The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Is it worth it to try this? Every time I've turned off windows updates previously, I still get them, plus the ads that Microsoft pushes. I'm open to solutions, but I haven't really found anything that has worked. I already boot from NVMe, so that's not the issue.
if you don't want the shitty windows 11 prompts try seeing on massgrave about how to change your windows loicense to LTSC, it automatically kills the windows 11 notification, also disabling startup apps always works.
 
Sorry about that question, then. I asked because your post sounded the exact same way that retards that criticize Windows sounded like.


If you need help with bloat and Windows being a unusable piece of shit, I made this post earlier about 2 debloating scripts that I always use because they've been so effective (Along with an extra Microsoft Edge removal script that worked well)
I knew about W11D, it never really did too much more me, but I have not seen privacy.sexy. I'll test this one out too. Thank you.
 
I only really trust WinUtil as it has the most eyes on it, and Chris has a very clear cut focus on what the script should do. It shouldn't be trying to gut everything out nilly-willy, it should only bring your system to a sane baseline without breaking anything. That's what it does and it's very good at it, practically zero breakage from trying to rip out more crap than it should. And I like that, it's not like Tiny11 or some other "debloater" that's so hamfisted you end up with a half-broken install because the maintainer has decided that Windows Update or Windows Defender is "le bloat" and went out of his way with dirty methods to gut it out, breaking half of your OS. Too often people are hyperreactive towards Windows not being as good as it used to be. Every time you have fear mongering headlines about how bad Windows is, overblowing the scale of how bad it actually is, and then people get so scared of Windows being "bloated" and being "spyware" that they want to overcorrect by removing as much bloat as possible.

It also has MicroWin which aims to take a stock Win11 ISO and apply all those sanity guts directly to it so that the very moment you install Windows you start off on a nice, clean base akin to how Windows 7 used to be post-install. I think by this point most of it's issues have been alleviated so the ISO's it produces are solid. Oh yeah, and most importantly the Windows Update policy toggle so that it applies group policies that tell Windows to delay feature updates by the maximum allowed period of 2 years and security updates by 4 days. Meaning that if you're running Pro 24H2 you'll be delaying the jump to 25H2 for 2 years since those major version jumps like to break shit, and delays security updates by just enough to give a little buffer to any bad updates that may come up.

Recently Chris did a video giving a highlight to some other projects, and one of those was CrapFixer. It's stylized to look like CCleaner and applies a bunch of neat QoL registry tweaks, so it's worth checking out as well.

The reality check on Windows debloaters is this: the vast majority of "bloat" isn't the crap that's running in the background that's slowing your system down, it's either the large amount of dependencies in the Windows installation folder that's meant to ensure your system "just werks" or it's UI/UX annoyances from Microsoft. Most of the pre-installed bloat programs are just disk space wasters and that's about it. But don't expect to trim down Windows to be like 5GB and not have any issues with it. It's not Linux, it's not designed to be modular, and if you use Linux for longer you will bloat it up the more software you install so just don't bother. It also doesn't matter if your Windows folder is 40GB when you have it on a 1TB NVMe SSD. It's 2025, bulk storage is cheap.

As for spyware? Windows 10 back in 2015 introduced the entire telemetry framework that people cried about back then, yet eventually everyone moved to 10 and had no issues with Microsoft constantly collecting data on them. Then Windows 11 came around and suddenly, a moral panic! Windows Recall! Microsoft will spy on you! The exact same talking points that were thrown around back in 2015 and no one thinking logically that Microsoft has been spying on you for years, but you just got used to it due to it being out of the news cycle. The moment something pops up in the news cycle, that's when you suddenly care. If you truly cared, you would've realized that this telemetry has been in 10, cannot be disabled or removed and moved to Linux already, compromises be damned. But you didn't, because you don't actually care. You only care because the media cycle tells you to.
 
Have used WinUtil multiple times. Last time on a new install it borked itself when updating winget. Had to close and open that thing multiple times until it was happy.
 
As for spyware? Windows 10 back in 2015 introduced the entire telemetry framework that people cried about back then
Not to mention that it was backported to Windows 7, and unless you did a bunch of homework every Patch Tuesday you'd end up with the telemetry surreptitiously slipped in.
 
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this is a drugs dood moment for some artist to rumor up on windows 12, nothing official, also people are really thinking microjeet will push windows 12 by 2026, hue.
not to mention the rumors that it will be a always online OS shieet, i was going to say it's retarded but we are talking about jeets, saars, so yeah...
 
this is a drugs dood moment for some artist to rumor up on windows 12, nothing official, also people are really thinking microjeet will push windows 12 by 2026, hue.
not to mention the rumors that it will be a always online OS shieet, i was going to say it's retarded but we are talking about jeets, saars, so yeah...
God don't get me started on Windows 12 rumors. People were fear mongering that it would come out last fucking year and that it would be so much worse than 11 already is. Yet there is not a single fucking piece of evidence directly from Redmond that Windows 12 is in any ways even being thought of.

