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[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

So Cyberpunk: Edgerunners was released and there's a certain character named Rebecca that ended up becoming a very popular fan favorite.
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However she wasn't intended to be a part of the anime as CDPR didn't think a loli character would fit in too well in the setting of Night City. Trigger insisted that she must stay or that they weren't making the anime. And there's a video to prove it.

Once certain people found out about this they went into copium overdrive and started whining about how she isn't a totally isn't a loli but petite instead. Also Rebecca is an adult which made them seethe even harder because these people actually believed that loli characters have to be underaged. It's the funniest thing I've witnessed in years.

The thing is, CDPR's criticism doesn't even make sense. Cyberpunk is the exact kind of setting that I would expect to see a scantily clad, gun toting loli. She doesn't actually look all that out character for the setting at all.

 

[Least Concern]

Once certain people found out about this they went into copium overdrive and started whining about how she isn't a totally isn't a loli but petite instead. Also Rebecca is an adult which made them seethe even harder because these people actually believed that loli characters have to be underaged. It's the funniest thing I've witnessed in years.

I haven't seen the show, so what exactly is the controversy? Is she sexualized at all, or is her mere existence annoying people?

 

[Corn Flakes]

I haven't seen the show, so what exactly is the controversy? Is she sexualized at all, or is her mere existence annoying people?

See for yourself:

Me, I just can't see her as a "loli". Yeah, she's short and has small tits but she's 100% a punk and she acts like one, plus her default outfit is very baggy. Nothing about her is made to be alluring. And she gets horribly killed like most characters in that show.

That's why agreeing on a concrete definition of just what the fuck is a loli beyond just "a character that reminds me of a child in some way" is important. Otherwise you have the Sorceress from Dragon's Crown being called "lolicon bait".

 

[Saffronette]

I mean, this whole slapfight is silly as hell but it does depend on what the definition of "loli" is. Which no one actually ever presents when making an argument. So it's usually just assholes talking past one another.

This might come as a surprise but lolis are mostly a character archetype and adult characters being described as one isn't uncommon (Like Tasumaki from One Punch Man). In fact the first character to be given the loli moniker was Clarisse from Lupin the 3rd who's already 18 years old. Her design paved the way for the loli boom of the 80s. So yes, it's a lot more varied than what people think. Not every single loli has to be an underage schoolgirl or thousands of years old.

I haven't seen the show, so what exactly is the controversy? Is she sexualized at all, or is her mere existence annoying people?

Yes she is quite sexualized since she mostly wears a bikini with an oversized hoodie and fondles a guy's crotch in her very first appearance. Also it's implied she's a sex worker due to the tattoo she has on her neck which is similar to the Mox logo.

As described: "The Mox are relatively small, non-territorial, and consist of of mostly sex workers, anarchists, punks, and sexual minorities. Formed in 2067 in the interest of mutual self-defense purposes, their name comes from the old slang term "moxie," denoting their determination to stand up against their oppressors."

And even with Trigger officially calling her a loli you still have people in disbelief and flogging themselves for being attracted to her.

Spoiler: Twittards Coping

 

[KorokiKokoro]

Speaking of Rebecca, BreadTube lolcow Xanderhal is beefing with Rev says desu by calling him a pedophile and trying to claim that Rebecca is actually a short adult and not a loli even though Trigger themselves have called her one.

Xanderhal's Tweet | Archive
Rev's Tweet | Archive

 

[jertzog]

It's an amusing inversion of their usual MO when the character is just a "short adult" in something they really like and don't want to see damaged. Or that they're already masturbating to the character and have to live in total denial. I remember reading some hardcore copium on GAF or thereabouts speculating that the main character in Kill La Kill would become less scantily clad with further powerups as the series progressed.
In reality, a regular person would approach the universal compromise that "it's just a cartoon".

 

[I Love Beef]

The thing is, CDPR's criticism doesn't even make sense. Cyberpunk is the exact kind of setting that I would expect to see a scantily clad, gun toting loli. She doesn't actually look all that out character for the setting at all.

The kind of whiners we're dealing with are either the insufferable end of oldfag anime "elites" who can't grow up from the 1980s/1990s or tumblr/anime twitter morality squads. Said oldfags are addicted to strict self inflated conventions that all cyberpunk must be like Ghost In The Shell, Akira, or a true 1980s anime recreation of Blade Runner, while the latter essentially describe themselves, a bunch of young turks gung ho about "gender rights!" and "lolis = underage b&!", but all tend to overlap and have closets full of shit that are waiting to burst out.

 

[Least Concern]

Speaking of Rebecca, BreadTube lolcow Xanderhal is beefing with Rev says desu by calling him a pedophile and trying to claim that Rebecca is actually a short adult and not a loli even though Trigger themselves have called her one.

He's right, though, at least by what I would have thought anyone would have meant by the word "loli." Okay, Trigger used the word, fine, but I have no clue what they meant by it unless they were using it very, very broadly.

