The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

I absolutely refuse to believe that as many as 1% of the global Windows userbase reinstalled their operating system in a single month. It's more likely that the Win11 users exited the Windows statistics altogether - just bought a Mac, or switched to using their smartphone for everything, or 41%ed themselves. But since the original data only provided percentages, not raw numbers, we can't really say if the absolute Win10 userbase increased, or just its relative share.

Lazy article.

There is also a bubble of Win 8 from October through February that rises to about 5%, which means Win 8 grew by 5x-10x over the period. Suggests something is goofy in their methods.
 
I absolutely refuse to believe that as many as 1% of the global Windows userbase reinstalled their operating system in a single month. It's more likely that the Win11 users exited the Windows statistics altogether - just bought a Mac, or switched to using their smartphone for everything, or 41%ed themselves. But since the original data only provided percentages, not raw numbers, we can't really say if the absolute Win10 userbase increased, or just its relative share.

Lazy article.
I'm an ex-Windows user who switched to MacOS several years back, haven't looked back since. MacOS has its own issues and headaches, but I'll take it over having to deal with how bloated and slow Windows is even on a clean install.

Hell, even the Windows 11 GUI overhaul they did was basically the "You can copy my homework, but not too closely" when it comes to the Windows v. Mac taskbar.
 
Windows thread bitching: Once again, an overnight update changed the UI
Linux thread bitching: Once again, an overnight update causes my entire system to crash when I launch Steam
At least it's not an update that forces you to resize partitions and wave a magic stick so the computer sees the new recovery partition
 
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All Debian, RedHat, and openSUSE-based distros have this capability.
You're right, it's daily updates.
Well, debian and red hat (as of rhel8 anyhow) for sure do not do this without warning or your consent, closing all of your open applications, killing your session, and breaking itself all on its own.

Seriously, its been years and thats never happened to me.
 
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Windows 7, but on your FUCKING telephone.
There were these, but you can run Windows on Android using Limbo, but my memory was vague:
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The three ones are made by OQO, now having its production coming to an halt in 2009 or so. Whilst the design look good in paper for old standards, they are still prone to overheating and can be more impractical to use than having an old desktop or PC of its years. It also offers an godawful price for its year as well, $1500 in 2007, according to LGR (still do not like the fatass). There are loads of mobile PCs were made in the 2000s, but all are impractical. Since the second OQO goes with Vista, this would expect to easily overheat due to aging specs inside of it.
There is also a bubble of Win 8 from October through February that rises to about 5%, which means Win 8 grew by 5x-10x over the period. Suggests something is goofy in their methods.
There was one point I encounter a Win8.1 PC somewhere else, but left un-updated for a long time. Perhaps when I look back at 8, I have bitter remarks about its very flaws that Vista and ME tend to share. Whilst 8.1 lift up the faggotry that 8 used to remove, the damage has been done for a long time. Maybe it has to do with people feeling nostalgic? 10 pre-22H2 was shat on a lot before it dominated the PC/laptop OS marketing share. Still keeping Linux as a side OS for virtual machines.
 
Well, debian and red hat (as of rhel8 anyhow) for sure do not do this without warning or your consent, closing all of your open applications, killing your session, and breaking itself all on its own.

Seriously, its been years and thats never happened to me.
Weird, I do not recall this happening during my time using Windows 10. It always notified me that there's an update, it didn't force me to drop everything I was doing to install it, I always installed those the moment I decided to turn off my PC and it never completely broke to the point where I had to reinstall. That only happened when I tried to repartition my system drive using a live Linux USB with gparted.

You'd know that too if you weren't so strongly opinionated about an OS you don't even use. But I guess it's okay when Linux users do it, rules for thee not for me. ;)
 
Weird, I do not recall this happening during my time using Windows 10. It always notified me that there's an update, it didn't force me to drop everything I was doing to install it, I always installed those the moment I decided to turn off my PC and it never completely broke to the point where I had to reinstall.
Windows 10 absolutely restarts and installs updates by itself if left alone for long enough, seems to be around 2 weeks of inactivity unless you have been putting off updating for a while in which case it only takes about 12 hours

Even then it still displays a full screen notification that lets you postpone so it's not actually a forced restart like the Linux people claim
 
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Windows 10 user here. All I can say is.....its not 11 levels of bad.
 
Windows 10 absolutely restarts and installs updates by itself if left alone for long enough, seems to be around 2 weeks of inactivity unless you have been putting off updating for a while in which case it only takes about 12 hours

Even then it still displays a full screen notification that lets you postpone so it's not actually a forced restart like the Linux people claim
Yeah, that only happened ever once or twice for me, left the PC idling when I left my house. But never did it happen when I was actively using it. The worst I lost was the position of the YouTube videos I was watching. I didn't mention those because a) it wasn't what our lovely Linux user here was talking about, and b) they leave details out all the time when defending their personality replacement in form of an OS, so I don't see a reason why I can't do the same.

