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It's going to be "amusing" when the inflicted disability starts losing its novelty and these idiots now realize they're stuck.
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Katawa Shoujo didn't try to fetishize its characters based on their disabilities. In fact it was talking about how people with them are human just like everyone else and don't need pity. While the game does have some graphic sex scenes, none of them were based around someone's disability.
Not saying that there aren't people out there who probably get off on say... Emi due to her lack of legs, but that wasn't the point of the game or why it was so popular.
No I'm totally not biased. What are you talking about? >_>
But yeah, it's pretty messed up people would want to get rid of their own limbs due to some fetish or identity issues. Those are the kinds of people who need help.
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All transableists are poseurs until they hack off a limb, text it. #YOLO #amputeeswag #right2noarms
17 posts before Katawa Shoujo is mentioned. That was quicker than expected.
Hey man, I'm there for pictures of cute animals, nostalgia posts, incomprehensible memes and porn. You follow single-purpose blogs, you're not likely to run into this bullshit.
For a dating sim, it's surprisingly tasteful in its presentation of the characters and their personalities. I was pleasantly surprised by it. I never got a fetishy vibe from it at all, so kudos to the writers for being to balance that out.
17 posts before Katawa Shoujo is mentioned. That was quicker than expected.
Hey man, I'm there for pictures of cute animals, nostalgia posts, incomprehensible memes and porn. You follow single-purpose blogs, you're not likely to run into this bullshit.
For a dating sim, it's surprisingly tasteful in its presentation of the characters and their personalities. I was pleasantly surprised by it. I never got a fetishy vibe from it at all, so kudos to the writers for being to balance that out.
Rin is best girl.
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I didn't know transableism was even a thing until I read this thread.
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Fun fact - I actually run a BIID blog that was listed in this thread. I have it.
Sorry for the bump, I know, but I thought I'd throw out my opinions out there as an actual patient.
From what I know, most people who actually have BIID don't really have anything interesting to post. I know I've had it ever since before I was 10, but I didn't understand what it was and I always thought I was going crazy for wanting to be blind. Blind BIID is a lot rarer than the amputee forms, so amp blogs honestly make me a bit uncomfortable, but all they really post are pictures of amputees. There aren't any real "secret tags" anyone uses from what I've seen. There's nothing there. Usually the people who post those picture blogs don't tag anything, and I very rarely tag my posts on my blog.
I mean, fake SJWs probably have some tag. I wouldn't use it though. If I do tag stuff I usually just tag it with BIID, sometimes "transabled" if I'm talking about that. Fake SJWs do all sorts of stupid shit. Seriously I am so up to here with their shit, it's thanks to them that people don't take my issues seriously.
You wanna know what's waaay funnier? Retarded SJW transgender people trying to claim that it doesn't exist. This trainwreck is my personal favourite, count the special snowflake counters on this guy! Extra points for anything made past 2013 where articles from researchers really started to pick up some steam.
"Transabled" is such a shitty name for what we actually experience, it makes us look like welfare queens. A better description would be "transbodied" - our brains fucked up in understanding how our body physically is so it stresses us out. My condition just basically causes me to close my eyes because I get stressed out by the issue and it resets my brain. Hopefully as I participate in research we can get information and possibly even a treatment option.
I made the blog because when I realized what I had I freaked the hell out and I made it as a way for me to work through shit. I figured if I was just freaking out then it would go away after a few weeks, but it stayed, and I realized just how far I let it go. I go to doctors now and hopefully will be participating in research.
From what I've seen they're honestly normal people, for the most part. Well, outside of the obvious. Most of the community is older and doesn't really bite the SJW bait - in fact I often hear them holding opinions contrary to the SJW narrative. SJWs hate us anyways (we're "ableist") so we don't really care. A lot of them are actually really helpful to people with disabilities in their local communities. In fact, for those who "pretend" in public, you probably would think they were totally normal people. You would probably have no idea until they told you.
To be honest, having BIID has made it really clear to me how fucking terrible the transgender movement is. The "transabled" movement isn't really run by many people, mainly a few weirdos who give us a bad name. There really isn't much of a movement at all, the most of a movement there is is to get us in the DSM-VI, which I think all of us would agree is very reasonable.
