The wider impacts of transgender acceptance

[WULULULULU]

You are all kinds of insane. There's no way people will settle for ladyboys and faggotry. You may see the world as some super hostile woman hating deathcamp but, truth is, men want to be loved by women.

The sad truth is that the modern atmosphere of Clown World seems to hate men simply because of being men so men will go through lengths to find some form of understanding and warmth. However, trannydom is not part of that. That's a big line many people dare not to cross and those that do end up getting pozzed as a result.

 

[Ser Prize]

The sad truth is that the modern atmosphere of Clown World seems to hate men simply because of being men so men will go through lengths to find some form of understanding and warmth. However, trannydom is not part of that. That's a big line many people dare not to cross and those that do end up getting pozzed as a result.

You see it a lot with TERFs. Even if we have a shared enemy I can't get behind their warped perception of a world where men are constantly super hostile to women 24/7 and just want to degrade and/or rape them.

Men love women. Men want women to love them. And I'd like to think that women want to be loved by men, too. We need eachother.

 

[Ward]

However, if I'm just a TERF in your view, you won't care what I have to say.

Before this message, the word TERF hasnt even been implied. Consider taking meds

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Before this message, the word TERF hasnt even been implied. Consider taking meds

Someone either edited their post, or deleted it. I did not bring the term up first.

You see it a lot with TERFs. Even if we have a shared enemy I can't get behind their warped perception of a world where men are constantly super hostile to women 24/7 and just want to degrade and/or rape them.

Men love women. Men want women to love them. And I'd like to think that women want to be loved by men, too. We need eachother.

There are degenerate women out there. The women who allow their kids to get groomed by gender bender shit just baffle me. I can't even comprehend their mindset. Then there are the ones who see the pinnacle of success as being an instagram whore. Most of what I say could probably be said for women, but I'm not in that 20-year age bracket, so I can't confirm for younger women. There are a still shit ton of degenerate men out there. Many of these dudes seem totally normal from the outside, which makes it all the more heartbreaking.

I've had more than enough men tell me "a hole is a hole"-- granted this is the internet, and people are anonymous-- including men that claim to have been raised in traditional families.. Many might claim they want love, but they look for the nearest screen whenever they get a spare quiet moment for some digital ass. Hugging and snuggling is "Boring!" Sigh. "Lame! Give me anal! Give me your ass! Choke on my dick! I want to see you gag and puke! So hawt! Glory holes so hawt! Enemas so hawt!" .These were like the token fag porn themes for decades, now they're mainstream..

There's more to it than just that. Things have changed over the years. Walking Street in Pattaya wouldn't be famous for ladyboys for no reason at all. Modern media wouldn't be saturated with filtered man-bun models and sexualized tr00ns for no reason at all. Men wouldn't be fixed on anal sex (preferring that over pussy) for no reason at all. All the men fan-girling for faggy male musicians in thick makeup and glitter. Even recent era sex symbols (female supermodels and actresses) have often resembled adolescent boys in terms of facial features and body shapes-- with low body fat percentages that resemble young men's, sharp facial features, unusually tall heights, etc. Now the standard of "female attractive" has gone from thin angled adolescent boy-bodies (the 2000s) and it's morphed into drag-queen beauty standards. Female models used to be stereotypically feminine in the classic sense-- in the early 1990s and prior-- but now that old standard is "gross KAREN!".

Gay men are the ones dictating fashion and cosmetics, hair styling, and have so for years--. they've only recently dropped the pretense of caring about women's beauty/fashion at all. BDSM sex is typical in high end fashion shows that set trends, styles that resemble gay leather kink-- humiliating models with ridiculous costumes. They love their drag queens, they love gender-specials, our culture is making gay men's preferences acceptable and celebrated, and even preferred-- They now set the standards for what the larger culture considers "beautiful", and now women's fashion is reflecting that: fake lips, fake eyebrows, BDSM style ultra tight corsets, plastic asses, plastic tits, gaudy layers of makeup, fake eyelashes-- drag queen tricks. Women pantomiming what women are supposed to be according to gay men. These things were always present to some extent, but not to the "drag queen" level they are now. Whereas male models used to be rare, half the catwalks and magazine covers have boys in makeup. This crap among the cultural elite sets the trends that roll downhill, whether we like it or not.

