The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

[Slav Power]

>NT6
So, reaching Windows Vista that released almost two decades ago. Meanwhile all the retarded hacky bullshit Linux pulls off to run Win32 software lets you play Cyberpunk 2077 with better FPS because Vulkan is magic and solves the shitty overhead CDPR's code monkeys introduced in their shitty DX12 wrapper. I don't know what the fuck is their plan with the project if this is the point of progress they're at. We're well over a decade into NT10 being the dominant kernel version and they're just catching up with Vista.

As for loss32, sounds like as much of a meme as the one it's referring to. Wine itself is a heap of shit so bad that Valve had to fork it to create Proton since the FOSS community refused to do actual coding work. Trying to uproot the entirety of Linux's ecosystem and leaving only Wine will give you an even worse experience than using nothing but Linux. At this point stop being an ideologically driven bitch and just install Windows.

 

[the rat]

So, reaching Windows Vista that released almost two decades ago. Meanwhile all the retarded hacky bullshit Linux pulls off to run Win32 software lets you play Cyberpunk 2077 with better FPS because Vulkan is magic and solves the shitty overhead CDPR's code monkeys introduced in their shitty DX12 wrapper. I don't know what the fuck is their plan with the project if this is the point of progress they're at. We're well over a decade into NT10 being the dominant kernel version and they're just catching up with Vista.

Has Win32 changed all that much since Vista? I remember there was an effort to backport a bunch of shit from 7 to Vista to make some new things work.

But really, have they even reached full Server 2003 compatibility yet? Something is telling me that NO they haven't.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

Even MS paint.

 

[They were once men]

Has anyone had the issue were the win11 settings menu randomly takes 50% or more of cpu resource whilst doing nothing and this is on a good CPU mind you Ryzen 5 7600

 

[Sooty Soot]

Will provide more updates soon.

Tried hooking it via Ethernet, no dice, network doesn't work at all. Unless I get my hands on a program that at least modifies the base level of Windows' network shit, I'm out of luck and will have to do a full reset of Windows, touchpad also doesn't work for some reason but that's the least of my concerns. Alternatively, I could uninstall my network driver completely and see if that fixes it somehow, but I highly doubt it will considering not even Ethernet works. Oh well, it's not the worst thing in the world, I can copy stuff I find important and fully reinstall LTSC. Moral of the story? Never trust Windows with jackshit.

 

[snowdunes]

Has anyone had the issue were the win11 settings menu randomly takes 50% or more of cpu resource whilst doing nothing and this is on a good CPU mind you Ryzen 5 7600

Yes, on the university workshop PC's. Can't do shit about it since we are not allowed to break stuff.

 

[Slav Power]

Even MS paint.

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People will look at this and go "Microsoft is evil and wants to force you to use AI". I just see that they have no idea what the fuck they're doing anymore.

I can guaran-fucking-tee you that within a week or two they'll be fixing this since this was an unintended fuckup and the CoPilot+ dependency was a Pajeet hitting a wrong button, but by then everyone will forget this reversal happened and will keep acting like Paint is still gone from non-AI PC's just to have another reason to bitch about Microsoft.

 

[Sooty Soot]

People will look at this and go "Microsoft is evil and wants to force you to use AI". I just see that they have no idea what the fuck they're doing anymore.

I can guaran-fucking-tee you that within a week or two they'll be fixing this since this was an unintended fuckup and the CoPilot+ dependency was a Pajeet hitting a wrong button, but by then everyone will forget this reversal happened and will keep acting like Paint is still gone from non-AI PC's just to have another reason to bitch about Microsoft.

By 2030, all signs in Microsoft-owned buildings will need to be labelled in both English and Hindi.

 

[geckogoy]

People will look at this and go "Microsoft is evil and wants to force you to use AI". I just see that they have no idea what the fuck they're doing anymore.

I can guaran-fucking-tee you that within a week or two they'll be fixing this since this was an unintended fuckup and the CoPilot+ dependency was a Pajeet hitting a wrong button, but by then everyone will forget this reversal happened and will keep acting like Paint is still gone from non-AI PC's just to have another reason to bitch about Microsoft.

You'll probably still be coping that the main issue with microsoft is the occasional gaffe and not the fact that its run by retarded nigger jeets who make constant, steadily worsening mistakes which will eventually kill not only the OS but the entire company

 

[Overly Serious]

Even MS paint.

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MS Clipchamp. It's shameful that I used it at all but sometimes it was a quick and convenient way to clip some segment to share out of a video. Started it up the other day and they've removed any ability to output the files locally, so far as I can see. It only works with online files.

Fuck. That. Shit.

I came close to ditching Windows as my mainstay early last year. Did a few weeks on Debian before deciding to go back. But every month it gets closer to taking another swing at it. It's not like I don't know my way around it.

 

[Slav Power]

You'll probably still be coping that the main issue with microsoft is the occasional gaffe and not the fact that its run by retarded nigger jeets who make constant, steadily worsening mistakes which will eventually kill not only the OS but the entire company

Former is a result of the latter. The difference is that the only competitor (and it is a competitor despite what some folks want people to believe, otherwise they wouldn't constantly compare themselves to Windows) chooses to not improve itself and instead hoping that Windows gets so shit that people will move to the shit competitor on the merit that iy's less shit, but it will still be shit.

So far the Pajeets didn't manage to fuck WinNT bad enough that it's shittiness exceeded it's competitor so it's still the lesser evil.

 

[geckogoy]

Former is a result of the latter. The difference is that the only competitor (and it is a competitor despite what some folks want people to believe, otherwise they wouldn't constantly copare themselves to Windows) chooses to not improve itself and instead hoping that Windows gets so shit that people will move to the shit competitor on the merit that iy's less shit, but it will still be shit.