Like don't get me wrong, there are freaks among us freaks, oh for sure, and while I haven't found any active English speaking communities, I'm sure there are BIID lolcows. But BIID isn't really an instant lolcow mix, like you'd expect. And the guy who opened up transabled.org in my opinion is kind of like that really obnoxious equivalent in autism or transgender activism who you just wish would SHUT THEIR FUCKING MOUTH.
But seriously back on topic, trans activism. What the hell.
First off, they bitch about how it makes them sad about how theeeey have a disorder and it shouldn't be called a disorder because ooooh nooo it's so terrible! But, then they go around and claim that we're almost inhuman. Uh, hello, last time I fucking checked you want to chop off your penis. They want to chop of their leg. It's the same fucking shit. I swear to god they probably don't get it because their hormones are so fucked or something, I have no idea.
They constantly try to distance themselves from us. They don't want to play in the sandbox with all the other fucking freaks, so they treat us like shit and pretend they're normal. DUDE, YOU'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GIVE YOURSELF A VAGINA, THAT'S NOT NORMAL. JUST FUCKING ACCEPT YOU'RE NOT NORMAL. WE HAVE TO.
And that's the thing that pisses me off. Like, we have to just accept the fact that we're fucking freaks that most of the world wants us fucking dead because of something we can't really do anything about, and we just have to bite the bullet on everything, but transgender people expect the fucking world to go and suck their dysphoric cock. Why? Why do we owe you anything?
It's like when they fucking bitch because they dress like goddamn freaks and people freak out. And I'm not talking like a born male just wearing a dress or something, like I don't give a shit, I'm talking about those retards who go around and dress in all that fucking bullshit and are like OH MY GOD I'M GENDERQUEEER or whatever bullshit. Like, I have trouble walking to my desk in the morning to work some days without closing my eyes, my mind is literally that screwed up, and I can't use a cane, because then I have to explain to every nosey fuck in the company that no, I'm not going blind, yes, I did leave the car and then use a blind cane, I have a disorder that does this or that, yadda yadda. Or I have to lie, and that's a fucking mess. But they expect everyone to fucking just bow to their queerness.
I have to submit to literally everyone around me, I have to fight these urges and they get so intense that I've done (thankfully minor) damage to my eyes. And these people think they can do whatever the fuck they please. It's like that murderer who was like, "but I'm twansgender! I deserve to have an expensive surgery to give me a vagina!"... all while there are many people with serious mental illnesses who. It's like in all seriousness, if I just cracked one day and decided I had to go blind and for some reason I decided to do it through surgery (could just fucking use lasers lol) I wouldn't take it out of anywhere but my own pocket. And honestly if you killed someone you don't fucking deserve anything before people who are, I don't know, actually fucking suffering from real serious terrifying shit, like being schizo.
These people go around and try everything they can to distance themselves from us but, while extremely early, there is some research to suggest they have similarities.
I mean, I accept it! I have to! I'm a freak. I mean, at least I'm a freak with some integrity. My interest in blindness really ends up helping them out, I have a lot of blind friends and they know about my issues and they're fine with it because I'm not a cunt and I don't go around and claim that I'm anything that I'm not. I'm a freak who wants to be blind, whatever, at least you are really good at improving my life in this way or that way that most sighted people don't even give a shit about, that's what they usually say.
My opinion on the condition has changed somewhat since I first started going to doctors for it. I used to have this, "don't fall into that trap, pretending is bad, you need to learn how to just deal with it, ect". But I literally couldn't, and I was terrified, so I think now that pretending is alright if you're not being a douche and actually taking up resources reserved for people who can't. I'm lucky since pretty much the only way I could do this is if I got a service animal or something, but that may honestly be appropriate in my case for the BIID itself.
I mean the thing people need to understand is that when I "pretend", I don't just don glasses and a cane, I have black opaque contacts, I have sunglasses with the insides painted, I know people who use other things like sleeper masks and eye patches. I am actually blind when I'm pretending. I need to because if I don't I have such a horrible feeling I physcially want to blind myself permanently. Fake ass SJWs just do it for attention points, they don't go and spend a hundred dollars for a set of contacts so they can actually blind themselves just to feel normal. Seriously I saw some dumbass actually say "I think I have BIID but it wouldn't be in blindness because I like drawing!", dude BIID doesn't give a fuck.
