The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Hot take: Windows 11 works fine. I honestly miss Windows 10's user interface, but I always had performance issues with Windows 10. Windows 11 has never been slow on my computer, even on my cheap laptop. The only times it lags are when I have 1000 YouTube tabs open.
 
I want the ESU and have a Microsoft account but don't want my actual W10 PC with local account to become a zogged MS account user if I do the ESU, does the MS official ESU thing convert your local account to a MS account, and if so, the activation script is imperceivably identical but still allows user account, right?

Does anyone know if MS or game devs have any plans to make actual Windows 11 exclusive games? I fuckin hope not, I remember them saying 10 was gonna be the last one and I only put up with it for the best Forza Horizon 3 port. MS gonna lie
 
Mike Matei's Penis said:
Does anyone know if MS or game devs have any plans to make actual Windows 11 exclusive games?
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D3D12 will eventually end up with a feature level dependent upon Windows 11, at which point if a game takes advantage of it, it will no longer work on Windows 10.

There’s also the fact that new NVIDIA Game Ready GPU drivers won’t officially be available 1 year after 2026 for Windows 10 which could shut you out of necessary future Vulkan extensions. It’s likely AMD and Intel will take a similar approach too.
 
Perfectly Innocent said:
D3D12 will eventually end up with a feature level dependent upon Windows 11, at which point if a game takes advantage of it, it will no longer work on Windows 10.

There’s also the fact that new NVIDIA Game Ready GPU drivers won’t officially be available 1 year after 2026 for Windows 10 which could shut you out of necessary future Vulkan extensions. It’s likely AMD and Intel will take a similar approach too.
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AMD at least has the community patches, ngreedia? you're fucked.
also intel o algo due to arc/battlemage.
 
ghastlyretard said:
What do you miss from the 10 interface that isnt available in 11? Anything coming to my mind can be configured to look like 10.
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I'm sure you can configure Windows 11 to look however you want. I was talking about the default user interface. I am a lazy boomer; I don't do any customization that requires more than a few clicks. I won't configure some new user interface when my current one works just fine for what I do, but I did prefer how the default Windows 10 user interface looked.
 
I still believe that the one thing Windows 11 did right is the new Settings menu. W10's was this sort of mish-mash of mobile UI of W8 with more desktop oriented approaches, meanwhile the Jeets just went full desktop oriented in 11 with WinUI3. All the individual categories are now affixed to the left side list that all things considered is pretty compact, and all the submenus within those are well described so it's fairly easy to find the setting that you're looking for. Other than the fact that it's also written in React so it's slow as shit then it's a very solid improvement.

10's was padded to shit as it was clearly still designed with touchscreens in mind which was a PITA to use with a keyboard and mouse, but here it's the opposite, so +1 to Microsoft for making that right, and like -10 for the taskbar that's missing functionality that was present since Windows 95, the new start menu that for no good reason keeps your program list hidden by default instead of having it side-by-side like in 10, and the new context menu that instead of solving the issue of clutter caused a major annoyance as 99% of the software people use doesn't rely on their new fancy framework so you still need to access the old one, adding an extra click for every context menu operation if you don't apply the officially endorsed registry tweak.
 
Slav Power said:
I still believe that the one thing Windows 11 did right is the new Settings menu. W10's was this sort of mish-mash of mobile UI of W8 with more desktop oriented approaches, meanwhile the Jeets just went full desktop oriented in 11 with WinUI3. All the individual categories are now affixed to the left side list that all things considered is pretty compact, and all the submenus within those are well described so it's fairly easy to find the setting that you're looking for. Other than the fact that it's also written in React so it's slow as shit then it's a very solid improvement.

10's was padded to shit as it was clearly still designed with touchscreens in mind which was a PITA to use with a keyboard and mouse, but here it's the opposite, so +1 to Microsoft for making that right, and like -10 for the taskbar that's missing functionality that was present since Windows 95, the new start menu that for no good reason keeps your program list hidden by default instead of having it side-by-side like in 10, and the new context menu that instead of solving the issue of clutter caused a major annoyance as 99% of the software people use doesn't rely on their new fancy framework so you still need to access the old one, adding an extra click for every context menu operation if you don't apply the officially endorsed registry tweak.
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Control Panel was largely the same for like twenty years, with some differences between the DOS and NT Windows.

I don’t like that Microsoft keeps changing the settings around. If Windows 12 moves shit around again I’m going to lose it.

Ironically I think the Control Panel, where different controls are presented as individual ‘apps’, is more forward-thinking than the giant blob Settings app. And unlike iOS, the Windows Settings app isn’t a one-stop shop for all settings, so you don’t even get that consolidation benefit.
 
