The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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I feel so good having built my PC from the start with Windows 11. I love it. Does everything I want. It is time to upgrade fags. You are not immune to destiny:
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And in 5 more years, you will be crying about leaving 11, because it fucking rocks.
First, I have no idea how you haven't gained a pink triangle with your constant passive-aggressive abrasive schtick.
Second, I agree with this meme and it's why I can't take all the doomsday bickering about 11 seriously because the same shit happened in 2015 when 10 got released. And when 8 got released. And when Vista got released.

This wait on Valve releasing SteamOS Desktop is just a cope for people who will never move to Linux. They always had the ability to do so, but they never wanted to nor they ever will. It's also why I'm so sick and tired of the W11 hate and fear mongering circlejerk because it's so fucking fake and gay. I remember when everyone was declaring they'd never move to 10 because it's spyware that tracks every single move of your cursor, but eventually people forgot about all that, and when the initial wrinkles got ironed out everyone gladly moved to 10 because it didn't get in their way anymore. Now that W11 is meant to have Recall, people are making some ass-backwards statements about how this is the nail in the coffin for Windows because it'll track everything that you're doing. As if 10 wasn't already fucking doing it since it's release and as if all the """news outlets""" weren't spreading the same type of fear mongering about 10 a decade ago.

So to everyone who's bitching about 11: shut the fuck up, eat a dick, you won't move to Linux over this and you'll never will. You know you don't want to move to Linux so don't act like some sort of freedom warrior and just admit you're a dumb nigger cattle. You will deal with all the shit 11 throws at you. You will deal with the shitty React written UI. You will deal with the castrated taskbar. You will deal with the shitty new context menu. You will deal with the weather widget you're too retarded to disable. And when 12 comes around, you will staunchly defend 11 as "the last good Windows". Because you're not capable of using your computer and you are forever a slave to Satya Nadella.

As for Windows Explorer (the file manager), Total Commander always mogged it. It's not a concern for me. Not on 95, not on 98, not on 2000, not on XP, not on Vista, not on 7, not on 10 and not on 11. I already use something that's way better, more powerful and more efficient. All that I expect from Windows is for it to be an OS: a solid base for the software that I want to run to do my work my way in the best way that I can. Linux doesn't let me run the software that I use and I'd need to make sacrifices so it's a bad OS for me. Windows 10/11 is the next best bet, where I will have to tinker with it initially for it to not get in my way and to replace Microsoft's software suite with mine, and after that it's the perfect OS for me.

A truly perfect OS for me would be something like Windows 2000 but modern kernel. Spartan set of preinstalled software on a rock stable base, doesn't get in your way, gives you an empty desktop. It's up to you to install your own software. If someone actually uses their computer then that's what they want from their OS as well. They will pick and choose what software to use and all that they're expecting is for this software to run.
 
First, I have no idea how you haven't gained a pink triangle with your constant passive-aggressive abrasive schtick.
Active participation on site has its perks.

As for windows, I get snarky, because as you pointed out, no normie wants to move to an OS ran like a NASCAR pileup. People will move to 11 like they moved to 10, and that cycle will continue, because 99% of people aren't power users and just care that the fucker boots up and plays games
 
Really preaching to the choir with the last two posts here.

Windows backward compatibility has always been nice because it means you can replace most of the modern software with useful stuff made 15 years ago. Finding out classic programs like notepad and windows photo viewer are just sitting around in system folders mostly functional was pretty funny.
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I'm really surprised we haven't seen a full desktop replacement on Win11 yet. I guess there's not really any profit in it as the current stuff is "good enough".
 
I'm really surprised we haven't seen a full desktop replacement on Win11 yet. I guess there's not really any profit in it as the current stuff is "good enough".
You can replace the start menu, you can replace the file manager, unless someone figures out how to port X11 and Cinnamon to Windows I don't think there is much else that can be done
 
I'm really surprised we haven't seen a full desktop replacement on Win11 yet. I guess there's not really any profit in it as the current stuff is "good enough".
I mean its (kind of) possible, including the above mentioned you can get a window manager (glazeWM) + taskbar modifications (ExplorerPatcher), maybe even a status bar if you're feeling extra jobless spicy (zebar but it uses webview and isn't the greatest to work with config wise). Of course all of this would exist as a layer on top of the actual windows 11 environment so in terms of replacements it might be the worst possible solution in the context of actual resource optimization, like using suckless dwm in KDE lol. As far as I can tell outright trying to replace it would introduce a lot of dependencies that would all be individually liable to completely break after any given odd system update. Really not worth the effort.
 
I'm really surprised we haven't seen a full desktop replacement on Win11 yet. I guess there's not really any profit in it as the current stuff is "good enough".
I haven't used it, but there's Cairo Shell. About 25 years ago I was into LiteStep and there was a sizeable community around it and other alternative Windows shells. Seems like that community died off a long time ago. Now it seems launchers and start menu replacements are all the rage.
 
I'm really surprised we haven't seen a full desktop replacement on Win11 yet. I guess there's not really any profit in it as the current stuff is "good enough".
Not much money in traditional desktop OSs nowadays. There's no reason for Microsoft to invest at all outside of security patches, except that they have employees whose jobs go away if that happens, so they bring in change for the sake of change.
 