But I don't really see any of this in the transgender movement. Sure, transgender people and feminists have always had some serious issues with eachother and it's always hiiiilarious, but the transgender movement doesn't seem to have a lot of "charitable" work towards others. It seems to be a very selfish movement and focuses mainly on its own issues to an almost disturbing degree. Like they don't give a shit. I do so much for blind people and it's not out of a fetish or anything, it's because I honestly get hit with a lot of the same stupid shit that they have to put up with. But transgender activism only seems to care about itself.
Like, can you imagine if us BIIDers suddenly came out of the cracks and started yelling at people for not enabling their children interested in disabilities and convinving them that they should be disabled? Can you imagine the fucking shitstorm? But transgender people do this all the fucking time!
Seriously, take any fucking genderspecial or otherkin bitching post and replace it with disability terms and watch the fucking sparks fly.
Not all of them are this much of a douche but the movement itself acts like this.
I mean this behaviour is hurting us. I mentioned that we didn't get it into the DSM-V, which is a fucking nightmare. It means that I am afraid of being diagnosed with some sort of psychosis or something when in reality I'm a lot more stable than a lot of people. Sure realizing my diagnosis gave me a mental breakdown but after it passed I honestly am a lot more normal than a lot of these other divergent fucks. But they constantly try to erase us. They encourage shitty opinion pieces that claim that we're somehow harming people with disabilites (in most cases we are not) or some pity garbage.
For me, since being blind requires no real limited resources, it's not really a problem. Seriously, even you could buy your own cane if you wanted to online. It's not like it's cut off or something. But wheelchairs take up space and that space may be needed for someone who actually is disabled, so you get in a weird issue here. I know some friend-of-a-friend kind of scenarios regarding amp wannabes though and they get so stressed from not being in a wheelchair that they can't function and deliberately harm themselves to stay in a wheelchair. But when they're in the wheelchair, they're like 90% fine. That 10% of course is that pretending to be an amputee isn't exactly really a perfect process obviously, lol.
But we can't even get a diagnosis without going through fucking hoops to get it. I have to explain to my therapists and doctors all of the research I've done on Google Scholar and reading the websites of those who study it and I have to explain to them everything. It's so fucking difficult. I wish I could just go in, the doctor be like, okay, here is your cane, here is your contacts, here is your paperwork and here's your medication or whatever and then I wouldn't have to worry about stupid shit like local ordinances where you can't have a blind cane unless you're legally blind. We don't even seem to have much research at all in the United States its that serious.
Like I don't hate transgender people, like that would be retarded if I did, all things considering. But the way the group functions as a whole makes me want to just throw my face into a wall.
I thought I'd come out of the dark on all of this. I can't really voice my true opinions anywhere on a lot of sites because people are such fucking idiots they won't listen to you. They're such fucking cunts on tumblr you can't fucking lay even a feather on their transgender movement without them going into a complete fucking shitstorm... even though they're fucking hurting us directly. Repeatedly.
Thank you for listening. I really don't know how to express how bound I feel by these radical crazy kids. If you think I'm nuts that's alright, I'm used to it. I try to be a chill person though all things considering.
P.S. I am participating in a study involving a researcher that's been popping up in a lot of articles but honestly based on some of his questions I think he's a bit of a joke. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone studying BIID in the United States, I have to contact researchers in German speaking countries, it's kind of annoying.
Sorry for the bump, I know, but I thought I'd throw out my opinions out there as an actual patient.
From what I know, most people who actually have BIID don't really have anything interesting to post. I know I've had it ever since before I was 10, but I didn't understand what it was and I always thought I was going crazy for wanting to be blind. Blind BIID is a lot rarer than the amputee forms, so amp blogs honestly make me a bit uncomfortable, but all they really post are pictures of amputees. There aren't any real "secret tags" anyone uses from what I've seen. There's nothing there. Usually the people who post those picture blogs don't tag anything, and I very rarely tag my posts on my blog.
I mean, fake SJWs probably have some tag. I wouldn't use it though. If I do tag stuff I usually just tag it with BIID, sometimes "transabled" if I'm talking about that. Fake SJWs do all sorts of stupid shit. Seriously I am so up to here with their shit, it's thanks to them that people don't take my issues seriously.
You wanna know what's waaay funnier? Retarded SJW transgender people trying to claim that it doesn't exist. This trainwreck is my personal favourite, count the special snowflake counters on this guy! Extra points for anything made past 2013 where articles from researchers really started to pick up some steam.
