🐱 The unstoppable queering of kids’ cartoons

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In Episode 6 of the animated series Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts, Kipo and Benson are riding a ferris wheel. “I think I like you,” Kipo says shyly, looking up from under her baby-pink bangs as the music swells. “Oh! Oh. Oh,” says Benson. The music cuts abruptly. “You should know something,” he says. “I’m gay.”

Kipo is momentarily embarrassed. “I’m glad we’re friends,” she manages, and they share a hug. Then a giant two-headed flamingo shows up. Kipo and Benson are still friends, and they clearly have more important things to do than discuss Benson’s love of boys.


It’s been a banner year for queer all-age animation like Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts—and we’re only halfway through 2020. So far, Benson is one of the first cartoon characters to say the words “I’m gay.”Meanwhile, Scooby-Doo! creators confirmed Velma is a lesbian, and Nickelodeon put SpongeBob SqaurePants in their Pride post(according to a 15-year-old interview, SpongeBob is “somewhat asexual,” an important part of the LGBTQ2 community).


Granted, cartoons have been queer for a long time. Japanese animated shows have always been willing to play with gender—as is obvious by the Wikipedia entry of LGBTQ characters in animation—but Western media has taken longer to warm up to the idea. Part of that is because cartoons in Japan aren’t marketed to children the same way they are in the West. Content for children was subject to censorship: The English dubs of late 1990s and early 2000s shows like Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakurastripped out all queer content, preferring to cut episodes or entire seasons rather than hint at what some TV execs deemed provocative themes.

That these displays of queerness have persisted in animation can be attributed to the medium’s relative fluidity: There’s a freedom in drawing—to create people and worlds that don’t look like the ones we normally inhabit, who can change from frame to frame. This lack of rules means, as writer and animator Paul Wells (no relation) writes, “the body in animation is a form constantly in flux.” Bugs Bunny gained eyelashes when in drag, and Mulan’s jaw became magically squarer when she presented as Ping. Emma A. Jane, in a paper about Adventure Time, writes that “the usual ‘laws’ of gender binaries—like the usual laws of physics—simply do not apply.” In cartoon worlds where characters control fire, explore space or wield magic swords, why should the real world’s cis-heteronormative assumptions apply either?


That may be, in part, why the last decade has seen an unprecedented shift in queer representation in kids’ cartoons. And as animated shows tackle more complex issues, more adults are drawn to them. Shows for all ages are also often gentler and kinder than properties made for grown-ups: You expect the good guys to win in the end, and that bad things will get better. Queer people have always been reading characters as queer, even when they’re not, because we want to exist in these universes. Seeing ourselves reflected back in kid-friendly spaces is a reminder that we, in our messy adolescences and baby-gay childhoods, always belonged here.



In 2014, gifs of Korra and Asami from The Legend of Korra (2012 to 2014) overran fan blogs on Tumblr. The final shot of the show—illustrating the two women holding hands and staring into each other’s eyes—was confirmed as a canonical depiction of a same-sex relationship on the show’s co-creator Bryan Konietzko’s blog. Vanity Fair later said the episode “changed the face of TV” as the first same-sex romance in all-ages animation. While that accolade might be hyperbolic (plenty of other non-Western shows did so well before The Legend of Korra), the showrunners knew the network was reticent to let them show anything overtly queer. “Was it a slam-dunk victory for queer representation?… Hopefully it is a somewhat significant inching forward,” Konietzko wrote.

Around the same time, Steven Universe (2013 to 2019) was pushing the envelope for queer representation in cartoons. The main character, Steven, and his father are the only major male characters on a show full of women (and female-coded, genderless space aliens). While Korra and Asami are queer characters in a straight show, Steven Universe is a queer show, full stop. The show began by promoting the very queer notion of found families—Steven is raised by three moms—and gradually got more queer as episodes progressed. By 2015, Steven Universehad introduced an intersex non-binary character(Stevonnie, a fusion of Steven and his best friend Connie), and revealed that stoic mom Garnet was a fusion of two gems, Sapphire and Ruby. Pearl, the most Virgo of Steven’s moms, was also in love with his now-dead mother.

Like The Legend of Korra, there were hurdles in production. Rebecca Sugar, the non-binary bisexual creator of Steven Universe, expressed in an interview with EW in 2018 just how tough it was to get a queer cartoon on the air: “Please know that when we started doing this in 2011 it was impossible and it has become possible over the last many years of working really hard to do this.”


