The Windows 11 Secret Tree Fort

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The only really irritating thing is no more getting to task manager with a right click to the taskbar. I've had to pin it, like some fucking barbarian.

There's always ctrl-shift-esc, the thumb and middle finger combo slam. But I'm an animal so I have it pinned.

A question about Win11 Pro, are they fucking around with that to make you give up and go Enterprise? I'm a little bit surprised that there even is a Pro version.

 

[Shig O'nella]

Always figured Win11Pro was just marketing BS for the ones who think they're too good for bog standard home use.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

(Or worse, upgrading people into a system that will refuse to boot)

That'll be fun... millions of brick'd PCs because of an upgrade people had no idea was happening in the background of their computers. Nevermind the people at home, businesses are going to be immediately halted with that shit as well. I know IT disables updates in Group Policy, but not everyone uses Pro versions of Windows for work.

 

[Don Yagon]

Always figured Win11Pro was just marketing BS for the ones who think they're too good for bog standard home use.

Practically every Windows edition that isn't obscure enterprise one is not suitable for comforable usage unless you're a braindead normalfag. And it's practically impossible to get the former through legitimate means if you're a home user.

 

[RSLUG30]

Another thing I heard is that you can't set up local accounts anymore.

microsoft has been trying their hardest to discourage local accounts in win10; when i was setting up my own machine for it the only way i could force a local account to be made is by removing the network connectors, where it then, begrudgingly, goes to a local account fallback.
it still pesters me to "upgrade" to a microsoft account to log in, it still makes changing the lock screen and user avatar/icon more difficult than it has any right to be, and hearing that they're removing this fallback comes to no surprise to me.

really does make me want to ditch windows and use a passable linux distro whenever win10 support is dropped, but that's assuming that i won't need specific programs that require windows whenever that happens (e.g. MS Office exclusive formatting styles that break in any other office suite).

 

[p4ddys]

Tried it for a week and wasn't amused. It's official release was what, October 2021? And some things are so fucking unpolished it's unreal. It looks more like an open beta test rather than an actual release.

• You want small taskbar icons? Fuck you then, gotta go change it from the registry. And when you do, your clock/notifications area breaks, the clock drops under the screen and now you cant see what time it is.
• You like your start menu? Well get used to having 2-3 random program icons go black every now and then. If you wanna fix it you'll need to restart the explorer from your barbaric pinned task manager
• And the worst of all: For some reason windows kept "updating" my AMD driver to a significantly older one, causing trouble with software i'm working on and one of the 2 games I still enjoy playing. Had to pause the automatic updates in order to stop the retard from downloading the old driver. Upon system restart however the automatic updates are restarted and the old as fuck driver is downloaded again.

I went back to my faithful windows 10. I'm totally not ''upgrading'' to win11 any time soon.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

It looks more like an open beta test rather than an actual release.

Oh so the current vidya trend, then? Why hire an actual QA team when you can have guinea pigs do it for free? Then 6 months to a year or two a "better" version will come out with working bells & whistles.

 

[ZMOT]

Oh so the current vidya trend, then? Why hire an actual QA team when you can have guinea pigs do it for free? Then 6 months to a year or two a "better" version will come out with working bells & whistles.

apparently Ms has fired their windows Q&A team years ago. I'd go as far and rank windows early adopters even below blizzdrones...

 

[Kheapathic]

I'll give it a try in 10 years or so; or whenever all the other companies feel like they have a handle on the 12th gen E/P core shit and how everything gets scheduled.

 

[libRT]

(Or worse, upgrading people into a system that will refuse to boot)

That'll be fun... millions of brick'd PCs because of an upgrade people had no idea was happening in the background of their computers. Nevermind the people at home, businesses are going to be immediately halted with that shit as well. I know IT disables updates in Group Policy, but not everyone uses Pro versions of Windows for work.

Nah they'll just get exclusivity deals with next gen releases of popular software.

Since the majority of shit people use don't really need upgrades and the upgrades that do get offered don't need this TPM wank. Maybe the year of the linux desktop is approaching this time. Or more likely, there will be yet another small rumbling discourse then everyone bends over and moves on.

I saw the offer but I'm holding off, I don't see any benefit to upgrading, and there's all the beta testing.

 

[seri0us]

Nah they'll just get exclusivity deals with next gen releases of popular software.

Since the majority of shit people use don't really need upgrades and the upgrades that do get offered don't need this TPM wank. Maybe the year of the linux desktop is approaching this time. Or more likely, there will be yet another small rumbling discourse then everyone bends over and moves on.

