The upper limits of forgiveness? Do you forgive neighbors? - Karmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf's father

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Forgiveness is for the peace of the victim, not the perpetrator. It allows them to finally move on with their lives. You can have forgiveness and still want them to suffer the consequences. The offender earned them.
 
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Slap47 said:
Buddhism, Christianity, and many others emphasize forgiveness as a key tenant
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A slave forgives the wrongdoings inflicted upon him. That's why every major order emphasizes forgiveness and tolerance. So that they may prey upon you without you fighting back. First you disarm the thinker (propaganda emphasizing tolerance), then you rip away his teeth (take away all weapons).
Today it's "regulations", tomorrow it's "confiscation".
 
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If a person shows enough regret over their actions, i can forgive them for most things. Not sure i could forgive anyone for killing my family though. its just to painful.

In Karmelo case, he dosent seem to regret what he has done and if it was my brother he killed, i would wish the most imaginable pain on him.
 
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Forgiveness is an alien thing to the eastern euro mind and Dwarfness.

The Book of Grudges will be expanded. The brother wars will not stop. That is the way of the europoor.

Equally retarded and based, it is simply the genetics selected for high pressure balkans warfare.
 
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image."

Christianity is not a constant state of forgiveness there are limits you do not cross. Making war with others is bad for the soul however, this man deserves nothing, but sulfur and it is his fellow man who should deliver unto him sulfur.
 
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#1 Hot Sauce of Kiwi Farm said:
Christianity is not a constant state of forgiveness there are limits you do not cross. Making war with others is bad for the soul however, this man deserves nothing, but sulfur and it is his fellow man who should deliver unto him sulfur.
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Something contemporary Christians seemingly refuse to acknowledge. Like the Bible started with the New Testament or smth...
 
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What are the rules on forgiveness?
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The Bible is pretty clear that forgiveness is to be done after the guilty party has acknowledged their actions, shown regret, and asked to be forgiven.

Forgiveness for ongoing wrongs, or those where the perpetrator admits no wrong and faces no consequences, is not Biblical.

Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
something to remember about this stuff is that one Kiwi Farmer pointed out once that many of these families are heavily pressured by the International Jew into doing these stunts.
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That would be the Community Relations Service within the Justice Department. And while it really ramped up under Obama and Eric "Just Us" Holder, it was created by the Civil Rights Act.

So just like "disparate impact", it's not some later perversion of the CRA's good intent, but was a cudgel baked into it from the start.
 
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Thinking about it right now after several shots, forgiveness seems important to modern fucking love science enlightenment logic. We are exposed to so much foulness yet that foulness is so "far away" that it doesn't affect you directly so you can sit back and think "Was this really that bad; is this tolerable; is the person who did something maybe intolerable still useful"

Forgiveness is too strong a way to put it, but there is a pervasive sense that despite some mortal sin, the person who did it is still a person and is still at least potentially useful for not-evil things. They might have even done the evil thing for a "good" reason to them. Not like "he fucked that child because the child was sexy" but "that man's sexual tastes are fucked up because he got fucked as a child (and we can let him know that that wasn't ok and it wasn't his fault so he doesn't continue that cycle of abuse)". It's why we have rehabilitative justice

But to maybe PL, I don't think anyone can be truly forgiven, and forgiveness is not useful. But I don't think true evil is real either. Whoever you are and whatever you've done will persist forever; ethics and justice aside, people have memories, and your own past experience will influence your future operations. People are as they are and can only be added to, not completely rewritten. "Forgiveness" is admitting that we're all in a complex situation and hoping that the person who did a no-no learned from the experience and had a good reason for doing whatever they did in the first place. To be forgiven is only to get a second chance; to forgive is to admit you didn't have complete information when you got mad.
 
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The Mighty Banth said:
Forgiveness is for the peace of the victim, not the perpetrator. It allows them to finally move on with their lives. You can have forgiveness and still want them to suffer the consequences. The offender earned them.
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You rape someone to ruin their life. Worst case you move on 5 days later or get jailed for 0 to 150 days and move on.

You sleep the best with an empty mind. If you choose to do the exact opposite of that, tough shit. Set yourself up for misery.
 
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