But unlike The Legend of Korra—or even Adventure Time’s final episode kiss between Marceline and Princess Bubblegum—same-sex romance wasn’t crammed into the season finale. Steven Universe is full of thoughtful queer interactions, with a multitude of relationships showing the different kinds of love through the entire course of the show. Ruby and Sapphire’s wedding had an entire storyline of its own. In every scene afterwards, Garnet’s shown wearing a wedding ring on each hand—a reminder that she’s literally made of love. Even beyond character representation, the show is deeply queer: Problems are resolved with communication and empathy rather than violence, and toxic masculinity doesn’t exist. There’s even an academic book, “Representation in Steven Universe,” dedicated to analyzing the show’s portrayal of queerness, race and colonialism.


Following in Steven Universe’s footsteps, She-Ra and The Princesses of Power (2018 to 2020) is both a continually queer show and one with a Big Gay Finale. Tech archer Bow has two loving Black dads; butch icon Scorpia has two (dead) moms; side characters Spinnerella and Netossa are a married lesbian couple who kiss on-screen in Season 5; and almost every character expresses interest in their same-sex cohorts. Princess Perfuma stares wide-eyed at every muscled woman she meets, while Bow swoons over dashing mustachioed sailor Sea Hawk. A non-binary shapeshifter called Double Trouble, voiced by non-binary powerhouse Jacob Tobia, is responsible for most of the plot in the fourth season. Magic is drawn as glowing rainbows.


At the core of the She-Ra, though, is the push-and-pull between brave jock Adora and her childhood best friend Catra. In the first episode, Adora leaves the evil Horde and joins the rebellion to free the planet, while Catra stays behind and rises through the ranks. The storyline has a Killing Eve tension, where two powerful women circle each other, fighting as a proxy for making out. Catra eventually joins the good guys in the final season. The climax of the entire show is an anguished declaration of love: Adora is in the throes of a deathbed fever dream, and Catra is wrapped around her. “Don’t you get it? I love you,” Catra says through tears. “I always have. So please, just this once, stay.” Their kiss is literal magic: Rainbow energy erupts across the screen. Their love saves the universe. For a show so comfortable with same-sex characters, of course there was no other way for it to end than in life-saving lesbianism.


Like Steven Universe, She-Ra is helmed by a queer person: Non-binary lesbian Noelle Stevenson. Stevenson credits Sugar with breaking boundaries: “Steven Universe changed the landscape of animated shows when it first hit the air.” While queer people can, of course, make very heterosexual art, we are drawn to putting stories into the world that we are missing—and often that means queer ones.


Even more recently, The Owl House—steered by openly bisexual showrunner Dana Terrace—is making waves as the first Disney Channel cartoon to have a queer main character. “I’m bi! I want to write a bi character, dammit!” Terrace tweeted, hinting that the romance between green-haired witch Amity and earnest dork Luz will see more development.

That’s not to say all cartoons have nailed representation. Gay male characters are few and far between: Voltron made a popular character, Shiro, gay, but subsequently removed all his friendships with men in case they were perceived as romantic instead of platonic. The showrunners also killed his boyfriend off-screenand had Shiro marry a background character in the series finale as a half-hearted attempt at making amends. In Arthur, teacher Mr. Ratburn got married, but his husband hasn’t been seen in any episodes since. Disney’s Gravity Falls also features gay cops Blubs and Durland; but their relationship was confirmed in the final episode when the network “wouldn’t have to deal” with the showrunner anymore. And while Adam, the main character of The Hollow, is gay, he came out to explain why he isn’t interested in a girl—and doesn’t seem into any boys.


There’s also a dearth of trans characters. Non-binary characters—like She-Ra’s reptilian Double Trouble and Steven Universe’s human-gem fusion Stevonnie and even Adventure Time’s sentient games console BMO—are overwhelmingly non-human, making their nonconformity more acceptable than if they were human. (Steven Universe does have a non-binary guest character in its final season, voiced by Indya Moore.) The most notable binary trans character, Jewelstar in She-Ra, is trans by subtext: He’s based on a character who was female in the ’80s version of the show and is voiced by trans man Alex Blue Davis for the single episode he appears in.


While TV continues to grow more diverse, there’s a special place in my heart for cartoons. They can tell difficult, complex and nuanced stories without milking queerness for pain. We don’t have to see queer characters in all-ages shows die tragically young, or be forcibly outed or disowned by their families, or any of the other terrible things that happen to too many of us in real life that we see turned into stock tropes on the screen. Steven Universe deals with mental illness and grief, She-Ra with parental abuse and unhealthy expectations, The Legend of Korra with fascism and imperialism—but characters’ trauma isn’t rooted in their queerness.

