The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

[❤️ Rivet ❤️]

The alternative to MS Office is to not being a dumb niggercattle. There are multiple MS office alternatives out there that are all superior and free.

Hands that have never worked in professional environment typed this. There is no viable alternative to MS Office in the office/corporate world.

windows xp was the best design and also ran beautifully.

At the time the "fisher price" UI was much maligned and imo it took until SP2 to be "good".

 

[Betonhaus]

https://alternativeto.net/news/2024/4/windows-10-will-start-pushing-you-towards-using-a-microsoft-account-instead-of-a-local-one/

God I really, really hope that I can avoid the vast majority of bullshit like this with an Enterprise or Education install in the future. This is so retarded, especially given just how much IT infrastructure is based on the classic NT domain accounts. Someone higher up at MS has an insane hardon for breaking working things recently.

What really piss s me off is that when you make a Microsoft account at install like you're forced to, it automatically makes your username the first five characters of your email, so if your name is Freddy it will be fredd and when you're dealing with stuff like ssh logging into your home server where your account is freddy you have to @ your full name because it will default to fredd@server. And your home folder has the shortened name and everything else does and it's so stupid.

 

[Betonhaus]

Hands that have never worked in professional environment typed this. There is no viable alternative to MS Office in the office/corporate world

Try out OnlyOffice then see if you still say that. Most Linux office programs are based on OpenOffice which is a piece of crap but OnlyOffice was written from scratch to have native docx support and is one of the few office programs not based on really old crappy shit

 

[The Ugly One]

Windows 95: crap
Windows 98: crap
Windows XP: crap
Windows Vista: crap
Windows 7: fine
Windows 8: crap
Windows 10: fine
Windows 11: fine

Windows has been basically fine for a decade, with one major misstep with 8. They do look like they're gearing up to really fuck up Windows by turning it into adware, though.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

There are hilarious complexities preventing this from happening, but my favorite is the cycle-loop of
1 - Someone recommends distro
2 - 3 or 4 people follow that up with "that distro sucks, it's doghshit, use 'different distro' instead
3 - 'previous posters are luddites for not knowing X, Y or Z. Recommend me a good distro please'
4 - Go back to 1

I'm partial to the "autistic suicide cycle" myself.

1. The more unreliable something actually is, the more insanely autistic and dedicated the userbase is
2. The more insanely autistic the userbase is, the more convinced they are of their absolute intelligence
3. The more up their ass they are, the less helpful they are, and the more vocal they are

ergo

4. You eventually will hit a far field condition where there are enough people selling a hell distro that normies try it, hit a snag, then have to deal with the autists, and run for the hills, and this will balance out with the autists killing themselves and being replaced.

This applies to basically every software with an open source alternative. For every $1 soundboard program that performs out of the box, 90% of the time there is a voice banana that requires you to understand discords multithreaded audio processing strategy being recommended all over reddit.

 

[Dishonourable Harlot]

Windows 95: crap
Windows 98: crap
Windows XP: crap
Windows Vista: crap
Windows 7: fine
Windows 8: crap
Windows 10: fine
Windows 11: fine

Windows has been basically fine for a decade, with one major misstep with 8. They do look like they're gearing up to really fuck up Windows by turning it into adware, though.

Perhaps Windows turning into 1984 truly obnoxious adware is what will convert @Slav Power to learning Linux and Python.

But yeah, Windows has been getting worse since Windows 8 when they decided to begin removing features like the games and many codecs like MPEG-2 from the default installation.

 

[Slav Power]

Perhaps Windows turning into 1984 truly obnoxious adware is what will convert @Slav Power to learning Linux and Python.

It'll faster convince me into becoming a luddite. If it's a choice between a functional OS I have no control over and a dysfunctional OS I have full control over, I'd rather just live in a shed with no electricity.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

https://alternativeto.net/news/2024/4/windows-10-will-start-pushing-you-towards-using-a-microsoft-account-instead-of-a-local-one/

God I really, really hope that I can avoid the vast majority of bullshit like this with an Enterprise or Education install in the future. This is so retarded, especially given just how much IT infrastructure is based on the classic NT domain accounts. Someone higher up at MS has an insane hardon for breaking working things recently.

