The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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If you're doing full formats and you haven't used 11 before, try using 11 IoT LTSC and see how that goes. I'm on 10 IoT LTSC on my desktop since I don't have a major need to move to 24H2 just yet.
I used Windows 11 for a few years. Then I switched to Linux a few days ago but I don't care for it so I think I'll return to 10.
 
Does anyone currently use Windows 10? I'm debating wether or not I should return to 10 or 11 after trying Linux Mint for a few days.
10 IoT will run for another six years, 11 IoT will run for another nine years. Choose whatever suits you and your hardware best.
 
I used Windows 11 for a few years. Then I switched to Linux a few days ago but I don't care for it so I think I'll return to 10.
My main computer is 10 for now and I got Debian on a laptop. If you have a spare computer, I'd recommend that to try different Linux versions. I didn't like Mint or Ubuntu, I tried a few DEs, eventually settled on one. But the biggest hurdle is that Linux is a different OS, no mather how much you make it look like Windows. So you do need to give it a proper try for a few weeks and learn it and get acustomed.
 
My main computer is 10 for now and I got Debian on a laptop. If you have a spare computer, I'd recommend that to try different Linux versions. I didn't like Mint or Ubuntu, I tried a few DEs, eventually settled on one. But the biggest hurdle is that Linux is a different OS, no mather how much you make it look like Windows. So you do need to give it a proper try for a few weeks and learn it and get acustomed.
I've used Windowmaker and Openbox on Debian for years. It's insane to me that someone would recommend CachyOS as a first time lunix distro, being Arch based. I don't like their packaging or commands, even though I have tolerated them for use throughout the years.

If you have any qualms, just use Windows 10 IOT LTSC until 2032. Software is going to start not being supported at some point (Steam) just like they did with Windows 7, but it is still a net positive currently compared to 11 in any flavor.
 
In my opinion, Linux is less about the distro and more about the desktop environment for most users coming from Windows. Some have hyperfocused on a single DE and others let you run anything. In just a few keypresses I can switch to probably 10 different desktop environments without reinstalling.

On the other hand, sometimes people hate them all and just want Windows 3.1. And that's fine too.
 
In my opinion, Linux is not and should not be a Windows competitor if it's not aiming for software ecosystem parity. You can only go so far putting on a facade of Windows with desktop environments when you can't run any EXE that you could on Windows and when this facade is still at war with itself in terms of how it should render itself: X11 or Wayland. And then you have this Windows user begrudgingly moving back to Windows after Linux wasn't what it was advertised to him, and when he went to look for help he got laughed at for thinking it would be a drop-in Windows replacement after everyone told him that it's "totally like Windows".

At best, Linux is an alternative. In the same sense macOS is an alternative to Windows, technically similar but completely different. But for some reason the Linux community insists on marketing Linux distros as if they were drop-in replacements for Windows, ReactOS style, which they will never be.

At least one thing Linux doesn't have to worry about is lawsuits for false advertising, because by this point the total settlements would've been in the trillions.
 
What's the purpose of the rounded corners?
For app windows, I'd say they are easier to grab with the mouse cursor, and they make it clearer whether something is maximized or not, and whether some edge is the top or bottom edge (or left or right edge) in areas where there are only two colors.

And for buttons, I'd say they make it clearer what element is supposed to be clickable.
 
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That's pretty much all everybody wants, except for me. I want Windows 8.
Are you aware of Windows 10/ Windows 11 Tablet Mode?
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Not as good as windows 8, but it has similar use cases.
 
In my opinion, Linux is not and should not be a Windows competitor if it's not aiming for software ecosystem parity. You can only go so far putting on a facade of Windows with desktop environments when you can't run any EXE that you could on Windows and when this facade is still at war with itself in terms of how it should render itself: X11 or Wayland. And then you have this Windows user begrudgingly moving back to Windows after Linux wasn't what it was advertised to him, and when he went to look for help he got laughed at for thinking it would be a drop-in Windows replacement after everyone told him that it's "totally like Windows".

At best, Linux is an alternative. In the same sense macOS is an alternative to Windows, technically similar but completely different. But for some reason the Linux community insists on marketing Linux distros as if they were drop-in replacements for Windows, ReactOS style, which they will never be.

At least one thing Linux doesn't have to worry about is lawsuits for false advertising, because by this point the total settlements would've been in the trillions.
I wish I heard that before I switched.
 
And then you have this Windows user begrudgingly moving back to Windows after Linux wasn't what it was advertised to him, and when he went to look for help he got laughed at for thinking it would be a drop-in Windows replacement after everyone told him that it's "totally like Windows".
My favorite is when people are told "switch to Linux, that fixes it" when they are mad that some favorite game or app dropped support for some 10-year-old version of Windows when most commercial Linux applications won't work if your Linux is more than maybe one major release out of date.
 
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At best, Linux is an alternative. In the same sense macOS is an alternative to Windows, technically similar but completely different. But for some reason the Linux community insists on marketing Linux distros as if they were drop-in replacements for Windows, ReactOS style, which they will never be.
An autistic skill-blindness pervades Linux enthusiast communities, it reminds me of my grandfather being flabbergasted that anyone wouldn't wire their own shop or do maintenance on their own car, he was just too much of an aspie to realize that 1. not everyone can be adept at all that and 2. even if they all were adept, they wouldn't necessarily find it worth their time versus paying someone else to do it.

Same thing with OSes, there's plenty of aspies so wrapped up in likeminded communities that they've forgotten spending an hour looking up WINE documentation and tweaking configurations just to (try to) run an old CD-ROM game is profoundly abnormal, alienating and unengaging to most PC users.
 
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At best, Linux is an alternative. In the same sense macOS is an alternative to Windows, technically similar but completely different. But for some reason the Linux community insists on marketing Linux distros as if they were drop-in replacements for Windows, ReactOS style, which they will never be.

MacOS has a reason to commend itself, and that's that it integrates into iEverything. If you've got an iPhone and iPad, making it play nice with an iMac or Macbook is easier than a Windows box. Additionally, MacOS comes with a nice suite of ready-to-use apps that are, in general, better than their Windows alternatives, and the OS itself is generally a cleaner, smoother, less bug-riddled, less retard-infected experience.

Desktop Linux? Aside from privacy maxxing, there's nothing practical to commend it.
  1. There are no Linux-exclusive apps worth a damn. Zero. None.
  2. Linux DEs are all messes of inconsistent UI and the obsessions of individual maintainers made law
  3. Any hope of consistent feature support and improvement is exemplified by the Wayland/X fiasco
  4. Version to version compatibility is so bad that everything breaks if your Linux is more than about a year or two out of date. Any Linux user telling you that you can escape the hellish world of mandatory updates by switching to Linux is straight-up lying.
  5. Bugs, bugs, and more bugs, Linux DE world is a trash fire of bugs and workarounds
  6. It's higher-maintenance
  7. No, Linux doesn't have better compatibility with old Windows software than Win 11. Wine and Compatibility Mode both have lots of edge cases...and half the Windows edge cases Linux evangelists talk about actually work fine in Compatibility Mode, whoever was complaining just never realized it was there.
The main reason to use a Linux DE is always ideological (like you're morally opposed to closed-source software or something), and any argument for using Linux always devolves into the evangelist admitting that it sucks shit, but it's worth dealing with all the ways it sucks because then you get to say you use Linux.
 
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