As Heather Hogan writes for Autostraddle, LGBTQ2 people need all-ages representation because “we come of age over and over… our lives don’t exist on the same kind of timeline as straight people.” So while queer kids get to grow up with more characters as their role models, so do we. We get more and more characters to hold close to our shining rainbow-magic hearts, too.
 
The Q stands for queer but keep in mind that the Q doesn't belong there to begin with (and I'm not so sure the T should either) and trust me, most of the gays I know IRL and online don't like the word queer, especially when used in a pretentious academic context like the Woke Left often does. The only people who use the word queer unironically are troons, "non-binary" Tumblr SJW's, and the more hipster-inclined woke dykes.

If you see an actual gay or bisexual guy (who's not an SJW) or a lesbian or bisexual woman who's not an SJW or dangerhair use the word "queer" then it's probably either in a joking context or as an ironic term of affection. I've only seen the troons, enby fakers, and SJW's use it in a serious context. It's so pretentious and creepy.

There's a reason why I only use LGBT and not "LGBTQ", The "TQ" are a cancer upon the LGB.
Like there isn’t a show on Netflix called “Queer Eye”
The show is about queers being able to look at problems “differently” and thus being able to fix it. The irony of it all is that we were supposed to treat them all as the same and look where the slippery slope got us.
 
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Like there isn’t a show on Netflix called “Queer Eye”
The show is about queers being able to look at problems “differently” and thus being able to fix it. The irony of it all is that we were supposed to treat them all as the same and look where the slippery slope got us.

Don't remind me about how the Woke Left hijacked the actual issues that LGB people had to deal with and made the slippery slope a real thing. The sad part is that the original "Queer Eye" show was more of a fashion-related reality show and the term queer was used ironically. It wasn't really meant to be anything more than goofy early 2000's reality TV shtick.
 
I'm confused as to why they just don't go out and explicitly make cartoons that are marketed at the Tumblr millennial crowd outright instead of pretending to be an actual children's show.

Because there isn't enough sustainability when your market is 2% of the population. There aren't enough genuine woke people to support a cartoon show because most people clamoring for one just want to virtue signal, they don't actually watch. And those who DO want to watch it, the true and honest woke, are also so broke/socially maladjusted FROM being woke that they can't support it through buys of merchandise, or, if it's pay-to-watch, will just pirate at it without a care because it's not really stealing if you're just getting your representation! They don't want to spend money to keep it going, that's everyone else's job, expecting THEM to buy stuff is discrimination! TL : DR - Those who have the money and say the want it, won't watch. Those who want it and WILL watch don't have the money or don't feel they should have to cough any up... they should be getting their worship for FREE.


The reason this stuff is bleeding into cartoons is that the plan to guilt-shame you into watching entertainment you have no interest in because social justice says YOU have to support marginalized people by becoming a surrogate audience since they can't support it on their own, failed to do anything. Though you still see it pushed every time a woke show gets cancelled or movie bombs - WHY DIDN'T NORMIES SUPPORT THIS?! THEY ARE BEING BIGOTS BY NOT WATCHING BECAUSE IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE THAT WOKENESS DOESN'T WORK! AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN HOLLYWOOD WON'T MAKE MY KIND OF SHOW! - it ultimately goes nowhere because hard=working people won't separate with their bucks in some kind of entertainment-welfare scheme.

But since "cartoons R for kidz" they feel that nobody will notice if they inject their fetishes into kids shows and support it though the peddling of plastic trinkets that kids will pester Mom and Dad to buy. And if it DOES get noticed, well, call everyone complaining a -phobe or saying that they're conspiracy theorists if they think "a harmless kids show" is promoting sex.....

They're also doing cartoons now because that's the next "viable" medium after they burned down comic books and were gamergated out of vidya.
 
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But since "cartoons R for kidz" they feel that nobody will notice if they inject their fetishes into kids shows and support it though the peddling of plastic trinkets that kids will pester Mom and Dad to buy. And if it DOES get noticed, well, call everyone complaining a -phobe or saying that they're conspiracy theorists if they think "a harmless kids show" is promoting sex.....