"Transabled" is such a shitty name for what we actually experience, it makes us look like welfare queens. A better description would be "transbodied" - our brains fucked up in understanding how our body physically is so it stresses us out. My condition just basically causes me to close my eyes because I get stressed out by the issue and it resets my brain. Hopefully as I participate in research we can get information and possibly even a treatment option.
I made the blog because when I realized what I had I freaked the hell out and I made it as a way for me to work through shit. I figured if I was just freaking out then it would go away after a few weeks, but it stayed, and I realized just how far I let it go. I go to doctors now and hopefully will be participating in research.
From what I've seen they're honestly normal people, for the most part. Well, outside of the obvious. Most of the community is older and doesn't really bite the SJW bait - in fact I often hear them holding opinions contrary to the SJW narrative. SJWs hate us anyways (we're "ableist") so we don't really care. A lot of them are actually really helpful to people with disabilities in their local communities. In fact, for those who "pretend" in public, you probably would think they were totally normal people. You would probably have no idea until they told you.
To be honest, having BIID has made it really clear to me how fucking terrible the transgender movement is. The "transabled" movement isn't really run by many people, mainly a few weirdos who give us a bad name. There really isn't much of a movement at all, the most of a movement there is is to get us in the DSM-VI, which I think all of us would agree is very reasonable.
Like don't get me wrong, there are freaks among us freaks, oh for sure, and while I haven't found any active English speaking communities, I'm sure there are BIID lolcows. But BIID isn't really an instant lolcow mix, like you'd expect. And the guy who opened up transabled.org in my opinion is kind of like that really obnoxious equivalent in autism or transgender activism who you just wish would SHUT THEIR FUCKING MOUTH.
But seriously back on topic, trans activism. What the hell.
First off, they bitch about how it makes them sad about how theeeey have a disorder and it shouldn't be called a disorder because ooooh nooo it's so terrible! But, then they go around and claim that we're almost inhuman. Uh, hello, last time I fucking checked you want to chop off your penis. They want to chop of their leg. It's the same fucking shit. I swear to god they probably don't get it because their hormones are so fucked or something, I have no idea.
They constantly try to distance themselves from us. They don't want to play in the sandbox with all the other fucking freaks, so they treat us like shit and pretend they're normal. DUDE, YOU'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GIVE YOURSELF A VAGINA, THAT'S NOT NORMAL. JUST FUCKING ACCEPT YOU'RE NOT NORMAL. WE HAVE TO.
And that's the thing that pisses me off. Like, we have to just accept the fact that we're fucking freaks that most of the world wants us fucking dead because of something we can't really do anything about, and we just have to bite the bullet on everything, but transgender people expect the fucking world to go and suck their dysphoric cock. Why? Why do we owe you anything?
It's like when they fucking bitch because they dress like goddamn freaks and people freak out. And I'm not talking like a born male just wearing a dress or something, like I don't give a shit, I'm talking about those retards who go around and dress in all that fucking bullshit and are like OH MY GOD I'M GENDERQUEEER or whatever bullshit. Like, I have trouble walking to my desk in the morning to work some days without closing my eyes, my mind is literally that screwed up, and I can't use a cane, because then I have to explain to every nosey fuck in the company that no, I'm not going blind, yes, I did leave the car and then use a blind cane, I have a disorder that does this or that, yadda yadda. Or I have to lie, and that's a fucking mess. But they expect everyone to fucking just bow to their queerness.
I have to submit to literally everyone around me, I have to fight these urges and they get so intense that I've done (thankfully minor) damage to my eyes. And these people think they can do whatever the fuck they please. It's like that murderer who was like, "but I'm twansgender! I deserve to have an expensive surgery to give me a vagina!"... all while there are many people with serious mental illnesses who. It's like in all seriousness, if I just cracked one day and decided I had to go blind and for some reason I decided to do it through surgery (could just fucking use lasers lol) I wouldn't take it out of anywhere but my own pocket. And honestly if you killed someone you don't fucking deserve anything before people who are, I don't know, actually fucking suffering from real serious terrifying shit, like being schizo.
These people go around and try everything they can to distance themselves from us but, while extremely early, there is some research to suggest they have similarities.