From the clips posted upthread, the character is clearly not portrayed as a child in either the normal sense or the "9000-year-old dragon" sense, so the whole controversy is just dumb and I'm tired of it already. But clickbaiters gotta clickbait I suppose.

 

[Corn Flakes]

The problem with Trigger using the word "loli" is that in Japan the word refers far more to an aesthetic than what the character actually is. Hence why the 9-year old lolis (to many to count), the 17 year old lolis (E.g. Kanata from Lucky Star), the 21 year old lolis (all the [adjective]-lolita cosplayers), and the 800 year old lolitas (again, too many to count) all exist and all get called lolis. Also why being called a "lolicon" means you're more considered weird than an outright criminal pedophile, even though that's what it gets translated to in the West.

That's why I said that this whole thing is pointless because nobody is talking about the same thing. It's actually what fuels most of the lolicon vs. crusader slapfights. And, to be honest, it's what I find the most amusing about it. The two sides have such vastly different points of reference to what a loli even is, and that's not even getting into whatever legal status they might be arguing, that it inevitably devolves into an furball of wild accusations and insults that's just great to watch with a bucket of popcorn on your lap.

 

[Nova Prime]

XanderNeanderhal is so much of a self-righteous faggot that he sincerely believes he is helping real children by malding over loli drawings. If he gave an actual shit about helping children he'd be trying to bust pedos in Discord or Twitter, but he instead chooses to go after drawings and the people that like them. He'd rather get internet updoots targetting Rev than put in effort against the scumbags targeting real children. Absolute waste of time.

 

[KorokiKokoro]

I just want some damn consistency from these people, there's ample enough room for people to suggest Rebecca isn't a loli despite Trigger's word but despite this all we get is people reposting the same definition about age over and over again as if it isn't inherently flawed (Dizzy from Guilty Gear would be a loli if this were true.)

Like how am I supposed to believe the same crowd who went after characters like Uzaki for having a "childlike" design are now suddenly changing tune when a character who looks more like a child than her starts getting popular., it's just so exhausting.

 

[Starved Artist]

That's why agreeing on a concrete definition of just what the fuck is a loli beyond just "a character that reminds me of a child in some way" is important. Otherwise you have the Sorceress from Dragon's Crown being called "lolicon bait".

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Anyway, chalk it up to Poe's Law and people failing to understand what projection is. The most rabid lolicon hater is probably a real pedophile, the most rabid lolicon defender is probably into worse things that pedoshit and lolishit.

I wanted to get back to collaging profiles with the MAP tag and seeing how many pop into the real/unreal and crunch some numbers with how many are trannies and so on and so on - to debate but Twitter has decided that everything has to be about Ukraine for some reason, again.

I fucking hate Twitter and I don't feel like wading through the porn tags to find these people again. Edit: Never mind. Just hopped on the anime tag and jesus fucking christ,.

 

[John Titor]

This might come as a surprise but lolis are mostly a character archetype and adult characters being described as one isn't uncommon (Like Tasumaki from One Punch Man). In fact the first character to be given the loli moniker was Clarisse from Lupin the 3rd who's already 18 years old. Her design paved the way for the loli boom of the 80s. So yes, it's a lot more varied than what people think. Not every single loli has to be an underage schoolgirl or thousands of years old.
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Spoiler: Twittards Coping

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To compound the confusion, lolita fashion has nothing to do with lolicon and they picked the word because it emphasized youth.

Also no, loli isn't illegal. If a drawing is a criminal act, the South Park guys should have been thrown in the slammer a long time ago.

 

[Saffronette]

To compound the confusion, lolita fashion has nothing to do with lolicon and they picked the word because it emphasized youth.

Also no, loli isn't illegal. If a drawing is a criminal act, the South Park guys should have been thrown in the slammer a long time ago.

Shows like South Park get a pass because it's comedic. It's not meant to be sexually appealing but shocking instead. I do think western shows get a lot of leeway because the characters are often goofy looking and the premise is ridiculous. However, I have been seeing people complaining about the incest jokes in Rick and Morty lately. Out of all the weird shit that happens in the show, they take issue with Beth getting sexual with her clone?

I do question the merits of those who want to make loli illegal because I don't think they're actually concerned about the well-being of real children. It's basically deflection from anti types so that no one notices their own creepy behavior towards kids. People are always going to be posting disgusting art online and trying to regulate it will be a fruitless venture. It doesn't actually help any victims when you try to get someone arrested over Lucky Star porn.

 

[Pizza Parker's Pizza Time]

I do question the merits of those who want to make loli illegal because I don't think they're actually concerned about the well-being of real children. It's basically deflection from anti types so that no one notices their own creepy behavior towards kids. People are always going to be posting disgusting art online and trying to regulate it will be a fruitless venture. It doesn't actually help any victims when you try to get someone arrested over Lucky Star porn.

