Opinion The States Aren't the Answer. They're the Problem - Abolish the States, the Senate, and the Electoral College. ALL POWER TO THE URBAN BUGHIVES!

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Do we still need the states?

For the moment, yes. The daily parade of horrors flowing from the White House makes states a vital part of the resistance. Over time, however, the states will not save us from runaway authoritarian presidents. To the contrary, the states help elect them. Local governments would be a superior substitute.

It is time to start thinking about radical surgery: the abolition of state government.

Some might say this is no time for dreamy thought experiments. The crisis is upon us. But Americans are fully capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. Even given the urgency of the moment, we would be remiss to ignore the long-term problems.

The most obvious problem is that state intervention is a double-edged sword. Had Kamala Harris won the 2024 election, red states would be doing everything possible to thwart her agenda—as they did during the Obama and Biden administrations. To be fair, blue states have done the same during both Trump administrations. Today's state enthusiasts will always be tomorrow's state critics.

The second problem with states is that we don't need them. Without states, the tens of thousands of local governments, either individually or in collaboration, could attack federal overreach just as well. They too can pass laws and bring lawsuits. If anything, local elected leaders are better positioned to do so, since they are geographically closer, and thus more accessible, to the people they represent. Moreover, since the political divides between urban and rural locales dwarf the divides among states, local elected leaders are more likely to reflect their constituents' political preferences than are state legislatures.

Most importantly, the states got us into this mess. Their astonishingly broad—and disproportionately distributed—constitutional powers over both state and national elections, combined with the many ways in which state legislatures have abused those powers, are incompatible with any credible definition of democracy. The resulting electoral distortions dramatically increase the chances of an authoritarian party pulling off a national trifecta—control of the White House and both houses of Congress.

On five occasions already, the state-centered Electoral College has installed presidents whom the voters had rejected nationwide. There have also been many near misses, making it a statistical certainty that the Electoral College will award the presidency to many future losers of the national popular vote. True, 2024 was not a direct example, as Donald Trump finally won the popular vote, albeit narrowly. Even so, as his party's nominee he had lost the popular vote in 2016 and again in 2020. Without states, and therefore without the Electoral College, he would have entered 2024 having lost two consecutive presidential elections. His chances of winning a third consecutive Republican Party nomination would surely have taken a huge hit.

It's not just the presidency. The Constitution gives every state two U.S. senators, regardless of population size. If you live in Wyoming, you get approximately 69 times as much say in the U.S. Senate as your fellow citizen who lives in California. Today, a majority of the U.S. population is represented by only 18 percent of the Senate.

These legislative and executive branch inequities have a ripple effect; they also skew the federal courts. That is because, by constitutional design, federal judges are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. Three of the current Supreme Court justices were appointed by President Trump after he had lost the national popular vote; five were confirmed by senators who collectively represented only a minority of the U.S. population. And consider this: From 1969 to the present, 15 of the 20 Supreme Court appointments have been by Republican presidents, even though the Democratic nominees had won the national popular vote in a majority of the corresponding elections. Lower federal court judgeships fit the same counter-majoritarian pattern.

The process for amending the U.S. Constitution similarly gifts the smaller states with powers grotesquely disproportionate to their population sizes. Not so long ago, even after a 2/3 vote of approval in both houses of Congress, states that represented only 22 percent of the U.S. population were able to block ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment.

State legislatures have shamelessly exploited their outsized powers. They have enacted brazen gerrymandering schemes, and with false claims of widespread voter fraud as cover, increasingly aggressive voter suppression laws that surgically target minority populations. These and other state actions have laid waste to our two most sacred democratic norms—political equality and majority rule.

People, not the artificial constructs we call states, should be our basic voting units. Nor should your say in national elections depend on where in the U.S. you live. Aside from corroding the principle of one-person-one-vote, state-based voting in national elections distorts outcomes in ways that make it too easy for radical movements to seize nationwide control with only minority support.

After the fact, states can sometimes nibble away at specific excesses, but their bloated constitutional powers and their abuses of those powers help spawn the crises in the first place. Instead, why not entrust the resistance to the tens of thousands of local governments?

Without state government, E pluribus unum would take on a different meaning. No longer a union of states, this country would become, simply and more meaningfully, a union of its people. And a far more democratic union at that.
 
By Stephen Legomsky - John S. Lehmann University Professor Emeritus, Washington University School of Law
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I can't come up with a good snide remark for this fucker because I'm waking up but after I read part of that article, I had to see who the shitstain was that thought this was good idea.
Another Fucking Liberal Faggot in a sea of Liberal Faggots who got in "the System" and became an important faggot to one of the destructive regimes in the United States have ever seen.
 
Yet another cope piece that boils down to "In order to save democracy, we need to effectively destroy it." Democrats and their mouthpieces are still in denial about the deep shit they're in.

But only for Trump, since he's evil. Get rid of him and they promise things can go back to normal with Republicans as eternal whipping boys as opposition. You'd have to be a moron to believe that. Give a leftist Stalinist powers and he'll never relinquish them.
 