I mean, I accept it! I have to! I'm a freak. I mean, at least I'm a freak with some integrity. My interest in blindness really ends up helping them out, I have a lot of blind friends and they know about my issues and they're fine with it because I'm not a cunt and I don't go around and claim that I'm anything that I'm not. I'm a freak who wants to be blind, whatever, at least you are really good at improving my life in this way or that way that most sighted people don't even give a shit about, that's what they usually say.
My opinion on the condition has changed somewhat since I first started going to doctors for it. I used to have this, "don't fall into that trap, pretending is bad, you need to learn how to just deal with it, ect". But I literally couldn't, and I was terrified, so I think now that pretending is alright if you're not being a douche and actually taking up resources reserved for people who can't. I'm lucky since pretty much the only way I could do this is if I got a service animal or something, but that may honestly be appropriate in my case for the BIID itself.
I mean the thing people need to understand is that when I "pretend", I don't just don glasses and a cane, I have black opaque contacts, I have sunglasses with the insides painted, I know people who use other things like sleeper masks and eye patches. I am actually blind when I'm pretending. I need to because if I don't I have such a horrible feeling I physcially want to blind myself permanently. Fake ass SJWs just do it for attention points, they don't go and spend a hundred dollars for a set of contacts so they can actually blind themselves just to feel normal. Seriously I saw some dumbass actually say "I think I have BIID but it wouldn't be in blindness because I like drawing!", dude BIID doesn't give a fuck.
But I don't really see any of this in the transgender movement. Sure, transgender people and feminists have always had some serious issues with eachother and it's always hiiiilarious, but the transgender movement doesn't seem to have a lot of "charitable" work towards others. It seems to be a very selfish movement and focuses mainly on its own issues to an almost disturbing degree. Like they don't give a shit. I do so much for blind people and it's not out of a fetish or anything, it's because I honestly get hit with a lot of the same stupid shit that they have to put up with. But transgender activism only seems to care about itself.
Like, can you imagine if us BIIDers suddenly came out of the cracks and started yelling at people for not enabling their children interested in disabilities and convinving them that they should be disabled? Can you imagine the fucking shitstorm? But transgender people do this all the fucking time!
Seriously, take any fucking genderspecial or otherkin bitching post and replace it with disability terms and watch the fucking sparks fly.
Not all of them are this much of a douche but the movement itself acts like this.
I mean this behaviour is hurting us. I mentioned that we didn't get it into the DSM-V, which is a fucking nightmare. It means that I am afraid of being diagnosed with some sort of psychosis or something when in reality I'm a lot more stable than a lot of people. Sure realizing my diagnosis gave me a mental breakdown but after it passed I honestly am a lot more normal than a lot of these other divergent fucks. But they constantly try to erase us. They encourage shitty opinion pieces that claim that we're somehow harming people with disabilites (in most cases we are not) or some pity garbage.
For me, since being blind requires no real limited resources, it's not really a problem. Seriously, even you could buy your own cane if you wanted to online. It's not like it's cut off or something. But wheelchairs take up space and that space may be needed for someone who actually is disabled, so you get in a weird issue here. I know some friend-of-a-friend kind of scenarios regarding amp wannabes though and they get so stressed from not being in a wheelchair that they can't function and deliberately harm themselves to stay in a wheelchair. But when they're in the wheelchair, they're like 90% fine. That 10% of course is that pretending to be an amputee isn't exactly really a perfect process obviously, lol.
But we can't even get a diagnosis without going through fucking hoops to get it. I have to explain to my therapists and doctors all of the research I've done on Google Scholar and reading the websites of those who study it and I have to explain to them everything. It's so fucking difficult. I wish I could just go in, the doctor be like, okay, here is your cane, here is your contacts, here is your paperwork and here's your medication or whatever and then I wouldn't have to worry about stupid shit like local ordinances where you can't have a blind cane unless you're legally blind. We don't even seem to have much research at all in the United States its that serious.
Like I don't hate transgender people, like that would be retarded if I did, all things considering. But the way the group functions as a whole makes me want to just throw my face into a wall.
I thought I'd come out of the dark on all of this. I can't really voice my true opinions anywhere on a lot of sites because people are such fucking idiots they won't listen to you. They're such fucking cunts on tumblr you can't fucking lay even a feather on their transgender movement without them going into a complete fucking shitstorm... even though they're fucking hurting us directly. Repeatedly.