It's weird and hard to explain. It's as if gay men are dictating/directing what straight men find attractive in women, and the traits that are "celebrated" in women are becoming the traits gay men and tranny chasers find appealing. Sexy traditional chicks don't sell products like they used to, apparently. Men are visual creatures and constant exposure to certain images has a profound impact on their minds. I've seen the evolution of their men's general sexual preferences morph over the past three decades of my adulthood. Physical attractiveness is one of the primary ways women attract a man at all, but now that's thwarted by a strange cultural shift.

Part of this could be that the highest income levels of men who chose the direction of marketing and online media are into these things, which makes it appear as if that is what most men desire, but... even then.. trends often start with the elite and trickle down. Those rich fuckers who run the world are total degenerates, as many of the threads on here can illustrate, and they set the trends for the rest of the men out there-- at least for the ones who can't think for themselves.

If the idea standard for women becomes "practically drag queen", "practically a gay dude" or "might as well be a plastic blow up doll or robot", or if men are so fixated on anal, why would it be a leap for many men to simply decide they don't want women at all? Might as well jerk off another dude, call it a "marriage" for convenience/ insurance/financial/legal purposes, and share your porn stash with your "husband" or have both men chip in for a female sex robot.

Edit: I should add, this gay-man beauty standard probably promotes tr00ning out among young women. It's impossible to reach modern gay/they beauty standards as a female, so it's not hard to imagine young women deciding to tr00n out as an easier way to gain acceptance in the world. Most girls are raised to believe that the worst fate possible is "to be the ugly chick", so I imagine many decide to tr00n out instead.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You are all kinds of insane. There's no way people will settle for ladyboys and faggotry. You may see the world as some super hostile woman hating deathcamp but, truth is, men want to be loved by women.

You'd be surprised at how many men hate feminists so damn much that they'll turn into tranny chasers.

https://www.returnofkings.com/126811/how-toxic-femininity-turned-men-into-tranny-chasers

For the most part, I agree with you though. As irritating as women can be at times, especially if they fall for feminist bullshit to some degree or another, I'd still rather put up with them than the average tranny. Turning gay is not a viable alternative.

 

[Nate Higgers]

I've gone over this several times, but it remains relevant.

So, what lead to a transgender push? What lead to a diversity push in general? Things were never this bad, as many people pointed out, even a handful of years ago. It seems what you can make and what you can say and do is being restricted by social forces more year after year.

And I'm not just talking about you saying 'nigger' once on Twitter and then you get fired. I'm talking about making simple, factual statements such as 'only women give birth'. So why?

2008 was the turning point, really. Occupy Wallstreet, for as ineffectual as it was, fucking terrified the wealthy. They'd just crashed the global economy and they were fucking terrified people would come for their heads. You had Citibank releasing memos acknowledging the US was a plutocracy and that something had to be done to keep the plebs in line or they'd fucking kill all of them.

So, what to do? The rich went back to an age-old trick: Identity politics. Since time immemorial, Identity Politics has been used to isolate and divide the lower strata of society so that the wealthy upper strata can do whatever it wants. This has been the case since feudalism. Though eventually identity politics cannot hold the degeneracy of the upper classes forever: the Magna Carta, the French Revolution and mass labor strikes and riots of the 20th century (along with the great depression) basically forced a knife to the elite's throat to change things. And sometimes separated heads from shoulders.

That doesn't stop the wealthy from constantly doing it. I mean, look at pride month. You have fucking major defense contractors covering themselves in a pride flag. I remember an Earth-day tweet from fucking Raytheon saying its weapon systems for the US military were fucking green. It was like a goddamn robocop parody. A missile that blows apart human beings and destroys aircraft is somehow environmentally safe, spreading burning avionics, aluminum and body parts over a 10 mile wide area.