I do think that's one of the main camps that love to parrot this shit. And sadly (at least on Twitter afaik) they have the persistent support of people who are either:

• hardcore traditionalist/religious types who think that anyone who's legally an adult and still watches any kind of cartoon is a pedophile.
• terminally online clout-chasers who most likely know this is bullshit but also know that it's the current thing and that parroting it will get them likes and RTs.
• zoomers and actual dentheads who are dumb enough to believe and parrot this nonsense and who probably shouldn't be on the internet to begin with.

 

[Saffronette]

Apologies in advance if this is unrelated, but LS Mark did a video on this expressing his disdain for "problematic incest jokes" in a show were weird fetish shit happens fairly often. I'm not an avid watcher of Rick and Morty, but I'm pretty sure that other shows on Adult Swim have made incest jokes as well. And while I can see why this would make people uncomfortable, I find it really strange they draw the line at this? There's people in the comments saying that they're worried about other fans shipping the other family members together because of certain scenes.

It just seems to me that there's really immature adults watching this show and not grasping the fact that adult shows can have taboo things in them. I thought that Metalocalypse was shocking back then so I feel that this is really tame in comparison. Like no joke I even saw NSFW artists on twitter having a mental breakdown over this.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I do question the merits of those who want to make loli illegal because I don't think they're actually concerned about the well-being of real children. It's basically deflection from anti types so that no one notices their own creepy behavior towards kids. People are always going to be posting disgusting art online and trying to regulate it will be a fruitless venture. It doesn't actually help any victims when you try to get someone arrested over Lucky Star porn.

It's easy to virtue signal and bitch about something online and then feel good about pretending to have done something.

It's a lot harder to face the fact that real child sexual abuse is far too frequent and there is fuck-all most of us can do about it because the relevant authorities are either overworked, understaffed, apathetic, or in on it.

 

[Colon capital V]

Apologies in advance if this is unrelated, but LS Mark did a video on this expressing his disdain for "problematic incest jokes" in a show were weird fetish shit happens fairly often. I'm not an avid watcher of Rick and Morty, but I'm pretty sure that other shows on Adult Swim have made incest jokes as well. And while I can see why this would make people uncomfortable, I find it really strange they draw the line at this? There's people in the comments saying that they're worried about other fans shipping the other family members together because of certain scenes.

It just seems to me that there's really immature adults watching this show and not grasping the fact that adult shows can have taboo things in them. I thought that Metalocalypse was shocking back then so I feel that this is really tame in comparison. Like no joke I even saw NSFW artists on twitter having a mental breakdown over this.

Bigger problem is the fact that some of the incest jokes are just unfunny. Like, I wouldn't mind it as much (and probably wouldn't have cared if Dan or the writers are yanking it to this) if it was executed better and/or wasn't such a common occurrence atm.

 

[74164978231]

A lot of platforms like 4chan and many hentai websites have hosted this content for decades and never gotten any major legal issues because the glowies don't give two shits about this, they mostly want to go after the real thing at this point.

"loli"/underage R34 isnt illegal in the US.

So Cyberpunk: Edgerunners was released and there's a certain character named Rebecca that ended up becoming a very popular fan favorite.
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However she wasn't intended to be a part of the anime as CDPR didn't think a loli character would fit in too well in the setting of Night City. Trigger insisted that she must stay or that they weren't making the anime. And there's a video to prove it.

Once certain people found out about this they went into copium overdrive and started whining about how she isn't a totally isn't a loli but petite instead. Also Rebecca is an adult which made them seethe even harder because these people actually believed that loli characters have to be underaged. It's the funniest thing I've witnessed in years.

70% of the R34 for Edgerunners consists of Rebecca;

Funny how the main love interest which is actually shown naked in the show, or the other major female character besides lucy/rebecca which is also show naked multiple times arent the most popular.

In a vacuum Rebecca isnt a loli character and makes sense in the universe of Cyberpunk, but lets be real she is. Shes the stereotypical anime loli; cute innocent looking little girl that is actually a 10000 year old foul mouthed badass.

 

[Corn Flakes]

70% of the R34 for Edgerunners consists of Rebecca;

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Funny how the main love interest which is actually shown naked in the show, or the other major female character besides lucy/rebecca which is also show naked multiple times arent the most popular.

In a vacuum Rebecca isnt a loli character and makes sense in the universe of Cyberpunk, but lets be real she is. Shes the stereotypical anime loli; cute innocent looking little girl that is actually a 10000 year old foul mouthed badass.

If you look at all the fanart of Rebecca, it's pretty clear she's popular despite her body type. Most erotic fanart (including the most popular pieces, check link at your own peril) fills her out and gives her at least medium-sized boobs. The artists like the character, but don't feel like drawing lolicon. Likewise there's plenty of demand for her but from more than just lolicons, hence 90% of her fanart being off-model.

People like Rebecca because she's a loudmouth and easily the most interesting/amusing character in the whole fucking show. Yeah, lolicons are into her because she's got the right build (although she's missing the right "personality" for many lolicons), but she could be 7 feet tall with balloon tits and she'd be just as popular then. Actually, seeing how people reacted to Lady Dimitrescu from the new Resident Evil, I'd wager she'd be even more popular like that.