Worst part is that you did have cartoonists and writers try and hide kinks and fetishes into kids' shows back in the day but it was always meant to be under the radar so kids wouldn't really be affected by it and was usually some kind of an inside joke like with all the double entendres in Rocko's Modern Life or Cow & Chicken or it happened to be so ridiculous that most people wouldn't notice it was a fetish unless you were a total honest-to-goodness denegerate or spent way too much time online like with Totally Spies

This is a lot more brazen and it's not meant as a joke, but to instead be the Woke Leftist version of Chick Tracts.

I'd say that Adventure Time was the first show to really gain traction for this kind of fandom on Tumblr while Korra was probably the first one to openly acknowledge the "queer" bullshit, even if it was just a publicity stunt for the series finale (kinda like when Boomhauer turned out to be a Texas Ranger or when Fry wrote an opera after making a deal with the Robot Devil)
 
Friendly reminder that Rebecca Sugar is a straight cis woman married to a straight cis man and that she drew cartoon child porn of Ed, Edd n Eddy.
She even wore the basic bitch white wedding dress.
I’ll respect the queering of cartoons when it’s done by actual queers and not cis straight (((white))) women larping as trans enby demisexuals.
 
You know what's kind of funny? For decades the "progressive" Left has been ramming it down everyone's throats how important diversity is, how being inclusive and accepting of everyone regardless of race, sexuality, gender, religion, etc. makes us a greater society. But once they found themselves in positions where they could start influencing pop culture they all began making the same kind of character. And the shows they are making are all so samey-same, from the art, to the shitty humor, to the preachy, agenda-driven plot. If diversity is so awesome then why is everything virtually identical now? You know how they say the Left can't meme? It's because they always put the agenda first, then have to show how intellectual they are, and the humor is always an afterthought if it's included at all. Well, the same sentiment goes for cartoons, and for the same reasons.

Cartoons were so much better when they were just trying to brainwash kids into bugging their parents to buy them toys. The old toy-driven cartoons of my childhood in the 80s had some really great people on their productions, and they had to because they WERE selling toys. You had to catch the kids' interest and make them want to have the toys so they could act out all their favorite scenes with them. So the characters (toys) had to have distinctive personalities and memorable back stories that the kids would remember. Now cartoons are just trying to brainwash kids into being gay or trans. Some elements of the Left are already trying to normalize pedophilia, so how long will it be until they start making cartoons where the underage main character has a totally normal and healthy (and if you say otherwise you're a bigot and a Nazi) relationship with their MtF trans neighbor who doesn't have a job and lives with their aging mother?
 
Worst part is that you did have cartoonists and writers try and hide kinks and fetishes into kids' shows back in the day but it was always meant to be under the radar so kids wouldn't really be affected by it and was usually some kind of an inside joke like with all the double entendres in Rocko's Modern Life or Cow & Chicken or it happened to be so ridiculous that most people wouldn't notice it was a fetish unless you were a total honest-to-goodness denegerate or spent way too much time online like with Totally Spies
Yeah, so I need you to back all the way off with the uncalled for personal attacks please. Totaly spies was a masterpiece and ahead of its time.
 
Yeah, so I need you to back all the way off with the uncalled for personal attacks please. Totaly spies was a masterpiece and ahead of its time.

It was a good show back in the early 2000's, but didn't the show's creator outright say he snuck in as many weird and obscure fetishes as he could get away with? I'm pretty sure most of the stuff he included weren't even things he was into but it was more of some kind of elaborate long-running inside joke mixed with a self-imposed challenge.
 
It was a good show back in the early 2000's, but didn't the show's creator outright say he snuck in as many weird and obscure fetishes as he could get away with? I'm pretty sure most of the stuff he included weren't even things he was into but it was more of some kind of elaborate long-running inside joke mixed with a self-imposed challenge.
Probably. Totally spies was a veritable fetish buffet.
 
fuck yeah, we're unstoppable

Yeah, about thattttttt....

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She-Ra sucks, Steven Universe sucks, and this would be a lot less cringe if they just went out and made cartoons explicitly for woke womanchildren by woke womanchildren instead of trying to pass it off as children's entertainment.
This is basically what they did with She-Ra, that or the veneer that it's a kids show was very very thin. It didn't even try to hide that it was the equivalent of one of those romance fanfictions where all the characters are in name only versions of themselves and the point of the story is to see the main characters hook up.
 
Don't remind me about how the Woke Left hijacked the actual issues that LGB people had to deal with and made the slippery slope a real thing. The sad part is that the original "Queer Eye" show was more of a fashion-related reality show and the term queer was used ironically. It wasn't really meant to be anything more than goofy early 2000's reality TV shtick.