It is done to divide people. To make sure people don't look up to see who is holding their leash and who is making their lives miserable. To ask 'Why transgenderism?' is because 1) It basically allows fucking losers, retards, autists and AGP fetishists to become 'special' while being useless pieces of shit. It basically destroys any meaning while allowing absolutely terrible fucking people to police you. Its actually genius really. 2) It destroys unity among basically everyone. Look how its basically imploded the women's movement, where you have men in dresses screaming that they know what a woman is. 3) It makes metric fucktons of money. Every troon is a lifetime subscriber to the medical and pharmaceutical industry. Transition? You need hormones for life. These hormones will completely fuck your body up so you will need more medical care later down the line. Get surgery? Even better. De-transition? Still got to go back to the doctors for problems that will probably last the rest of your life. 4) It basically blows apart what is 'real' (feels over reals) and allows the gateway to gaslight you into denying your causative reality to basically accept anything. "Oh honey, its YOUR reality, its YOUR truth". Thereby denying anything to be true and clouding issues. Given that most people don't want to fucking think about anything, it makes it simple to gaslight people.

The lie is that its being accepted. It isn't. Nobody truly believes these are women or men. Not even their strongest supporters. Pronouns are only used because nobody wants to get fired. The truth is nobody wants to date trans people. Only 1% of straight people and 5% of gay people do. Not even progressives.

Its an illusion that people accept it, they only do it because they want to look hip and progressive. The fact of the matter is the group is being used to divide people, drain money from other people's pockets and hope the whole game stays alive long enough for them to retreat to their private islands before the Weimar Republic formerly known as America gets tired of their shit.

The whole thing is a shell game that's as old as time. This time around, there's more profit to it. But the rules are the same. The system they've implemented isn't going to last forever and tolerance doesn't put a roof over your head or food in your mouth.

I’m gonna keep hammering this home at the risk of sounding like a shill:

This is covered in The Transgender Industrial Complex by Scott Howard

Here’s a good article by The Federalist outlining the broad strokes.

 

[Secret Asshole]

You'd be surprised at how many men hate feminists so damn much that they'll turn into tranny chasers.

https://www.returnofkings.com/126811/how-toxic-femininity-turned-men-into-tranny-chasers

For the most part, I agree with you though. As irritating as women can be at times, especially if they fall for feminist bullshit to some degree or another, I'd still rather put up with them than the average tranny. Turning gay is not a viable alternative.

Still, its only 1% of straights willing to date a troon. Most men either: 1) Go gay or 2) Don't date. #1 is much more likely, especially if they date a very feminine twink or very androgyenous man, both of which pass better than troons and are more well adjusted and don't have an open wound or are mentally ill from taking hormones they don't need. The amount of troons that actually pass is very low, except for FtM because holy shit testosterone is a fucking crazy hormone (and women are basically the template for men, so its a lot easier to masculinize than feminize).

I’m gonna keep hammering this home at the risk of sounding like a shill:

This is covered in The Transgender Industrial Complex by Scott Howard

Here’s a good article by The Federalist outlining the broad strokes.

I totally agree with this. Allegedly, its 1.3 mil for each troon for the medical complex. I got it from Matt Walsh's doc so take it with a grain of salt, but with the eternal medical care that would be needed....yeah, I believe it.

 

[LurkNoMore]

I’m gonna keep hammering this home at the risk of sounding like a shill:

This is covered in The Transgender Industrial Complex by Scott Howard

Here’s a good article by The Federalist outlining the broad strokes.

Separating transgender issues from LGBT infrastructure is not an easy task. All the wealthiest donors have been funding LGB institutions before they became LGBT-oriented, and only in some instances are monies earmarked specifically for transgender issues. Some of these billionaires fund the LGBT through their myriad companies, multiplying their contributions many times over in ways that are also difficult to track.