And again, a second of logical thought instead of fearful spergery, something that most are incapable of, will make you realize that no, always online Windows isn't going to be a thing. There might be a Windows 12 Home that's always online, but they are absolutely not abandoning local installs. Even with the MS Account requirement, with Windows 11 any other version than Home has the option to make a local account. Granted they've buried it in a way where you have to know that it's there, but it's there. And also enterprise users and LTSC, they'd never let an always online Windows pass, they need on-site reliability.

People exaggerating how evil and sinister Windows 11 is without ever touching it is one thing. People exaggerating how evil and sinister this next version that isn't even planned will be is even worse. Microsoft could genuinely sue all the retarded media outlets for their Windows 12 rumor mill being defamatory and they could win it's so fucking mind-numbingly stupid and false.
 
I cannot describe how MATI I am right now.

I recently bought a new laptop to replace my old one, it had a good run but unfortunately the frame nor the screen can stand anymore. I bought a new one and it came prepackaged with Windows 11 which had so much bloatware, even NordVPN was included by default. After some fucking around in the BIOS due to it not detecting my drives and not before installing Windows 10 Home over the thing through the .exe on Microsoft's website, I managed to install Windows 10 LTSC.
Now the thing is, this isn't Windows 10 LTSC IoT, and I figured this out way too late. I found out that a bunch of drivers got wiped, including the one for Wi-Fi, and I've spent the last 2 hours trying to debug the thing or even get info on what network card it uses so I can install the right driver, I even installed an old Win10 22H ISO I had and still nothing. I am in a state of MATI-ness that shouldn't be possible, and all of it has been prolonged by shitty proprietary bloatware. Point is, I have my old computer so I CAN transfer over drivers but I don't know which one is for the internet nevermind what my network card's model is, SystemInfo has nothing and the only thing I can find in it is the Ethernet driver which is still there.

Point is, I need tech sapport saars. How would I go about restoring my drivers? I still have the old windows.old folders that contain old files but I need admin priviliges to move them into sys32 which I'm SUPPOSED to have but I don't since local accounts don't count appearantly.
 
Has anyone here had experience with Windows 11 and a red tint that appears on the screen? I have a surface pro 11 OLED and I turned it on Wednesday and my screen has a red/rose tint permanently. It reminds me of the Kenny Rodgers roasters episode of Seinfeld.

I have reinstalled graphics drivers, the nightlight is not on, there are no color profiles selected, I have tried to roll back windows updates and nothing has worked.
 
After some fucking around in the BIOS due to it not detecting my drives and not before installing Windows 10 Home over the thing through the .exe on Microsoft's website, I managed to install Windows 10 LTSC.
Now the thing is, this isn't Windows 10 LTSC IoT, and I figured this out way too late. I found out that a bunch of drivers got wiped, including the one for Wi-Fi, and I've spent the last 2 hours trying to debug the thing or even get info on what network card it uses so I can install the right driver, I even installed an old Win10 22H ISO I had and still nothing. I am in a state of MATI-ness that shouldn't be possible, and all of it has been prolonged by shitty proprietary bloatware. Point is, I have my old computer so I CAN transfer over drivers but I don't know which one is for the internet nevermind what my network card's model is, SystemInfo has nothing and the only thing I can find in it is the Ethernet driver which is still there.

Point is, I need tech sapport saars. How would I go about restoring my drivers? I still have the old windows.old folders that contain old files but I need admin priviliges to move them into sys32 which I'm SUPPOSED to have but I don't since local accounts don't count appearantly.
Running some variant of the command pnputil /enum-devices in a command prompt should show the PCI vendor and device ID for the wireless card to help determine what driver you need for it. The support website for the specific make & model of your laptop should have a driver download section which might list what your wireless chipset is.

Are you sure there is a Windows 10 driver for your Wifi card? It might be Windows 11 only if you have newer hardware. 6GHz support for Wifi 6E and 7 is not in Windows 10 and will never be backported to that OS. If you are stuck with Windows 11, there is a IoT Enterprise LTSC version of it you could try. I don't have any experience with Windows 11 LTSC but I would assume it isn't as horrible as Windows 11 Home.
 
I cannot describe how MATI I am right now.