I saw the offer but I'm holding off, I don't see any benefit to upgrading, and there's all the beta testing.

The "year of the linux desktop" is whatever year you started using it.

 

[libRT]

The "year of the linux desktop" is whatever year you started using it.

I always thought it meant when vendors start beginning to support it seriously rather than needing the community to hack shit together just to get it barely functioning. Always feels like theres progress towards it whilst simultaneously feels like its never going to happen.

 

[Polarity]

Setting up a local account without "security questions" is incredibly frustrating if you have a WiFi card and can't easily disable it. You have to hit shift f10 to bring up a secret command prompt in the install, then run taskkill /F /IM oobenetworkconnectionflow.exe.

That will bypass the network bullshit. To not have to set security questions, pick your username, don't set a password at all, then setup will continue and you can add a normal password later.

Overall I don't mind the taskbar change really, but it certainly wasn't needed nor does it streamline or improve anything. Whatever, Microsoft has to release this crap to force everyone to keep upgrading if you want the latest security features.

 

[seri0us]

I always thought it meant when vendors start beginning to support it seriously rather than needing the community to hack shit together just to get it barely functioning. Always feels like theres progress towards it whilst simultaneously feels like its never going to happen.

It always was hacked together bullshit, except Linux is open about that fact.

 

[Buff Wellington]

I am a fan of 11 after forcing myself to use it for several months so I could support it. Once that was done though, I installed winaero tweaker and start11 to make it a much more useful workstation, and stop some of the damned spying.
Maybe one day we will get a windows 98 retro release or something.

 

[ditto]

My cousin in Trinidad won't install Windows 11 cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied by Windows Update

 

[Shig O'nella]

On the downside, I had the first BSoD in 14 years today.
Which mangled so many system files it was easier to fresh install.

 

[Keine]

Setting up a local account without "security questions" is incredibly frustrating if you have a WiFi card and can't easily disable it. You have to hit shift f10 to bring up a secret command prompt in the install, then run taskkill /F /IM oobenetworkconnectionflow.exe.

That will bypass the network bullshit. To not have to set security questions, pick your username, don't set a password at all, then setup will continue and you can add a normal password later.

Overall I don't mind the taskbar change really, but it certainly wasn't needed nor does it streamline or improve anything. Whatever, Microsoft has to release this crap to force everyone to keep upgrading if you want the latest security features.

You can also just use ipconfig /release to kill the internet connection long enough to get around Microsoft's account bullshit at setup. We do that at work all the time on both Windows 10 and 11. The only time it doesn't work is PCs running the godawful S Mode because that disables command prompt, regedit, and a couple other power user tools until you remove it.

 

[Boom Boss]

That'll be fun... millions of brick'd PCs because of an upgrade people had no idea was happening in the background of their computers. Nevermind the people at home, businesses are going to be immediately halted with that shit as well. I know IT disables updates in Group Policy, but not everyone uses Pro versions of Windows for work.

Most people's computers aren't even compatible with Windows 11. Thankfully this won't happen to most people.

Tried it for a week and wasn't amused. It's official release was what, October 2021? And some things are so fucking unpolished it's unreal. It looks more like an open beta test rather than an actual release.

• You want small taskbar icons? Fuck you then, gotta go change it from the registry. And when you do, your clock/notifications area breaks, the clock drops under the screen and now you cant see what time it is.
• You like your start menu? Well get used to having 2-3 random program icons go black every now and then. If you wanna fix it you'll need to restart the explorer from your barbaric pinned task manager
• And the worst of all: For some reason windows kept "updating" my AMD driver to a significantly older one, causing trouble with software i'm working on and one of the 2 games I still enjoy playing. Had to pause the automatic updates in order to stop the retard from downloading the old driver. Upon system restart however the automatic updates are restarted and the old as fuck driver is downloaded again.

I went back to my faithful windows 10. I'm totally not ''upgrading'' to win11 any time soon.

Windows 11 was rushed for Christmas. For some reason Microsoft thought people were demanding it, despite nobody asking for it. Windows 11 could have been delayed a few years so it could actually be polished, or better yet just stick with Windows 10.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Real shitty of MS to force laptop owners with Windows 10 S mode to make a Microsoft Account just to turn it off. Worst part is when you attach an account to the OS and remove the account, you lose all of your Edge browser data even from before the account was attached. They really punish users for not playing into their bullshit.