Linux Mint will never require a microsoft account

 

[Spatula]

Find me Linux alternatives for:
-AutoHotkey
-ShareX
-Keypirinha
-MS Office
-Total Commander

Geez I was scared you were gonna start asking difficult questions

 

[Betonhaus]

Windows has been basically fine for a decade, with one major misstep with 8. They do look like they're gearing up to really fuck up Windows by turning it into adware, though.

I blame the pajeets. It's going to get worse and worse, so now is as good as time as any to review what you need to do to migrate to a more stable OS

Geez I was scared you were gonna start asking difficult questions

Yeah 80% of the time when they go "Yeah but can Linux run THIS?" it's some super niche software that virtually nobody has even heard of.

 

[Slav Power]

Linux Mint will never require a microsoft account

Speaking of breaking things that work, why is it that Mint is pushing Wayland over X11? And so does every other distro? X11 works, no one had an issue with X11, why change it? Oh yeah, I guess if I type out these 100 commands in order I can keep X11 when everything has finally moved to Wayland, but if I do the same with Windows I'm insane for trying to mess with it instead moving to Linux.

I mean, thanks for proving my point of how this thread is being infested by Linuxfags making it about themselves much like troons infesting every community to make it about themselves. And much like troons you're then shocked when people dislike you if this is the public image you build for yourself.

Geez I was scared you were gonna start asking difficult questions

Yet you didn't bother to give any answers to those easy questions. Weird.

Yeah 80% of the time when they go "Yeah but can Linux run THIS?" it's some super niche software that virtually nobody has even heard of.

I can say the exact same about the shit you run under Linux. But I understand that Linux users are so egotistical that they make everything about themselves to the point where they cannot fathom other users have different needs and use different software.

 

[Spatula]

Yet you didn't bother to give any answers to those easy questions. Weird.

Because it's your personal habit. I might use an app from 92, and even if there are 5 alternative that does the same thing, I will still use it because of habit.
It's like me saying I love my winamp and you can't find me another media player like that.

There are real disadvantages to linux tho, like the games that have kernel anti-cheats, and graphic and music software that are not compatible. I thought you were gonna pull out the big guns.

 

[Betonhaus]

Because it's your personal habit. I might use an app from 92, and even if there are 5 alternative that does the same thing, I will still use it because of habit.
It's like me saying I love my winamp and you can't find me another media player like that.

So what are you going to do when that app no longer works under Windows 12, and nothing supports Windows 11 anymore? You're going to have to move on eventually

 

[Spatula]

So what are you going to do when that app no longer works under Windows 12, and nothing supports Windows 11 anymore? You're going to have to move on eventually

I will blame it on linux for not having the exact same program of course.

 

[Slav Power]

Because it's your personal habit. I might use an app from 92, and even if there are 5 alternative that does the same thing, I will still use it because of habit.

Motherfucker, in that post I mentioned how I tried alternatives and they didn't work for me. I'm not going to sacrifice my workflow in the name of not using Windows, that's not how it works.

Also, because Linux users share the same arguments whenever discussing Windows vs Linux, you show one of those traits that make people hate Linux users.

I asked for alternatives for this specific software. A normal response would be "oh yeah you can try X" or "oh Linux doesn't have that", but your first instinct was to make a snarky remark. Then after I pointed that out, your rebuttal was "it's a me issue", once again, you didn't answer my question, and you did the usual blame shifting of it being the user issue, not Linux's issue.

My question is: are you trying to convince me that I should move to Linux this way? Because you're doing the exact opposite, you're reaffirming my assumption that every Linux user is a fart huffing egotistical cuntface that has the exact same cult mentality as Apple users or Tesla drivers. Whenever a fault of your idol is pointed out, you do everything possible to not acknowledge it.

If you just want to act like a cunt and gatekeep Linux, just fucking admit it. Don't try and act like you actually want to convince me to move to Linux. Insult me, laugh at me, act like the biggest asshole on the planet if that's your actual goal. Because you're sure as hell not convincing me to daily drive Linux.

