The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

[Big Judge Cock]

LOL Win 11 still has both Control Panel and "Settings"? Is this because they still can't work out how the white man did it all those years ago in Windows NT, or is it just spaghetti code?

 

[geckogoy]

LOL Win 11 still has both Control Panel and "Settings"? Is this because they still can't work out how the white man did it all those years ago in Windows NT, or is it just spaghetti code?

Both?

 

[The Ugly One]

LOL Win 11 still has both Control Panel and "Settings"? Is this because they still can't work out how the white man did it all those years ago in Windows NT, or is it just spaghetti code?

Gotta have the new gay shit because of Mac envy, but the old way so that people can actually use the computer.

 

[Pepe Cortisona]

Today I discovered at my job that you can crash the capability of Windows 11 to select and drag files around, but only if Photoshop can't complete an action with a specific set of steps (content aware fill seems to do this when there is no blank space to fill, but only as part of an action set that I have to use use on a daily basis). This also breaks Photoshop capability of dragging stuff inside the program among breaking other things by the way.

Restarting the Windows Explorer doesn't fix this problem, you have to reboot the computer.

When pajeet code colides with more pajeet code, shit happens.

 

[Jang Joo]

>Win11
>want to bring up Powershell
>right click on the desktop
>"Forgot the shift, dumbass"
>do it right this time
>explorer crashes

Lol. Lmao. What a fucking princess OS that you can't right click the desktop twice without fucking crashing explorer. I don't have this garbage at home, I only have to deal with it at work. As long as I stay inside work related programs it's passable. Once I have to do something in the filesystem, good fucking lord it is useless. Slow. Crashy.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I installed Linux (Ubuntu) onto an old laptop a few years ago since I was told it'd make it faster. I don't know if it actually did. I've had a lot of issues with it since a lot of Windows Programs don't run or take absolutely ages to start using WINE. There's also a lot of games it can't run. Also there was some guy who told me that the company behind Ubuntu wasn't very good.
I don't like Windows 11 at all though, even after using the debloat tool. Particularly, I hate the fact you need go through 2 menus to open properties (people keep saying Indians, it reminds me of that post from the Indian thread showing Indians on Github "contributing" to projects by adding typos to readme files).

I am considering trying it on my main computer. What Linux OS is recommended for general use, like browsing the internet and gaming? Also to use heavy programs sometimes like video editors, Blender and AI stuff. One more thing, what's the best Winrar alternative for Linux?​

 

[Joe Swanson]

I am considering trying it on my main computer. What Linux OS is recommended for general use, like browsing the internet and gaming? Also to use heavy programs sometimes like video editors, Blender and AI stuff. One more thing, what's the best Winrar alternative for Linux?

Mint is generally the best noob friendly distro that largely just werks. It's basically Ubuntu with a more windows-like desktop environment and all the bad stuff* about Ubuntu ripped out

 

[The Ugly One]

I've had a lot of issues with it since a lot of Windows Programs don't run or take absolutely ages to start using WINE. There's also a lot of games it can't run.​

This is always going to be a problem running programs outside their native environment.

I don't like Windows 11 at all though, even after using the debloat tool. Particularly, I hate the fact you need go through 2 menus to open properties​

Right Click > Properties shows up for me.

I am considering trying it on my main computer.​

You can try it from within Windows: https://avivarma1.medium.com/gnome-desktop-on-wsl-2-using-ubuntu-db77635ed2aa

In fact, doing it this way, you can get all the benefits of the Linux desktop (there are none) while still running your favorite Windows programs natively.

What Linux OS is recommended for general use, like browsing the internet and gaming?​

Linux people will tear each other to shreds over this question. I use Alma. This is the Windows thread, so you should ask there.