Though here's a good argument. I do not ever recall Windows doing it the way it did it when everyone was hating on it back in 2015:
It did asinine shit when it first released, but after a few years of updates it was at a much better state. I started using it around 2019, right at the end of support of Windows 7 which I used before, and I never experienced that.

The same will happen with Windows 11. Just released, new Windows OS, as usual it's broken on release, a few years of patches and no one complains. People glorify how Windows XP was such a great OS, even though it was a complete piece of shit until SP3 got released, six years after the initial launch. When Service Pack 2 was released, people complained that the hardware requirements were raised. Guess what, the same complaints were later targeted towards Vista, that had larger hardware requirements than XP, and that OS has the reputation of one of the worst Windows releases, but it's the one that introduced a lot of improvements people associate 7 with, which was a refresh of Vista because of how badly people told themselves it was a shit OS.

It always happened with Windows, and it will continue to happen. Microsoft always introduced shit people didn't like in each iteration, there was never a single major consumer Windows release that didn't face critiques, and in the end people got used to it. Everyone will get used to 11, Microsoft will pull through to make it okay, and the cycle will continue forever. Linux users don't get it because there is no faceless corporation to put all the blame on, there are those kibbutz's where they always put the flaw on one of the thousands of packages and don't get mad because it's a kibbutz, it's a community effort, can't be mad at idiots fucking important shit up now that they have a face.
 
Yeah, that only happened ever once or twice for me
I don't generally turn my computer off, so this was happening all the time, occasionally causing me to lose progress on something I had left open overnight. 'just by pro' well I had just migrated from 7 so I did not realize basic settings would be going away forever until it was too late. the last straw was the bluetooth config for my 200 dollar headset broke, which prevented it from connecting and couldnt be deleted (either with the new interface or the old w7 era control panel)

Since I had to reinstall anyways I just went to ubuntu and I'm not a lobotomite so it wasn't that hard to get everything working again. I regularly do 6-9 month uptimes and generally only reboot for a reason (most recently updating nvidia drivers)

I don't necessarily disagree that for people who have zero technical ability who 'just want it to work' windows is probably preferable still, but it breaks itself increasingly often (the recent recovery partition thing for instance) and has increasingly annoying behavior in general, like that horrendous file explorer grouping that was forced on me at work and can only be changed folder by folder. Its pretty badly architected (steam deck is running windows games better than windows handhelds), is increasingly falling to pieces, and is maintained by people who poop in the street so its probably never going to get back to where it was.
 
People glorify how Windows XP was such a great OS, even though it was a complete piece of shit until SP3 got released, six years after the initial launch.
I sometimes feel like I am the only person left alive who remembers this so thank you for sharing my pain.

Not sure how people just totally memory holed DOS support being shit, compatibility with recent Win98 games being poor, driver support being awful, the bugginess, the poor perf vs the near identical Win2000, etc. It took a long time for me to get over that.
 
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Though here's a good argument. I do not ever recall Windows doing it the way it did it when everyone was hating on it back in 2015:

They fixed it by 2017, which is when I started using it. The way they initially allowed users to defer updates just had users putting them off until they were forced to. Now it figures out when it's unlikely to be used and just updates while you sleep.

The same will happen with Windows 11. Just released, new Windows OS, as usual it's broken on release, a few years of patches and no one complains. People glorify how Windows XP was such a great OS, even though it was a complete piece of shit until SP3 got released, six years after the initial launch. When Service Pack 2 was released, people complained that the hardware requirements were raised.

Windows XP was a Swiss cheese slice of security holes. There were all kinds of driver issues, too. I remember the experience of getting games to run being so maddening that I switched to console gaming from about midway through the PS2 era up through the first half of the PS4.

Linux users don't get it because there is no faceless corporation to put all the blame on

The real problem with Linux is there's nobody running things who actually forced to give a shit about the user when the money stops coming in. When Microsoft fucks up, they eventually get around to fixing it, while when one of these open source developers fuck up, they tell you to kiss their asses and fork their project if you don't like it, e.g. GNOME and MATE.
 
Even then it still displays a full screen notification that lets you postpone so it's not actually a forced restart like the Linux people claim
it absolutely restarts, that screen message is just the final warning. if you don't click it away the updates get installed. so if you run your machine over night, and the updates get installed in the "off-hours" (which usually is at night) you gonna wake up to a complete new session.

granted it gives you ample warning, most people will just click away tho like they do everything that nags them (see UAC being a fool's errant)
 
it absolutely restarts, that screen message is just the final warning. if you don't click it away the updates get installed. so if you run your machine over night, and the updates get installed in the "off-hours" (which usually is at night) you gonna wake up to a complete new session.
So just restart the computer yourself whenever it's not doing anything important? Having your desktop computer running 24/7 is fucking retarded, even 20 year old machines only take about a minute to start Windows 7
 
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