I recently bought a new laptop to replace my old one, it had a good run but unfortunately the frame nor the screen can stand anymore. I bought a new one and it came prepackaged with Windows 11 which had so much bloatware, even NordVPN was included by default. After some fucking around in the BIOS due to it not detecting my drives and not before installing Windows 10 Home over the thing through the .exe on Microsoft's website, I managed to install Windows 10 LTSC.
Now the thing is, this isn't Windows 10 LTSC IoT, and I figured this out way too late. I found out that a bunch of drivers got wiped, including the one for Wi-Fi, and I've spent the last 2 hours trying to debug the thing or even get info on what network card it uses so I can install the right driver, I even installed an old Win10 22H ISO I had and still nothing. I am in a state of MATI-ness that shouldn't be possible, and all of it has been prolonged by shitty proprietary bloatware. Point is, I have my old computer so I CAN transfer over drivers but I don't know which one is for the internet nevermind what my network card's model is, SystemInfo has nothing and the only thing I can find in it is the Ethernet driver which is still there.

Point is, I need tech sapport saars. How would I go about restoring my drivers? I still have the old windows.old folders that contain old files but I need admin priviliges to move them into sys32 which I'm SUPPOSED to have but I don't since local accounts don't count appearantly.
I have a USB drive somewhere that has this along with all possible network drivers predownloaded, it was pretty handy - just be very careful with the upgrades and optional installs.

The full pack is 44 gb but i think if you just download network drivers it's like 5gb max?
 
Has anyone here had experience with Windows 11 and a red tint that appears on the screen? I have a surface pro 11 OLED and I turned it on Wednesday and my screen has a red/rose tint permanently. It reminds me of the Kenny Rodgers roasters episode of Seinfeld.

I have reinstalled graphics drivers, the nightlight is not on, there are no color profiles selected, I have tried to roll back windows updates and nothing has worked.
Sounds like something busted in the LED itself.
 
6GHz support for Wifi 6E and 7 is not in Windows 10 and will never be backported to that OS
chinks disagree with you.
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I don't have any experience with Windows 11 LTSC but I would assume it isn't as horrible as Windows 11 Home.
aside from drive issues that you need to fix it yourself, it's pretty much a debloated windows 11.
 
Are you sure there is a Windows 10 driver for your Wifi card? It might be Windows 11 only if you have newer hardware. 6GHz support for Wifi 6E and 7 is not in Windows 10 and will never be backported to that OS. If you are stuck with Windows 11, there is a IoT Enterprise LTSC version of it you could try. I don't have any experience with Windows 11 LTSC but I would assume it isn't as horrible as Windows 11 Home.
A hundred percent sure, when I installed Windows 10 Home over 11 (Before LTSC) the internet worked just fine, infact all the drivers did. It's only after LTSC that it shat the bed.
I have a USB drive somewhere that has this along with all possible network drivers predownloaded, it was pretty handy - just be very careful with the upgrades and optional installs.

The full pack is 44 gb but i think if you just download network drivers it's like 5gb max?
I'll try this out, thanks. Assuming everything goes poorly, I can always install Linux since it comes with its own drivers during install and take things from there.

Edit: Worked like a charm, even got some extra drivers out of it. @Betonhaus you're an absolute lifesaver. Now I just gotta figure how to install a network driver onto my Linux boot and I'll be golden.
 
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Has anyone here had experience with Windows 11 and a red tint that appears on the screen? I have a surface pro 11 OLED and I turned it on Wednesday and my screen has a red/rose tint permanently. It reminds me of the Kenny Rodgers roasters episode of Seinfeld.

I have reinstalled graphics drivers, the nightlight is not on, there are no color profiles selected, I have tried to roll back windows updates and nothing has worked.
Can you do screen refresh? I've gotten that red tint before with my OLED monitor, i've screen refreshed to unfuck it.
 
The Windows update SSD fuckery might be worse than we thought. I'm so glad I shut off updates a few months back and won't be turning them back on ever.
 
The Windows update SSD fuckery might be worse than we thought. I'm so glad I shut off updates a few months back and won't be turning them back on ever.
Wait, so if I'm getting this right, it doesn't cause any hardware failure, but rather it causes some RAM charge type issue that is solved by power cycling? I'm not saying that suddenly makes it a non-issue, but all the fear mongering revolving around this made me think it actually damages the hardware. A power cycle clearing any leftover data and bringing it back to life isn't great, but it isn't as terrible as it could've been either.
 
Wait, so if I'm getting this right, it doesn't cause any hardware failure, but rather it causes some RAM charge type issue that is solved by power cycling? I'm not saying that suddenly makes it a non-issue, but all the fear mongering revolving around this made me think it actually damages the hardware. A power cycle clearing any leftover data and bringing it back to life isn't great, but it isn't as terrible as it could've been either.
People don't really know what's going on. The NVME he was using shouldn't have been effected and yet it is. Microsoft has no idea because the jeet code is so shitty they can't decipher it. It could be damaging your drives or the next update will fix it and everything will be great. At this point I'd suggest shutting off all updates permanently.
 
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