The funny thing is that they're all famewhores now. Its why I'm glad the original show didn't have social media. The new guys are annoying enough you want to take them to a field and shoot them.
 
The X-men property is just about cursed at this point if you take into account everything after the cartoon

X-Men was good stories first with its message of acceptance of those different from you came later. Not anymore, be it on movie or comics.

Besides, I have since matured where I see that mutants truly are dangerous and humanity has every right to be fucking terrified of them. Because its not a matter of "differences" like skin color, is the matter of differences that can actually KILL you (sometimes even out of their own control) and dont get me started on malicious mutants that have near god-like powers! EXCUSE ME for thinking that MAYBE mutant powers are actually dangerous and there should be some sort of prevention and reasonable control to prevent a full crumble of society.
 
Besides, I have since matured where I see that mutants truly are dangerous and humanity has every right to be fucking terrified of them. Because its not a matter of "differences" like skin color, is the matter of differences that can actually KILL you (sometimes even out of their own control) and dont get me started on malicious mutants that have near god-like powers! EXCUSE ME for thinking that MAYBE mutant powers are actually dangerous and there should be some sort of prevention and reasonable control to prevent a full crumble of society.
this works to a point, but they're in the Marvel Universe where every podunk town has at least three superpowered randos who can blow up every podunk town in fifty square miles but nobody really cares unless they're filthy muties or THAT BLASTED MENACE SPIDER-MAN
 
What genuinely creeps me out is the insistence that these cartoons are still predominantly meant for children. While I know millennials love themselves some denial, what is the point of doing this outside the implication that they are indeed trying to groom children? People in this thread are confirming that no kids like these shows as I too have observed. I see kids and preteens loaded to the hilt with the latest Disney IP, Capeshit movie or normie vidya stuff like Nintendo merch.

Why dont these homos just admit it and make these cartoons explicitly for adults? Make it She Ra: Warrior Queen or something and then you could add actual fucking and violence. Anime, shows like Spawn and projects like Love Death and Robots show that there is enough audience there to make some cash from, on top of the woke. It seems like kids and parents do not buy this stuff nor are anyone with an appropriate mental age getting suckered in, so why bother to pretend if not to make the QanonQueers sound like they're onto something?

I say this as someone who loves animation as an art form and a big fan of adult themed animation from the past like Bakshis work and Heavy Metal.

The word "cartoon" itself is reductive in terms of animation, but that's a sperging for another day.

The real reason why they want kids' cartoons to be "queer" is that they want them to serve as propaganda outlets, plain and simple. Call it grooming if you like, but certainly they want kids to get into this stuff. Remember, if you will, that the LGBT+ demographic has no way of reproducing otherwise.

Is it because the only successful American "adult animated" shows have all been comedies and no studio will fund anything else? Fuck if I know.

There have been successful instances of "adult" animated series that are action-focused.
There's almost a renewal of interest, even, I'd say. There's a reason Castlevania was a hit on Netflix, and there's even a caveman-action series names Primal on Adult Swim (which is very good, and entirely wordless.) That's the thing, too - there's a contingent of people who are working overtime to make genderspecial American animation (and it really is only Americans) a reality, and currently they're the "safe" bet for studio heads since obviously this is what the "young" people are interested in, right? The catch is that there are other producers out there taking bigger risks - streaming platforms chief among them - that are (to a degree) paying off.

Anyways, what I think the big monkey wrench in the system will be is that increasingly, countries other than America will be making inroads into the American animation sphere - both financially and culturally. Granted, animation from other countries has been around as long as American animation has, but modern-day methods of distribution have made it easier than ever before for countries to be able to sell their work abroad. I'm not even talking about anime - that's something that kids since the 90S have been into and has its own niche - but Latin America, Eastern Europe, Asia, and even Africa and the Middle East are starting up their own cottage industries for animation. In the case of Western Europe, you have thriving animation industries that have an increasingly large global presence. One series beloved by the zoomer set, Miraculous Ladybug, is French. (There's a lot of other good French animation that's child friendly. It's not all Totally Spies, I swear.)

To get back to the point, the increase in international competition plus the fact that not all of these countries approve of woke-signaling means that I think this trend will die out - probably sooner rather than later. Call me :optimistic: if you like, but I'm looking forward to the collapse of the monopoly Hollywood has on the global entertainment sphere.

(There's also the discussion about indie internet animation but that's also something else.)
 
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