So far the Pajeets didn't manage to fuck WinNT bad enough that it's shittiness exceeded it's competitor so it's still the lesser evil.

"Good thing linux (or whatever other thing I'm nebulously referencing) hasn't improved at all in the past ten years otherwise windows might be in trouble"

 

[Slav Power]

or whatever other thing I'm nebulously referencing

There is only one alternative for a desktop OS on x86 machines. No need to name it, especially when it'll inevitably name itself.

hasn't improved at all in the past ten years

Linux gaming is still a 50/50 and is only possible thanks to corporate interest since the Linux community despises writing code, the Wayland enshittification continues and you won't win people over by telling them to buy a new GPU to have a working DE when over 90% of the market is Nvidia, and it still can't run shit like Adobe or Autodesk and you won't win people over by telling them to use an objectively inferior FOSS alternative like GIMP or FreeCAD. Also ALSA sucks dick and no one wants to come up with a better audio framework.

If Linux doesn't manage to step it's Win32 compatibility up to at least Win7 era and won't solve it's decades old issues it keeps pretending are non-issues the same old spiel will continue and Windows will stay dominant no matter how shit it gets.

Feel free to piss and shit your pants over this opinion for the n-th time. Just don't forget this is the Windows thread so I'm free to shittalk Linux as much as I want.

 

[geckogoy]

If Linux doesn't manage to step it's Win32 compatibility up to at least Win7 era

It doesn't actually need anywhere near win7 era compatibility, just better win7 era compatibility than win11 has

 

[Slav Power]

It doesn't actually need anywhere near win7 era compatibility, just better win7 era compatibility than win11 has

If it can't run MS Office, AutoCAD and Adobe CC it won't take over Windows' market share since most of it is for actual professional work and not gaming and tinkering. The sooner Linux community shakes their delusions, follows Valve's example and starts writing code worth a shit then we can talk about Linux taking over Windows, but so far it's determined to give people no good choices, only two barely working heaps of shit.

 

[Baraka Obama]

So far the Pajeets didn't manage to fuck WinNT bad enough that it's shittiness exceeded it's competitor so it's still the lesser evil.

So I gotta say I tried your style of Windows 11 install: IoT Enterprise LTSC, Massgrave activated, debloot script run multiple times, a bajillion tweaks run, and I managed to get it into a state where it's actually tolerable and not actively bothering me all the time. Even got baseline memory use and # of processes under control.

Biggest things that made it more usable was:

1. fully nuking Windows/Microsoft Defender which took multiple rounds of effort, finally made right clicking and opening things not intolerably slow
2. deleting all knowledge windows has of media formats in the registry so that explorer can open a folder with 100 video files and not chug the fuck down opening all of them to find metadata on how long they are in mins/hours -- this completely fixed the "working on it" problems I have with explorer, still not as fast as Windows 7 explorer but it's actually usable now
3. retrobar making a small icon taskbar with quicklaunch competent and not ugly with 1.5x hidpi scaling
4. restoring as many old windows programs as I could including the task manager, control panel, paint, calc, solitaire, etc

I need to try this again on my desktop that is stubbornly running Windows 7 and make a folder with all the tweaks I did because it would be nice to make this easier to replicate -- seems very workable for as long as IoT LTSC is supported.

 

[Slav Power]

deleting all knowledge windows has of media formats in the registry so that explorer can open a folder with 100 video files and not chug the fuck down opening all of them to find metadata on how long they are in mins/hours -- this completely fixed the "working on it" problems I have with explorer, still not as fast as Windows 7 explorer but it's actually usable now

I tend to install K-Lite Codec Pack as it comes with it's own thumbnail generator and since Total Commander relies on native Windows API's to fetch them it immensely improves the perfornance of browsing media folders. No clue about how fucked Win11's Explorer is since I don't even touch the Win10 one, I'm always fully in the OFM comfort zone.

K-Lite is also good for media in general. Comes with an active fork of MPC-HC and all the pre-configured codecs for it that you'd want. It also supports Nvidia Super Resolution if you have an RTX GPU.

EDIT: Also recommend System Informer as a task manager alternative, probably the most robust alternative there is that also has other features integrated, like a debugger, network monitor, device manager and many more.

EDIT2: Oh yeah and PySolFC for all your card and Mahjong game needs. Also fend if you want a robust but autistic calculator.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I tend to install K-Lite Codec Pack as it comes with it's own thumbnail generator and since Total Commander relies on native Windows API's to fetch them it immensely improves the perfornance of browsing media folders. No clue about how fucked Win11's Explorer is since I don't even touch the Win10 one, I'm always fully in the OFM comfort zone.

It's not the thumbnail generator, it's built in shell extensions explorer has to read file medata... theoretically useful but it only uses this to display basic info about video length or photo resolution, and if you have a folder with n > ~20 it just takes forever to open each file individually and read that data from each file, and seems to get exponentially worse as n increases. I have some folders with thousands of photos and they open instantly in default Windows 7 explorer but take forever in Win10/11 and chug as you scroll. By deleting all of the shell extension media handlers I still get thumbnails (which lazy load) but navigation is completely fixed.

K-Lite is also good for media in general. Comes with an active fork of MPC-HC and all the pre-configured codecs for it that you'd want. It also supports Nvidia Super Resolution if you have an RTX GPU.

I use mpv and have it configured to use a single instance, have a right click menu via a script, and have some sane res defaults. Faster and nicer interface than mpc-hc.

 

[The Ugly One]

@Slav Power is Total Commander the Explorer replacement you use? Been thinking about trying an alternative, since it is well and truly fucked in 11.

 

[jeff7989]

This makes Slav shit his pants: