it and support of Palestine due to Republicans not liking it (since the vast majority of leftist identity is based purely on opposition rather than ideology). And any time a leftist has to choose between racial/faith identity and The Leftist Cause, they'll pick the cause every time... just watch black Democrats posture and preen and then fuck over black communities harder than ever every chance they get.

So "But he's a JOO!" is a kind of stupid reason to claim Bernie wouldn't support anything or anyone in particular. Bernie'd suckle Hitler's pickled sole nut if it got him half an inch closer to power, taking in a ranting horseface who may or may not dislike Jewish people is not exactly a huge leap.
 
How are you defining "ok"?

Both should be legal. Both should also probably not be something you want your elected officials to be saying, because it represents a probable inability to do their job properly.
What if they say "Well, I really don't like Muslims?" :thinking::thinking::thinking:

For real, though, it was a dumb as shit comparison, but making a dumb Holocaust comparison does not an anti-semite make. Nor does opposing Israel's actions, although people who do might also be antisemites.
 
There is actually a video of her demoing her print company using public fund (lol) that didn't succeed (cuz she went to bartending later on) so if I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet on her business savvy.

If I remember correctly, she started the company as part of the community participation or contribution.

You'd think her failures as a company owner would have educated her about the Nativity of her ideals but alas.

To be fair, it's really hard to run a profitable publishing company. It seems like most boutique publishing houses are run by what are essentially hobbyists with deep pockets. Although AOC was still exceptional for thinking she could make it work. Maybe she should have done what non-idiots do and get a job at an existing publishing company so she could get a feel for how to be successful at it.

There are still unpaid taxes associated with her failed business venture. It seems weird that she owes taxes on a failed business that never generated any profits. I think it's a safe assumption that a book publishing company that never published a single book didn't generate any profits. If she dumped her own money into it, she can write that off as a loss.

So how does she owe taxes on her flopped business? The only thing I can think of that makes sense is grant money. I'll bet she got some sort of of POCwomyn entrepreneur grant, and it counted as "income" and she was required to pay corporate tax on it, which of course she didn't, because taxes for thee, but not for me, comrade.

She owes state taxes. I don't know about New York, but, in my state, businesses pay corporate taxes on gross proceeds, not profit.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not an anti semite. Trying to paint her as an anti semite because she called detention facilities "concentration camps" is rather disingenuous. I feel very comfortable saying that Senator Bernie Sanders, who is famously Jewish, would not have so readily accepted a anti semite and she would still be bartending if it were true.

Bernie would star in Blacked if it could get him elected.
 
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looking forward to his next campaign ad "two democratic socialists, one cup" which demonstrates the best sort of food that that will be available if his policies are ever put in place
 

A member of Poland's Parliament wrote an open letter to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Thursday, inviting her to visit the sites of Nazi concentration camps in his country.

In his letter, Dominik Tarczyński extended an “olive branch of education” to the New York Democrat, giving her a brief history of the Nazi occupation of Poland and expressing his “distress” about the congresswoman's comparison of concentration camps to U.S. facilities.

“This is why when someone cheapens the history, or uses it for political point-scoring, we become agitated and upset,” Tarczyński wrote. “I understand that there are heightened tensions in your politics right now, but I would urge severe caution in attempting to leverage phrases such as 'concentration camp' for political ends. It will lead nowhere good.”

He also invited Ocasio-Cortez to visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and Majdanek so the Democrat could “study the concentration camps here for real” and “see first hand how different it is from [the] immigration processing centers on the U.S. border.” The official Twitter accounts of both the Auschwitz Memorial and Yad Vashem tweeted to her amid the fallout of her comments.

This comes after Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said in a Monday Instagram Live video that the United States is holding immigrants in concentration camps at the southern border.

She has continued to stand by her comments.

“At these camps… over three million human souls were extinguished,” Tarczyński finishes the letter.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has yet to comment on the invitation.



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Freedom of speech also includes saying "well, I don't really like Jews" just as it includes "I don't like Christians". Either both are ok or none is.

Nobody is keeping her from being able to say whatever the hell she wants simply by giving an opinion though. Censorship is not equatable to criticism.
 

A member of Poland's Parliament wrote an open letter to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Thursday, inviting her to visit the sites of Nazi concentration camps in his country.

In his letter, Dominik Tarczyński extended an “olive branch of education” to the New York Democrat, giving her a brief history of the Nazi occupation of Poland and expressing his “distress” about the congresswoman's comparison of concentration camps to U.S. facilities.

“This is why when someone cheapens the history, or uses it for political point-scoring, we become agitated and upset,” Tarczyński wrote. “I understand that there are heightened tensions in your politics right now, but I would urge severe caution in attempting to leverage phrases such as 'concentration camp' for political ends. It will lead nowhere good.”

He also invited Ocasio-Cortez to visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and Majdanek so the Democrat could “study the concentration camps here for real” and “see first hand how different it is from [the] immigration processing centers on the U.S. border.” The official Twitter accounts of both the Auschwitz Memorial and Yad Vashem tweeted to her amid the fallout of her comments.

This comes after Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said in a Monday Instagram Live video that the United States is holding immigrants in concentration camps at the southern border.

She has continued to stand by her comments.

“At these camps… over three million human souls were extinguished,” Tarczyński finishes the letter.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has yet to comment on the invitation.



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AOC is like a modern socrates.
Often she ends up asking dumb questions but every now and then she steamrolls burdensome conventions.
I don't mind a representative who's willing to speak up
 
AOC is like a modern socrates.
Often she ends up asking dumb questions but every now and then she steamrolls burdensome conventions.
I don't mind a representative who's willing to speak up
This right here is the stupidest thing I've heard all week.
 
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