Thank you for listening. I really don't know how to express how bound I feel by these radical crazy kids. If you think I'm nuts that's alright, I'm used to it. I try to be a chill person though all things considering.
P.S. I am participating in a study involving a researcher that's been popping up in a lot of articles but honestly based on some of his questions I think he's a bit of a joke. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone studying BIID in the United States, I have to contact researchers in German speaking countries, it's kind of annoying.
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Holy shit you are a fucking exceptional individual. You should go stab your eyes out right now
I can't believe I read all that shit.
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Let's hope these people try to amputate their own limbs and die, removing their defective mental traits from the gene pool. (sorry about the edge)
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tl;dr I want to poke out my eyeballs but boy those trannies are sure freaks ain't they?
/me backs away slowly
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Dude, we're all fucking freaks. Chopping off your dick really isn't much different. You're still fucking up a part of your body, it's just that chopping off your dick has a lot less consequences. I mean there's no fucking way you can deny that either has a disorder.
I thought I made that clear in my OP...
Honestly it's just that our community is a lot smaller and a lot older in their ages so there's a lot less "new stupid" running around, so you don't get the SJW bullshit so much. I mean, you still do, believe me you still do, but you're going to be the laughing stock in the group.
Oh by the way, about 33% of cases don't really have a sexual element. Actually, interestingly all the people I know who have blind BIID have almost no sexual component. Maybe thinking a blind character is hot or having a blind girlfriend but the attraction is to the person, not the blindness.
P.S. Baldwin is an idiot; he's been spamming the fuck out of news sites lately with this transabled bullshit and telling us we should transition and shit. The fucking problem is that I GET why I shouldn't permanently blind myself, I understand quite well, probably a lot more than most people in this thread, why being blind sucks; I just have this stupid part of my brain that insists that I'm supposed to be blind. I really despise people who encourage transitioning, it should only be an absolute last resort because these people sometimes die in their attempts, this is quite rare though and a lot of people are able to cope.
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A few months ago The Science of Us featured a man who really, legitimately wanted to be an amputee. Now I personally can't wrap my head around that at all—it makes much less sense to me than being uncomfortable with your genitals, considering that at least replacing your junk isn't physically crippling—but it seems to be real (if very, very rare). He said that it was not sexual in his case. The guy was really physically active and worked around heavy machinery, which is part of the reason why he never actually chopped it off; the other part was he had a small business and children. Basically he was pretty normal except for the leg thing. I don't know what to make of it.
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Yeah, that's what a lot of these people are like. It's quite strange. I know someone who, because of some chronic hormone illnesses, they would physically get ill if they didn't give themselves some time to obscure their vision and use a cane. This is due to the intense stress of BIID, and they are older and in a more advanced state of the disorder than I am. They is asexual due to these hormone issues and while they're fascinated by blind people (like many BIID patients) they does not fetishize them, they only wish they were blind themselves. And outside of this they're actually pretty normal. Before they got too sick to work they did all sorts of stuff involving medicine and languages. Honestly if you talked to them you would have no idea until they told you.
What the current theory for the general archetype (starts young, progresses slowly, reaches an advanced state around ~40) is that there's a three part model - a neurological element, a "trigger" event (essentially a positive exposure to the disability in question) and in many cases a sexual component (these are the fetists you're talking about). The idea is that there is a vulnerability in some part of the brain that deals with physical identity (as in, how you physically perceive yourself) that, when exposed to the trigger event, causes this to imprint on the person's identity. This is a problem because upon reaching adulthood this issue is ingrained in their identity, although many don't fully realize it yet (it just feels odd to them). source
Blind BIID is very rare, I think the ratio from the communities I know and the few studies I've seen is about 1:150 ish? So for each blind BIID there's 150 motor (para/amp) ones. And there's not a lot of BIID patients either. So nothing is known, it's completely in the air what it could be. The same researcher from above told me he has some theories but nothing has been tested since it's so rare.
