The White Lotus

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Been watching this, it's pretty enjoyable.

Nice mix of weird, creepy and funny.

I'm really surprised it seems to be popular with the twitter/tumblr users since it seems to be taking the piss out of woke zoomers and depicts the gays as evil more than once.

Pretty interested to see where the current plot thread with the old lady goes.

Also hoping the Asian guy has a skitzo moment and kills his wife and friends.

Thoughts?
 
surprised there wasn't a thread on this show already.


SE02 Finale no spoilers.
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Season 1 was really good. Season 2 is one of the best seasons of tv I've seen in a very long time, and is probably the closest I've gotten to chasing the high of Twin Peaks season 3.
 
It was quite interesting to me just how much I loathed almost every single character in both season one and two but was somehow still so interested in each of their storylines.

There were exceptions of course (horny grandpa), but to feature 90 percent unlikable cunts and have such a gripping show, I don't think I've experienced that in a while.

The finale was good, I like how they kept some endings vague.

Has this been renewed for Season 3?
 
It's one of the better shows in recent years. I was a little unimpressed with this season until the last couple episodes, particularly the latest one. I feel like it really changed a lot of the dynamics between a lot of the characters. Plus the conversation Rick had with his friend about being such a sexual degen that he started to see himself as an Asian woman and getting fucked in the ass while a woman watches. Wew.
 
It's a pretty good cast, too! Amy Lou Wood is the breakout for me but Arnold's kid is a great heel. Jason Isaacs doing a Carolina accent well enough that I didn't realize it was him for a minute. Speaking of accents, it's nice to hear Walton Goggins in a more naturalistic performance and not doing some over the top yeehaw thing. Michelle Monaghan seems to be having fun not playing a long-suffering cop wife for once in her career.

Only sour note for me is Parker Posey, in three decades I have never seen a performance from her that rose above dinner theater tier, and here especially she seems to be trying too hard to be this season's Jennifer Coolidge.
 
Plus the conversation Rick had with his friend about being such a sexual degen that he started to see himself as an Asian woman and getting fucked in the ass while a woman watches. Wew.
I love that a show that some of my normie friends watch, in all but name only, acknowledged AGP. Having it be in a tv show lets people bring it up in a non political/safe way. The race swap pandering of the CEO Andrew Ryan Kier Egan in a painting for the benefit of the black character Milchik was pretty funny in that context as well
 
The race swap pandering of the CEO Andrew Ryan Kier Egan in a painting for the benefit of the black character Milchik was pretty funny in that context as well
Different show (Severance) but I also like that show and appreciated that scene, especially considering how much Milchik clearly hated it.
 
Season 3 was kind of a disappointment for me. The storyline with the three blonde women ate up lots of screentime and didn't go anywhere. The end result of their week at the resort is that they're frenemies just like when they arrived, except that now they've seen a man get shot right in front of them... Except any reaction to that happening is offscreen after the season ends.

The Ratliff storyline was slow, aimless, and didn't ultimately go anywhere. Especially annoying were the edgy cutaway sequences where Tim would kill himself/others that were obviously shown to try to shock the audience in a cheap way. The wife didn't react at all to not having her pills except occasionally complaining (a criminal waste of expository potential imo. They should've shown her struggling with her unmedicated feelings and flying off the handle or something). Dealing with poverty was the biggest growth experience for any of them, and it was essentially reduced to a few seconds in the ending montage of Tim at a monastery. Like the blonde women, the big stuff happening to those characters is delayed until the show is already over.

The Russians being responsible for the breakin is also a complete loose end. Gaitok knows, and he and Valentin kind of discuss it, but the show never confirms that Gaitok does nothing or whatever. And the Mook/Gaitok relationship gets concluded by 5 seconds in the ending montage.

In all, S3 felt like they wrote the Rick revenge narrative first as some kind of "epic conclusion", and worked everything else around it to the detriment of the characters/narratives surrounding it. If I could change the show, I would cut the blonde women from the season entirely, and make the shootout happen an episode or two before the end so that all narrative loose ends that got put in the montage could be concluded properly.