Oh yeah, I've been using Winamp for a long time but at some point I moved to foobar2000 and made my own UI for it, and I completely readapted for that. It's not habit or not wanting to change things, it's that I like software that's good and works, if it does that then I'm willing to switch. Stop gaslighting people because that's not how you make a convincing argument.

 

[The Ugly One]

If Microsoft fucks up Windows to the point where it's a hellish experience to use a desktop PC, I'm going back to Mac + Playstation.

 

[Slav Power]

I'm going back to Mac

It's what the thread subverting KF Linux troon doesn't want to hear the most. It's not Linux that'll gain from Windows losing market share, it's Mac. 99% of Windows users just want something that works. Linux doesn't work.

You can't expect a normal person to wrap their head around which distro, DE, window server, init system and whatever the fuck to choose, you can't expect them to deal with the command line every time something doesn't work. Linux doesn't work, you average Windows user wants something that works. And what works? Mac. Your average Windows user would rather get a Mac Mini, and this is the real marker share shift that will happen. The Windows users that know how to tard wrangle it are as much of a minority as Linux users. They will most likely flock to Mac too. And when everyone flocks to Mac, there's no incentive in making Linux a good alternative to Windows.

The only reason Linux is what it is today is corporate incentive. If not for Valve's incentive, gaming on Linux would still be a nightmare. If not for just about every large corpo, Linux would forever remain a hobbyist project of some Finnish nerd. All the bullshit about community-made software, free as in freedom and all the fairy tales Linux cultists believe in are bullshit. Without corporations, Linux would be like GNU Hurd. It would be complete and utter shit. Linux users owe their OS to the very corporations they so deeply despise, but they're too blind to see that.

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

Windows 95: crap
Windows 98: crap
Windows XP: crap
Windows Vista: crap
Windows 7: fine
Windows 8: crap
Windows 10: fine
Windows 11: fine

other than it being worse than 2000, what makes XP crap? never really had many issues with it

 

[Spatula]

Motherfucker, in that post I mentioned how I tried alternatives and they didn't work for me. I'm not going to sacrifice my workflow in the name of not using Windows, that's not how it works.

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
Or ask your favorite pajeet tech support for help. Whatever works for you.

Also, because Linux users share the same arguments whenever discussing Windows vs Linux, you show one of those traits that make people hate Linux users.

I use both linux and windows.

My question is: are you trying to convince me that I should move to Linux this way?

I don't care. I have no stake in it.
This conversation is identical to android vs iphone, like how iphone users joke about android apps and having an alergic reaction to navigating more than 1 button.
If you were born using a linux you would not be able to adapt to windows.

Insult me, laugh at me, act like the biggest asshole on the planet if that's your actual goal. Because you're sure as hell not convincing me to daily drive Linux.

you victimize yourself too much for someone who throws insults in every paragraph.

And when everyone flocks to Mac, there's no incentive in making Linux a good alternative to Windows.

I really want to see the percentage of world population that are able to afford macs.

 

[The Ugly One]

other than it being worse than 2000, what makes XP crap? never really had many issues with it

It was riddled with security, stability, and driver problems, not as badly as Win 98, but still not what I would call "good." SP2 roughly doubled the system requirements to run smoothly. I had a P4 with 512 MB of RAM that was buttery smooth before SP2; after SP2 dropped, it was a sluggish mess.

The only reason Linux is what it is today is corporate incentive. If not for Valve's incentive, gaming on Linux would still be a nightmare.

The corporations that have contributed most to Linux not being a completely useless piece of shit a la BeOS are Microsoft, Intel, Google, IBM, Samsung, Arm, Red Hat, SUSE, and AMD. Valve's contributed very little.

Ironically, the only reason this was possible is that a truck-sized exception to the GPL was introduced to system APIs and gcc headers. If they'd stuck rigorously to copyleft, you would have never even heard of Linux unless you were an autistic nerd who likes trying out operating systems just to try them out.

If you were born using a linux you would not be able to adapt to windows.

I was born using a DOS machine and adapted to Windows, Linux, and OSX just fine.