I say "general archetype" because BIID like symptoms can occur in a multitude of disorders (ranging from OCD to psychotic episodes to BPD to BDD... it's all over the place), these are not long term things though and they can be managed by meds and stuff. It took me a LONG time to realize I had BIID and honestly if you're younger than 18, unless you've already attempted something you don't have it. BIID doesn't have any real knowledge on treatment, they don't even know everything about it yet. They think there's an element regarding the right pariatal lobe in the amps but nobody really knows for sure. source
The fetists are really fucking creepy though and even where there are communities they're... kind of weird and creepy. Like. I dunno they're just fucking iffy.
well i guess i can't catch em all
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might wanna tl;dr a few posts there duder
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tl;dr we're sane people with an insane problem but we have a disorder and most of us aren't dumbfucks but some are and they're really fucking embarrassing
also fetists are creepy
btw, vocab:
Devotee - Person who is "devoted" to disabled people. Almost always means someone who is sexually attractive to a disabled person. You can be a devotee and not have BIID.
Wannabe - Person who has a desire to be disabled. Usually indicates BIID, sexual or nonsexual. Wannabe is a neutral term, it can refer to people like me who have no sexual component to their BIID or it can refer to people who are sexually attracted to the idea of being disabled.
Pretender/Pretending - Someone who literally pretends to be disabled. This really isn't the same as just fucking around with a cane or a wheelchair, usually the patient will restrict themselves so that they can't move the affected body part (or in my case, can't see out of my eyes). This emulates the disability. In my case it helps me rid of the awful feelings, in sexual BIID I would assume it would get them off (eeeew).
also fetists are creepy
btw, vocab:
Devotee - Person who is "devoted" to disabled people. Almost always means someone who is sexually attractive to a disabled person. You can be a devotee and not have BIID.
Wannabe - Person who has a desire to be disabled. Usually indicates BIID, sexual or nonsexual. Wannabe is a neutral term, it can refer to people like me who have no sexual component to their BIID or it can refer to people who are sexually attracted to the idea of being disabled.
Pretender/Pretending - Someone who literally pretends to be disabled. This really isn't the same as just fucking around with a cane or a wheelchair, usually the patient will restrict themselves so that they can't move the affected body part (or in my case, can't see out of my eyes). This emulates the disability. In my case it helps me rid of the awful feelings, in sexual BIID I would assume it would get them off (eeeew).
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that'll do it
i do believe BIID exists to an extent. but is a lot different than transgenderism.
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I've met people with a lot of strange problems on the internet, but your predicament is uniquely terrifying. I don't even know how you get up in the morning if you have to put up with unexplainable feelings like that. Stay strong bro.
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I think the causes are different, but they function similarly enough to be both considered identity disorders. I personally believe they function on different parts of the brain, but a LOT of BIID patients have gender dysphoria, including myself (I'm not trans, it's just a little). I honestly think they're different, and I've seen a blog who said they have BIID and GID and they also said it was two different sensations. So there may be a root cause that may cross some sort of line that can trigger both, but they affect different parts of the brain. Here's a pilot study on that matter here
Either way, I think both offer interesting insight into how identity develops. A lot of people think that identity = gender; just look at tumblr. But we also forget how we mentally interpret our physical self, how we know where are arms are, how we can see or hear. This is also a part of our identity because it's literally how we view our own bodies. If it turns out to be physical, it could lead to all sorts of interesting discoveries about such an abstract part of our brains.
Honestly it's hard to describe but since it's constant it's most times like a dull annoyance, like you'll twitch your eyes to try to get rid of it. And being blind honestly isn't terrifying for me, it's annoying because I don't have a ton of training yet and I'm not in a situation where I could be *ugh* "Blind-Passing" (damn I feel unkosher) but it's almost like my brain wasn't programmed with a reaction to it. Other shit can make it get bad, it goes in waves and if you have other shit like depression and anxiety it can really fuck you up.
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How would you know? You are not blind.
I hate to say this, but you have privilege here. Many people are born blind and live their whole lives without having the gift that you want to get rid of.
Saying that a terrible, potentially life crippling problem is "annoying" when you aren't even capable of comprehending it is ridiculous.
Just do it man, stab your eyes out right now.
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It's kind of weird that you feel that way, the blind people in my life have no issue with it. I was pretty surprised honestly, they're kind of curious about it themselves.
I don't understand permanent blindness. In fact, the fact that I wasn't born blind sometimes frustrates me because I never can understand the world from a fully auditory or tactile view. The concept of being permanently blind completely fucks with my brain, the desire is intense but the fear and the understanding of others' perception is so destructive. I try not to ever think of it.
