The VR Thread - We all know what you really use it for.

VR headset?

  • Yeah

    Votes: 75 63.6%

  • Nah

    Votes: 14 11.9%

  • Only losers use VR for porn and GF Sims, get a real girlfriend loser.

    Votes: 29 24.6%
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Judge Dredd said:
Some (potential big) VR news. Sony has announced the PSVR2 is coming to PC.

The question is what form will it take. From the opinions online, there are two likely options.

1. The most likely is that the PS5 will be used as a streaming box for something like Steam Link. This would make it mostly pointless but would also make the most sense from Sony.
2. A breakout box and official drivers. So you just buy a $50 accessory and play games as you would any other headset. This could make PSVR2 a top tier headset for the price.
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probably 1, less 2 given the effort and money required.

however if they allow steam link, it would open the PS5 to pretty much the whole steam library, which on one hand would shit all over gamepass/xbox, otoh piss off the sonyponies even more because MUH EXCLUSIVE CLUB.

tbh I expect neither of those and sony just throwing some money zuckerberg style at the devs to produce a PSVR2 version.

Bog-standard Poster said:
OTOH, it will now be one of the best headsets on the market. Hopefully someone will crack-magic the software so that one can use the VR2 controllers without the VR headset.
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that didn't happen even with PSVR1 at the height of the vr hype, much less likely to happen now.
 
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Bog-standard Poster said:
Sony are retarded.

They should have kept it closed platform, made big exclusives using their franchises (wipeout, twisted metal etc) and gave people a reason to buy PS5+PSVR2

OTOH, it will now be one of the best headsets on the market. Hopefully someone will crack-magic the software so that one can use the VR2 controllers without the VR headset.
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People have been trying to crack the PSVR2 to work on PC for a while. IVRy on steam has been exactly that, a fan made driver. Supposedly they had 6dof working. It's unlikely to be working any time soon.

ZMOT said:
I expect neither of those and sony just throwing some money zuckerberg style at the devs to produce a PSVR2 version.
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They did that for launch but seem to have stopped. There hasn't been much since launch that I know of, and as far as I know Resident Evil Village VR is vaporware. Given Sony's recent trend for multiplat, I can see their few exclusives getting a port, but I don't think there's the playerbase for VR to justify that expense.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
People have been trying to crack the PSVR2 to work on PC for a while. IVRy on steam has been exactly that, a fan made driver. Supposedly they had 6dof working. It's unlikely to be working any time soon.
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there was some work on PSVR1 too, but most of was hackish and duck-taping sensors to you HMD since people couldn't crack the playstation image recognition - which a) is always more complicated and b) possible privacy issues. that's why lighthouses will always be better, but a bigger investment/work upfront most aren't simply don't want to.

Judge Dredd said:
Given Sony's recent trend for multiplat, I can see their few exclusives getting a port, but I don't think there's the playerbase for VR to justify that expense.
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you'd probably have to convince crapcom, sony just paid them to either made it in the first place or not port it.
 
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George Lucas said:
Is VR basically dead? I built a whole new PC recently and realized none of my research led me to anyone talking about VR builds.
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VR stayed around as big as it got a few years back post Vive and went no further. I don't think there's been a massive falloff as some doomsays would say, but the people that took the helm of the industry led it astray, and no good games have kept being made. There's more interest from companies making hardware now to do gay AR shit rather than full VR. And most of the people active in VR stay to glorified chatrooms, mostly VR chat, and are furfags. Vr is not in a great place. There's been some decent advancements in tracking but nothing huge, and mostly any developments have been niche and expensive. The worst thing is the takeover of the mobile phone-esque headset that then splits compatibility off from full on PC stuff, even if it makes VR more accessible. The biggest news in a while was the PSVR2, which released to middling excitement, on a console with no games, and again it's a proprietary console headset so that splits the market even more.
 
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George Lucas said:
Is VR basically dead? I built a whole new PC recently and realized none of my research led me to anyone talking about VR builds.
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Basically yes.

When it comes to VR builds, there's a major problem in the form of VR hardware. To put it simply, VR was gimped by Quest 2 being the hardware of choice, but also being way under powered. It's basically a phone chip after all. There's also the simple fact that AAA made some junk, then jumped ship, so there's little to really tax the hardware that isn't a flat game ported to VR. If you have a graphics card made after the covid GPU shortage, you're basically set for 90% of VR exclusives. There are exceptions of course, but that's the general state of VR.


And I don't mean to keep bringing this up, but it's relevant. A lot of VR discourse is stuck almost a decade ago. This idea that there's no games for it, that it's still like that one Crowbcat video, and any games provided as examples of good VR exclusives "don't count" for one reason or another. New games have slowed to a trickle, but they still exist. Hardly enough to justify the hardware.

We're still waiting for a no major compromises headset and games to support it, but it just isn't happening. PSVR2 was abandoned almost immediately, and rumours of Sony making it work for PC could be great, but at this point it's likely too little too late.
 
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VR is... fine. The Quest 3 at least has a pretty active scene going and steady releases of good games. The problem is that the market isn't really growing, and while it's a niche market it won't get the funding or attention to break out from being a niche market, so it's a perpetuating cycle. Really good VR stuff like Alyx are what's needed to kickstart things, but games like Alyx require thousands of dollars worth of graphics card and VR hardware to work well, putting it out of reach for too many. Due to the stripped-down power of the built-in chipsets in the Quest line, they can't run the games that can blow people away with the amazing graphics that would really drive big onboarding.

Until VR has a killer app that can run on the cheaper non-PCVR setups, it's never taking off.
 
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PSVR2 had the chance to set the VR world on fire, because it was the only headset in the console industry. Sony could have negotiated PS games on Steam for Alyx, but they didn't.
They could have ported any one of their many franchises to VR2 but didn't, outside of Horizon
Destiny 2, Killzone, Haze and a whole host of other FPS games could have come to VR2 but Sony are incompetent.
They could have released loads of little, fun games to get the normies interested in buy the headset because VR is less about one or two big games, like normal gaming is, and more of a smorgasboard of experiences.

Sony dropped the ball because they're fucking retarded. They need to leave the industry.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
VR is so dead that GetHip has resorted to Ebegging his fans to pay for his "show car" because his channel cannot support his lifestyle.
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If a guy with 340k subs like this is floundering, I wonder what's gonna happen to the other big VR nerd Thrillseeker. Might be worth watching over the next year or two, he has double the subs of that guy currently but his biggest videos were mostly released well over a year ago to 3+ years back, with the bulk of the higher views being in the 2+ to 3 plus years old range.
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His current viewership rests at around 300k, half his subcount, which I can imagine will only trend downwards. I doubt he's able to sustain a living right now with what he's got.

Here's an archive of that gethip video, seeing as the title is "I'm deleting this in 72 hours".
 

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I was gifted a Quest 2 for helping my buddy move and I have to say that so far I'm obsessed with Half-Life Alyx and browsing the forum. The audio quality really surprised me too
 
Is the quest 3 a substantial improvement over the quest 2? My old headset is busted and I need a new one.
 
I played Gorn. Smashed my controller open twice. Not playing it again.
There's also now a black cross on my wall.
 
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