Also to use heavy programs sometimes like video editors, Blender and AI stuff. One more thing, what's the best Winrar alternative for Linux?​

Linux has a command-line compression tool called tar that pretty much everyone uses for everything. There are others, but tar is how 99% of files get archived in Linux.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

One more thing, what's the best Winrar alternative for Linux?​

Pretty much whatever comes with your distro will do the job, but if you are struggling with a RAR file specifically then you could always install PeaZip.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

What's that windows 10 version that's like a corporate version still supported with all the spyware ripped out?
Harddrive failure so since I'm reinstalling I'll go from 7 to 10. It will never connect to the internet just play games, write documents/cad and play boomer movies on vlc.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

What's that windows 10 version that's like a corporate version still supported with all the spyware ripped out?
Harddrive failure so since I'm reinstalling I'll go from 7 to 10. It will never connect to the internet just play games, write documents/cad and play boomer movies on vlc.

LTSC

 

[Joe Swanson]

What's that windows 10 version that's like a corporate version still supported with all the spyware ripped out?
Harddrive failure so since I'm reinstalling I'll go from 7 to 10. It will never connect to the internet just play games, write documents/cad and play boomer movies on vlc.

The latest version of iot ltsc will get you 10 years of support if for whatever reason you need to update it

 

[Betonhaus]

For the past few years I've been using the Edge browser for my phone and desktop, because when I made the switch it was a fast and memory efficient browser that was better then the competition. For the past month or so I've been dealing with an annoying issue on mobile where a page would break a little whenever the keyboard is shown, and I assumed it would be a temporary bug but it hasn't gone away. The support forums at to use the beta version, which fixes the bug a little but it's still very annoying, and it hasn't improved with any of the app updates.

Has Microsoft most the ability to debug their code? Should I switch to Brave or some other browser and continue to wean myself off Microsoft products?

 

[Overly Serious]

>Win11
>want to bring up Powershell
>right click on the desktop
>"Forgot the shift, dumbass"
>do it right this time
>explorer crashes

Lol. Lmao. What a fucking princess OS that you can't right click the desktop twice without fucking crashing explorer. I don't have this garbage at home, I only have to deal with it at work. As long as I stay inside work related programs it's passable. Once I have to do something in the filesystem, good fucking lord it is useless. Slow. Crashy.

There's definitely something janky with the file system or explorer in Windows 11. On my laptop when I open an Explorer window I sometimes just get this long pause before it will actually show the files. Shows that green creeping bar along the top as if it were trying to get a network response or complete a search, but it's just a regular window on local files. Happens often enough to be annoying, not often enough to really catalogue it. I feel it's something to do with indexing but I've no idea for sure.

Someone on these forums once wrote a most excellent post about the NTFS file system and what was wrong with it, but I can no longer find it and I've never seen a better low-level critique of NTFS elsewhere. I don't know if ReFS is actually better for single user systems or not, but I'd sorely like to see some major improvement to the Windows file system. My hardware is many times more powerful than it was back in the early 2000's and file explorer worked then. I shouldn't be waiting on a response from my computers UI in this day and age, ever.

 

[Squishie PP]

I am considering trying it on my main computer. What Linux OS is recommended for general use, like browsing the internet and gaming? Also to use heavy programs sometimes like video editors, Blender and AI stuff. One more thing, what's the best Winrar alternative for Linux?​

Most linux distros will have all the necessary compression/decompression tools built into the file manager (maybe Ubuntu doesn't have this, lol.) I'm not going to shit up this thread with distro recommendations, so go to the Linux thread or PM me if you want some of the pros and cons of each.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

There's definitely something janky with the file system or explorer in Windows 11.

My work computer is so bogged down by Windows 11's dogshit that explorer crashes multiple times per day. Everything (because of my company's setup) is split between SharePoint (as URLS), a corporate OneDrive, and a personal (local?) OneDrive also associated with my corpo account.
I was happy to see that paging and multiple desktops are a thing in Windows, but very disappointed to see how fucking poorly it performs on the hardware. I think that's the culprit (still not gonna stop using them, I like to suffer.)

 

[Overly Serious]

My work computer is so bogged down by Windows 11's dogshit that explorer crashes multiple times per day. Everything (because of my company's setup) is split between SharePoint (as URLS), a corporate OneDrive, and a personal (local?) OneDrive also associated with my corpo account.
I was happy to see that paging and multiple desktops are a thing in Windows, but very disappointed to see how fucking poorly it performs on the hardware. I think that's the culprit (still not gonna stop using them, I like to suffer.)