Not much money in traditional desktop OSs nowadays. There's no reason for Microsoft to invest at all outside of security patches, except that they have employees whose jobs go away if that happens, so they bring in change for the sake of change.
He meant third party software, why is it that whenever the topic is about Windows it has to be looked at through the prism of Microsoft having a total monopoly on what you can do with Windows and what can be done with Windows, even though there's a massive third party software market, but for some reason when we're talking about Windows it ceases to matter because Microsoft is meant to do everything themselves? What's up with this ass backwards mentality? Or is it the side effect of "everything Microsoft does is bad and I need to bitch about it" mentality where your rage boner for Nadella is so big you just jump the gun not getting the context of the discussion? It's really fucking tiring to see.

Like guiltyspark85 mentioned, there's Cairo Shell if you want a shell replacement, but all it means for Windows is that you're changing out the taskbar for something else. Unlike in Linux, you're just aiming to change what's at the very front of your desktop, not gut the entire backend to be as lightweight as possible and whatever the fuck. And yes, the market for that is pretty small, Cairo is the only surviving shell replacement around, and even then with how bad W11's taskbar is, you have RetroBar, ExplorerPatcher and Windhawk patches, because all things considered the taskbar and floating windows are just fine for 99.9% of people, and all that W11 did is make the taskbar a little bit more shitty so any software you're gonna look for only aims to make it less shittier and that's all you really need.
 
Or is it the side effect of "everything Microsoft does is bad and I need to bitch about it" mentality where your rage boner for Nadella is so big you just jump the gun not getting the context of the discussion? It's really fucking tiring to see.
agreed, i blame on linuxfaggotry especially lately where sloptubers are always bitching about windows since W10 is dying for W11, TRVE AND HONEST linux users use both OSes, some use mac if they want some of apple's good shit apps because that justifies the money for as much as gaytarded that "apple enviroment" talk is.
Like guiltyspark85 mentioned, there's Cairo Shell if you want a shell replacement, but all it means for Windows is that you're changing out the taskbar for something else. Unlike in Linux, you're just aiming to change what's at the very front of your desktop, not gut the entire backend to be as lightweight as possible and whatever the fuck. And yes, the market for that is pretty small, Cairo is the only surviving shell replacement around, and even then with how bad W11's taskbar is, you have RetroBar, ExplorerPatcher and Windhawk patches, because all things considered the taskbar and floating windows are just fine for 99.9% of people, and all that W11 did is make the taskbar a little bit more shitty so any software you're gonna look for only aims to make it less shittier and that's all you really need.
one of my gripes with W11 overall is the fucking touchscreen focused design and windows usually doesn't let you customize it, it's like there's a artfag in there on a similar level of apple designer smugness, fuck's sake.
it's even more infuriating when you remember that WinXP having themes was the hot shit back in the day and even Win7 let you customize some of it, W10 is literally perfection if you debloat all the extra marketing/store integration shit and then we go to Win11 where it's basically Windows 8 Touchpad/Phone Design 2.0 - Electric Bogaloo.
 
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Once Windows 10 support ends will Microsoft try to break support for massgrave activations? It's probably not possible except by pushing a patch that can be blocked, and they don't seem smart enough to have been sneaking in something that triggers on October 14 to deactivate systems using massgrave scripts
 
W10 is literally perfection if you debloat all the extra marketing/store integration shit and then we go to Win11 where it's basically Windows 8 Touchpad/Phone Design 2.0 - Electric Bogaloo.
every other windows OS version is a shittified normie-core version because microsoft puts all of their money into stupid novelty and then panics and puts it back into power users. vista had smart home integration as the shitty gimmick. windows 8 had tablets. windows 11 has AI. if you want me to switch to a new operating system you're going to have to provide at least a single feature that makes me go "oh, that's cool, i want to use that" and so far it just looks like windows 11 is another windows 8

windows 12 will come out in like 2028 and its going to default back to the normal task bar and they're going to revive aero
 
Once Windows 10 support ends will Microsoft try to break support for massgrave activations? It's probably not possible except by pushing a patch that can be blocked, and they don't seem smart enough to have been sneaking in something that triggers on October 14 to deactivate systems using massgrave scripts
Doubtful as it'd likely require massive changes in how their activation system fundamentally works and I don't think Microsoft are that willing to put effort into something that in the end doesn't affect their bottom line. As long as people are in their ecosystem and businesses pay up then all is good as far as they're concerned.
 
every other windows OS version is a shittified normie-core version because microsoft puts all of their money into stupid novelty and then panics and puts it back into power users. vista had smart home integration as the shitty gimmick. windows 8 had tablets. windows 11 has AI. if you want me to switch to a new operating system you're going to have to provide at least a single feature that makes me go "oh, that's cool, i want to use that" and so far it just looks like windows 11 is another windows 8

windows 12 will come out in like 2028 and its going to default back to the normal task bar and they're going to revive aero
Considering the new MacOS diet skeuomorphism liquid glass look that's trying to take advantage of recent frutiger aero nostalgiafag posting I am fully expecting them to pull some windows 7/vista related callback in the future.
 
Once Windows 10 support ends will Microsoft try to break support for massgrave activations? It's probably not possible except by pushing a patch that can be blocked, and they don't seem smart enough to have been sneaking in something that triggers on October 14 to deactivate systems using massgrave scripts
i don't think so, they can only seethe at oldass computers that don't have TPM2.0 and keep telling people to buy a new PC if they want to use Win11.

windows 12 will come out in like 2028 and its going to default back to the normal task bar and they're going to revive aero
in the end, all themes return to aero.
 
in the end, all themes return to aero.
Except instead of looking as good as Aero did it will be the disgusting dropped onto the floor 15 times, horrific aftertaste and make you feel like you have stomach cancer Indian McDonalds version of it spearheaded by Sanjay Kumar of the Surface Pro division.
 
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