She says this.

The LGB, a once-tiny group of people trying to love those of the same sex openly and be treated equally within society, has likely already been subsumed by capitalism and is now infiltrated by the medical industrial complex via transgenderism.

And then makes this claim. Which is it? Is all the money about creating a new market or is it going to other alphabet types as well.

It is also important to note that though the trans lobby has sewn itself to the LGB umbrella, LGB people as such are not lifelong medical patients.

This is a half truth at best. Both lesbians and gay men require the medical industry complex to have biological childern. Gay men require important, life long drugs to survive being HIV positive. It isn't suprising at all that the MIC is jumping on this latest step in an ever growing market.

even though lesbians, gays, and bisexuals don’t need specialized medical services.

As noted above, this simply isn't true.

We have to look at why this is framed as a civil rights issue when the main issues seem to be capital and social engineering.

Civil rights is social engineering.

The massive medical and technological infrastructure expansion for a tiny (but growing) fraction of the population with gender dysphoria, along with the money being funneled to this project by those heavily invested in the medical and technology industries, seems to make sense only in the context of expanding markets for changing the human body.

It does when you ignore the social capital aspect of such investments. Its easy to give what amounts to pocket change for these people to this or that issue some advisor says will make them look good.

This ideology is being promoted as a civil rights issue by wealthy, white, men with enormous influence who stand to personally benefit from their political activities.

It was a "civil rights" issue before the wealthy white men came along. The fact that they see an opportunity and are trying capitalize on it, doesn't mean they created it. Nor does it get away from the true believers amongst them. Who no doubt see their investments as a means to help others be their true selves.

This article tries to carry some observations too far. The massive dumping of wealth into trans activtism and "medical technology" can't exist without a base from which to build. All the fertilizer and water in the world isn't gonna grow a planet when there is no seed. This isn't some grand strategy to divide the plebs when half the argument doesn't even get to exist. The average person can't hope to speak up against transgenderism and not get fired for example.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

Wasn't sure where to put this but this thread seems fitting. I was just pondering on the whole "uterus havers" or "menstruating people" verbiage that we're seeing out of actual news outlets like NPR and whatnot. This satisfies the trannies yet pisses off the TERFs because "women" wasn't used. The trannies then argue with them that there needs to be an inclusive term.

It left me wondering why none of these organizations just do the most logical thing, which is say "women and trans men" or "men and trans women" to issues that affect those groups specifically. You can even add "...and non-binary individuals" as well. A bit more wordy of course but hey, all bases are covered. But then I realized that this goes against pretty much the entire point of saying shit like "menstruating people" and whatnot.

It's not about inclusion. It's about declaring yourselves as virtuous by using the group-approved verbiage. It's a signal to the right people that the organization posting this shit is on the "right side of history" by sticking to the approved messaging.

The contemporary left decided that culture as we know it needs to be eradicated in the name of equity and justice. Simply acknowledging the existence of trannies isn't enough; you have to cave to their bizarre demands. This is a massive difference between what's going on now and the old gay rights movement. Imagine back then if these institutions decided to start collectively referring to straights and gays as "sexually-attracted individuals" in headlines and stories. That's the horseshit we're dealing with now and it's done for the sole purpose of ideological control

 

[The Repeated Meme]

I don't think trans people should be accepted at all. I don't agree with that premise in the first place. I think it's pretty obvious to everyone who doesn't have a railroad spike through their brain that transgenderism is a mental illness and it should be treated as such. it is also a symbol that you have failed as a parent because a real parent would clearly explain the very important and immutable differences between the sexes at a young age and inform them that playing pretend is all well and good but the reality is you can't change who you are, certainly not on a biological level anyway, and if you can't deal with that then you need therapy, not to have yourself chemically or surgically castrated.

It's quite a staggering and damning indictment of our education system how many people don't understand this very basic truth. This is 3rd grade biology folks, it's not rocket science.