Some other nitpicks:
  • Belinda feels like a Mary Sue to me. There's no reason that Pornchai (who is out of her league) falls in love with her, and every detail of her story is pretty much her being an unambiguous good guy who wins.
  • In the closing montage, Belinda and Zion seem totally unbothered by the shootout, and are just in "happy vacation time" mode despite Zion pretty clearly being shaken up in the opening scene.
  • Piper's whole storyline felt more like exposition than plot to me.
  • Rick and Chelsea don't feel very realistic to me. In particular, they talk about how the two of them used to have so much fun together or whatever, but Rick is never shown as anything but joyless and low energy. Chelsea is a manic pixie dream girl stereotype pretty much down to the letter.
  • Frank falls back into drugs and debauchery, and the reason is... He had to flatter an old Thai lady for a few minutes? No clear reason is given for him breaking 10 months of celibacy/sobriety.
  • Tim's contact in Brunei gets scooped up by the authorities, but they really can't get to Tim in Thailand?
  • Tim is dopey and drugged out almost the whole time, and all that results in is the occasional comment that he seems out of it. (And maybe it made him more impressionable for the Buddhist monk, but him becoming Buddhist or whatever is, yet again, all offscreen.
  • Saxon's development felt very unnatural to me.
  • Nobody addresses or even mentions Lachlan's near death experience. Is he not even a little curious about why eating a protein shake randomly almost killed him?
  • Similarly, the Ratliffs completely DGAF about being present for the shootout when they're on the boat at the end.

Really halfass season compared to S2 (haven't seen S1). Didn't help that half the fucking show was random footage of sloshing seawater or rustling trees.
 
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Season 3 was kind of a disappointment for me. The storyline with the three blonde women ate up lots of screentime and didn't go anywhere. The end result of their week at the resort is that they're frenemies just like when they arrived, except that now they've seen a man get shot right in front of them... Except any reaction to that happening is offscreen after the season ends.
Every reaction to the shooting was off screen. If someone went on vacation, and witnessed a mass shooting where five died, it would be all that they talked about with each other for possibly a lifetime. And if you went to a five star resort that had a mass shooting during your stay, where some of the victims and shooters were people you personally met, you'd never forget for your lifetime. Not forget ten seconds after leaving the resort on the boat to the airport. HBO also just did the show The Pitt where they had a mass casualty event that gets forgotten in a few hours like nothing happened as well.

There are storylines on the show The Wire where cops are involved in shootings and become so shaken up that they quit the force or move to a desk job. And these are hardened cops that work some of the worst drug gangs in America. And they can barely function after one shooting incident. These yuppies are literally laughing it up hours after the resort was turned into bloodbath.
The Ratliff storyline was slow, aimless, and didn't ultimately go anywhere.
It was a storyline with graphic incest sex between two brothers. And their sister losing graphically her virginity race mixing with Belinda's nigger son Zion (in a deleted scene). It was all about showing degeneracy on screen with no depth otherwise. A White father fantasizing about massacring his family. And a White woman pill addict. The storyline ultimately went nowhere.
The Russians being responsible for the breakin is also a complete loose end.
It was also another safe choice for the writer. Have the thieves be White men from Russia. Because when you think smash and grab jewelry heists you never would imagine niggers or chinks being the culprits. The producers were also not allowed to show Thailand in a negative light in order to get a tax incentive of $4.4 million from the Thailand government. This was why the Thai characters are all one dimensional and Buddhism is never shown to be false either. No mocking the monks or the monastery or Thailand culture. And why Gary's girlfriend was recast to a White actress midway through the production.
Didn't help that half the fucking show was random footage of sloshing seawater or rustling trees.
This was part of the tax money that Thailand payed HBO. It required tons of footage of Thailand's cities and nature as part of tourism advertising. So each episode wastes ten minutes with landscape shots or big sweeping displays of people partying in clubs or the streets.

Basically this season revealed that this series is probably spent of its creativity. It peaked in the first season and is now probably a permanent dud.
I think this thread is worth reviving after last night's episode.
After the finale this show might not recover.
 
This was part of the tax money that Thailand payed HBO. It required tons of footage of Thailand's cities and nature as part of tourism advertising. So each episode wastes ten minutes with landscape shots or big sweeping displays of people partying in clubs or the streets.
I was curious about this, so I found a source corroborating this. Makes me wonder if the plot was so shit because they had a half-formed plot in Japan and failed to make it work in Thailand.

It was a storyline with graphic incest sex between two brothers. And their sister losing graphically her virginity race mixing with Belinda's nigger son Zion (in a deleted scene). It was all about showing degeneracy on screen with no depth otherwise. A White father fantasizing about massacring his family. And a White woman pill addict. The storyline ultimately went nowhere.
Hate to say it, but I was kind of looking at the whole Ratliff degeneracy thing charitably. But Piper getting piped by Zion confirms to me that it's just """transgressive""" bullshit for the sake of it. Good to know, though.
 
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