People who are born blind have no perception of what life with vision would be like. Their entire life they have no idea what they are missing. They understand that they cannot do certain things because of their disability that others can, but at the same time, this is their experience, this is what they know. I mean, it's not roses and candy but it's who they are. Honestly, what is far more destructive to blind people is how the public treats them, and that's something I regularly attempt to reverse.
A lot of what actually makes my "gift" a gift is that it allows me to do things that blind people can't do. But these issues are not insurmountable. 200 years ago, blind people couldn't read. 35 years ago, most blind people couldn't use a computer. Blind people can't drive, but we're building self driving cars. A lot of what blind people face is because of the fact that we, as sighted people, tell them what they can and cannot do, and do not understand what their life is like. We fail to understand their needs and ascribe our own expectations of what it feels like to be blind, because we fear such a radically different and difficult life. Blindness is a disability that is, with technological advancements, closing the gap between the disabled and the able bodied surprisingly quickly. The problem is that sighted people, who produce most content, don't understand their needs, and can't help accommodate both worlds.
People talk so much about curing the blind, but the truth is that there are so many ways you can go blind. You can lose your eyes physically, you can have cataracts, you can have glaucoma, which destroys your retina and optic nerve, you could have scratching on your cornea, your lens could be destroyed, your retina could detatch, you could have your optic nerve cut, or removed from your eyes or the back of your head. There is no way we will be able to cure all forms of blindness in any blind person's current lifetime. Yes, finding a cure is important, and shouldn't be stopped, but why are we dropping the ball on accessibility? Why do we assume that when we are one step closer to a cure that suddenly providing accessibility isn't important?
I can't speak for people who lost their vision later in life. I know many who have, and don't mind who I am. I honestly feel horrible that I have these feelings, I felt guilty for years because I felt like I was somehow destroying something they would kill for. And honestly, if I could, I would give my retinas to 2 babies born with leber's congenital amaurosis or something like that so they could have that for themselves. But for me, it is destroying me mentally. I can't explain it to someone who can't experience it, it's like having something that doesn't belong.
I may be the worst kind of person to you, and I can't ever change that, but I can do the best with what I have. I am not blind, but I understand what many blind people go through, because I put opaque contacts in my eyes. I know how to cook, use a computer, use a cane, all sorts of things that blind people do. I'm learning braille. And my blind friend, training to be an O&M instructor, will teach me how to improve my skills while practicing his teaching skills for a future job. For me, learning these things is invigorating and I enjoy doing it, and it's always a fascinating experience because it's so different than what you expect. I am aware of the way that they do things, and with that knowledge, I can make it better. I am a programmer, I can improve computer accessibility.
If I were to go the full mile and become the person who sets the standards in computer accessibility, I have the potential to improve the quality of life for over 2 million people in the US. People lose their jobs over this shit, they lose their ability to be independent. I could give that back. I've already written accessible software and I'm a respected developer in the blind community. I can educate sighted people on what blind people actually believe and inform sighted people of issues that affect them, such as US cash being unreadable without technology or how credit card swipers are not consistent or accessible. These are issues that affect blind people every day, this is what is harming their well being, not someone who has a mental problem. So the fuck what if the reason why I'm doing it is because I want to be like them. I can take what I have and help others too.
I know that you don't agree with me and that's fair enough, but I can't say that I didn't try to do the best I could with what I have. I won't blind myself because I know that I have a unique niche that can literally change thousands of people's lives.
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I don't know if this is really a "movement" and a lot of times it's not a fetish. One of my classes in college focused on this a bit and as far as I could tell, these are somewhat mentally ill people, many of whom seek out doctors who will perform amputations on them for years. Naturally very few of them find doctors willing to perform these incredibly dangerous and illegal operations, so some will self-perform. I remember one guy telling doctors over and over if he didn't get help, he'd self-amputate, and he ended up doing it and found a way to get rid of the limb or something so they couldn't re-attach it. After they amputate, they feel incredibly relieved, like they are in the body they were meant to be in. They aren't like "oh god what I have done." I'm not sure how many seek therapy beforehand or how effective that is for them. It's some kind of mental issue, I don't know what it is but I don't think they are lolcows or they are all fetishists. I know it's easy to tie this kind of thing to Tumblr but I don't think it's really new or anything.