Mike Matei's Penis said:
Does anyone know if MS or game devs have any plans to make actual Windows 11 exclusive games? I fuckin hope not, I remember them saying 10 was gonna be the last one and I only put up with it for the best Forza Horizon 3 port. MS gonna lie
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Capcom have announced after Oct 14th they're no longer supporting Windows 10 on several Monster Hunter games: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2246340/view/544495527868236777

It just seems to be a warning that it's possible a future patch will break on Windows 10 and they won't fix it. But I'd say that's a pretty strong indication future Capcom games aren't going to be tested on Windows 10 and they're not afraid to utilise Windows 11 only APIs.
 
Would something like Open Shell work on the Windows 11 menu? I hope more schizo programmers come along and make a decent OS for playing games without getting infested by a community of overly dramatic trannies.
 
2 weeks before Windows 10's EOL, it looks like people started migrating... back to Windows 7?
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:

Time to GTFO. I installed Linux on my old Skylake system.
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What a shocker, the very first recommendation? Used Lenovo ThinkPad. Even if you're still planning on using Windows it's a no-brainer. Except you don't have to go for the X1 Carbon, all ThinkPads have good Linux driver support since Lenovo also offers shipping to companies with Linux pre-installed, from Ubuntu on pretty much all models to RHEL, Fedora and Debian on P series models, so the kernel support is strong. The tricky part is which model you wanna go with.

First of all, what not to buy:
-E series: the cheapest and lousiest ThinkPads of them all. Borderline rebranded IdeaPads.
-X series: they're no longer worth it as you have plenty of good 14 inch offerings in the other series and with time the X series became really crap, soldered everything to be able to reach those 13 inches.
-X9 series: some Macbook wannabe BS from Lenovo that doesn't even have a TrackPoint.
-Z series: weird hipster looking crap with a shitty keyboard that no one ever buys.

The series you wanna look at:
-L series: the bare minimum entry level series. Somewhat cheaper build, all plastic, no magnesium chassis, but you still get the metal hinges and a fairly robust build.
-T series: the staple office rat models. Magnesium chassis, better materials than the L series, but in many ways comparable to the L series in terms of specs, the deviations are small.
-P series: for all it's worth, these are Lenovo's actual flagships. High end, high performance guts in a laptop so that they can act as a standalone workstation when hooked up to a power supply, but it also means that they're bulky.
-X1 series: these are what Lenovo props up as their flagships. Slim, light, yet high performance, some of the most premium x86 laptops on the market.

Some caveats to look out for:
-Lenovo started to solder their RAM. Forget about user replaceable WLAN, that ship has sailed, but with RAM you have to pay attention to the specs. First of all, forget about X1 series if you want user replaceable RAM, that shit's always soldered there. Second, be wary that a bunch of models from the L, T and P series also had soldered RAM. Most notoriously the T14 G3 and T14 Gen 4 had it soldered, and by Gen 5 they gave SODIMM's, but the T14s models end up getting soldered as they're meant to be slim. The L series didn't have such major issues as they were gladly giving SODIMM's to these lower end models, as well as a fully sized Ethernet port.
-Lenovo loves to give you shitty 60Hz 45% NTSC screens in anything that's not a P series or a X1 series. They want you to splurge out for the flagships if you want to have a proper screen as the P and T series are meant for office rats that don't need a high end screen for MS Office. So if you care about that, you gotta look for the higher end models.
-Be wary that the P series tends to have throttling issues due to their high end guts, mainly in the 14 inch models. Read the reviews and decide on what you want to get. NotebookCheck is a good laptop review site. This goes for all the specs in all series really, verify if what you're looking for doesn't have any of the usual caveats like the soldered RAM, shitty screen and whatnot.
-Due to the nature of the leasing program, the stuff you'll find on the second hand market will vary in specs as the company that ordered these machines from Lenovo might've chosen a different configuration. Sometimes one model can have a 45% NTSC or a 100% sRGB screen in it's offering, but while one company that leased them cheaped out, another went for the better option.

Now, if you like to tinker then the last "trve" ThinkPad from Lenovo, as in the last ThinkPad that was customizable enough that there's a massive third party parts market for, is the ThinkPad T480. The last model with a quickly removable battery alongside an internal backup battery, that also had USB-C charging, a 2.5" bay that can also accommodate an NVMe adapter, user replaceable WLAN card, so you could tinker with it to give it WiFi 6/6E/7 and have a pretty good machine, as long as you're fine with the slightly dated 8th gen Intel CPU performance. At least that means that if you really want to you can install Windows 11 without any tricks. However, if you're looking for more modern performance and battery life, look into the newer models with modern Intel and AMD chips that don't suck power like a Soviet truck guzzles diesel.

Funny how this thread went from "Windows thread" to "Linux thread (Linux users trying not to talk about Linux in the Windows thread challenge (IMPOSSIBLE))" to "Enthusiast hardware questions" in like a span of two posts
 
If you want to expand memory on a laptop so bad, HP elitebooks with 7th-8th gen intel cpu-s don't have soldered ram. Of course do your googling before you pull the trigger.
 
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