Gods help me with OneDrive. I understand it well enough - it's not complex. But I have to help someone who has personal OneDrive and work OneDrive on the same machine and gets in a permanent tangle over it. It doubly doesn't help that Microsoft in their usual kak-handed quest to make things simpler, decided to try and hide the distinction between files on OneDrive and your local machine and pretend they're the same and everything is some global cyberspace. So any educated person naturally thinks of OneDrive as a separate file store which it is. Until you think "I have my local copy, I don't need the OneDrive version", proceeds to delete the file on OneDrive only to find that they're local copy has also gone. Which is manageable if you know that's going to happen and put things in OneDrive deliberately. Except now Windows does something insane and starts trying to default your Desktop and whatnot to be OneDrive folders behind the scenes.

It can become an absolute nightmare trying to help someone else with this stuff who has very limited understanding of things.

I'm on the edge of a new home desktop build I hope, and I'm about at the point I'm going to have to choose if I install W11 on it or go back to my roots with some variety of GNU/Linux. At the moment, I'm leaning Linux by about 60/40. Steve and Wendell (GN and L! respectively) did a video together in which one of them said Windows these days felt "adversarial". They nailed it. I really like Windows in so many ways as an OS but Microsoft are doing their best to chase an audience other than me.

 

[The Ugly One]

Gods help me with OneDrive. I understand it well enough - it's not complex. But I have to help someone who has personal OneDrive and work OneDrive on the same machine and gets in a permanent tangle over it. It doubly doesn't help that Microsoft in their usual kak-handed quest to make things simpler, decided to try and hide the distinction between files on OneDrive and your local machine and pretend they're the same and everything is some global cyberspace.

I like how OneDrive shares your desktop across multiple devices, so that whether on my laptop or my desktop, I have tons of dead shortcuts for the games I installed on one, but not the other. It seems like they did a lot of things to copy OSX without asking how Windows is different and how that might affect design decisions.

 

[Overly Serious]

I like how OneDrive shares your desktop across multiple devices, so that whether on my laptop or my desktop, I have tons of dead shortcuts for the games I installed on one, but not the other. It seems like they did a lot of things to copy OSX without asking how Windows is different and how that might affect design decisions.

I found that Asus sell their new OLED S16 Strix laptop without an OS if you want it that way. So you can save yourself a hundred quid. Or if you still want Windows buy a grey-market licence for it and save yourself eighty. I'm seriously considering getting one without and putting on Linux. And it's not because I prefer Linux - I'm proficient on both OSs and I'd take either of them over MacOS - but Windows has become a continual battle to maintain control of my own computer. This morning I went through the usual ritual of telling Microsoft again that no, I don't want you to "back up my files to OneDrive" or "choose new settings for Edge". It throws up that blue "Welcome to your new blah" every other month. They're not quite as bad as Google where every time Android updates it prompts me to start sending them all my photos and files unless I change it back to Off, but they're getting close.

Love me Windows
Love me Powershell
Hate Microsoft, Simple as...

EDIT: My W11 laptop just did that thing again where I open Explorer and all the side bar locations are not populated yet (e.g. Desktop, Downloads, C: and the rest) and the main pane in the Explorer window is empty too. Takes about five seconds of the spinning timer and then everything appears. For all the world it looks like a web app waiting for elements to load from the network.

 

[The Ugly One]

EDIT: My W11 laptop just did that thing again where I open Explorer and all the side bar locations are not populated yet (e.g. Desktop, Downloads, C: and the rest) and the main pane in the Explorer window is empty too. Takes about five seconds of the spinning timer and then everything appears. For all the world it looks like a web app waiting for elements to load from the network.

While I've never had this problem, it's crazy that it would ever do this. My Windows laptop decided this morning it couldn't find the WiFi unless I rebooted. I'm never sure which dogshit thing that happens to me is ASUS or MS's fault, though.