These retards really think they're so insulated they'd never have any suffering inflicted on them in an actual urban vs rural civil conflict. Forget civil war type battle lines, you'd see some truly nasty shit in such a conflict, and it would be heavily tilted toward the rural population in nearly every theater it was fought in for reasons that have been obvious to even inbred savage warrior cultures for thousands of years. It is fairly easy to invade and subdue an urban area, it is much more difficult to subdue and hold a rural area for any length of time, even the Romans failed eventually and trying to hold too many backwoods country areas split the empire. The same problems would face them today, and without state governments holding shit in place it would be like a fucking wild West, even as bloated as the federal government is it would be useless actually upholding some semblance of order in much of the country. And good luck getting the local cops to help you once you inform them that your bughive cities control who gets to play sheriff above them thanks to the political districting that would inevitably happen.

Part of me wants to see them keep trying this because the eventual bloodbath if they escalate far enough will probably kill off at least half the net metro population in the US.
 
These and other state actions have laid waste to our two most sacred democratic norms—political equality and majority rule.
Majority rule is a foundational democratic norm!

Also, we must give minority groups disproportionate political influence, and ignore the wishes of the majority whenever it benefits us politically we notice the majority is being heckin oppressive, because majority rule is an evil bigoted huwite capitalist institution of evil, and won't somebody please think of the poor minorities (at least, the ones who vote the way I say they should).
 
Stalinist dicksuckers like this guy just think they're going to autopen away the rights of the goyim kulaks and then we'll have to listen to New York, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Fran, and Chicago or else . I would gladly put on the pink shooting glasses and ask him "Oh yeah, what kind of American?" Gladly. Happily. This lime-pit escapee. This useless eater. This rootless cosmopolitan.
It have been very easy for them to think that since hardly anyone in the rurals did fuck all about the bugmen overlording over them since the end of the American Civil War.
 
Wait, do you actually believe liberal democrats are "Stalinists"?

No, of course I don't. But the people driving the Left aren't actually liberal democrats, those are the ones being ignored as they try to lead the party. But that wasn't an honest question and you're not willing or capable of having a real discussion about it. Are you, Ashley? Now you're trying to smear fnaarf by stealing her username to attack me, as if I'm not perfectly aware who's doing it.
 
You would be laughed off of reddit for how stupid you are and you should actually kill yourself.
Nigga this article is literally someone saying that the states should be dismantled because he's butthurt that the Senate is structured as two senators per state and apparently completely rewrite the Constitution because he doesn't like how judges are appointed. In what world is that moderate liberal democracy?

EDIT: Actually this is apparently some schizo slapfight between two people. What the fuck are you two tards on about?
 
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This guy's onto something, even if he doesn't realize it. We could fix the nation by abolishing the autonomy of the States. Assuming, of course, we are doing so to implement White Terror and send every rat like this article's author to a labor camp.


Articles like this are great because conservatives love to jabber about freedom and democracy, and reminding them that they're a minority and can only hold on to power by exploiting the least democratic parts of the constitutional system always makes them seethe.
Putting aside the fact that the right won the popular vote last time, Democracy != Freedom. Indeed, Democracy is arguably antithetical to Freedom for it mostly turns into two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
 
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Putting aside the fact that the right won the popular vote last time, Democracy != Freedom. Indeed, Democracy is arguably antithetical to Freedom for it mostly turns into two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

I've heard that one before, it's really popular with losers who like to think of themselves as victims. Nevertheless, I'll be sure to remember it the next time there's weeping here because some right wing guy is barred from campaigning or the Democrats depose Trump.
 
Sounds like what the author is actually mad about is the electoral college, not state governments. These are not the same thing. The electoral college is about determining government at the national level, not local autonomy.


This is a terrible idea. The author is concerned that the power of state governments gives power to petty tyrants. This is significantly more true in local government. City and county politics tends to attract crackpots who are banking on the fact people pay less attention to it than national/state government. If you look at the type of bylaws American cities and counties tend to pass, they tend to be completely batshit. That's for a reason.
He seems to be upset about the number of representatives each state has. In particular the Senate. I would agree that we could increase the number of senators each state gets, that would be fine as long as they were equal numbers.
But I'm guessing he's one of those that if you point out the House of Representative's should have something like 11,000 people in it, he will start smearing shit all over the walls in rage.
 
I've heard that one before, it's really popular with losers who like to think of themselves as victims. Nevertheless, I'll be sure to remember it the next time there's weeping here because some right wing guy is barred from campaigning or the Democrats depose Trump.
Considering you already forgot the results of an election not even a year old, I suspect you'll actually remember bugger all. You'll just keep sperging over how "we'll get those darn dirty trolls conservatives yet" until we both end up getting shot for posting on Kiwifarms when an Antifa dictatorship takes over.
 
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Stalinist dicksuckers like this guy just think they're going to autopen away the rights of the goyim kulaks and then we'll have to listen to New York, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Fran, and Chicago or else . I would gladly put on the pink shooting glasses and ask him "Oh yeah, what kind of American?" Gladly. Happily. This lime-pit escapee. This useless eater. This rootless cosmopolitan.
Poetic. Rootless cosmopolitan is a good term to dodge the censors. Do I need to do a early life check?
I read a piece about the golden age of Da Jew coming to an end in America.
It can't come fast enough.
 
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