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I've been trying to write or continue writing a story about a pompous journalist and his decent into madness as he finds himself disillusioned with the world around him. Learning things he wish he hadn't now having to carry the burden of that knowledge, the more he knows the less he wishes he did. But that's as much I'll go into detail aside from the fact that's basically all I got LOL.
 
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I'm contemplating writing a comic book about the aftermath of the collapse of society due to people getting super powers (due to a fundamental change in the laws of physics) and immediately abusing them, which caused the governments of the worlds to start resorting to increasingly drastic measures to protect their own interest, eventually being destroyed in a nuclear war created by the governments against their own (superpowered) citizens in order to save themselves from being toppled. After the dust settles (and some forty years pass) the story focuses on a mutated, twisted orphan (the 'son') and his life, as he is raised by a defective supersoldier (the 'father') from before the apocalypse, and being taught and trained to fight and kill the remaining people with super powers while the 'father' builds a machine to hopefully force reality back into line and make super powers impossible again.

The 'father' is killed and the machine's first incarnation is destroyed, but the 'son' survives, and the book focuses on his quest to rebuild the machine, undo the damage, and essentially force reality to bend back into shape. Then things get really weird at the end since you can't build a universe engine out of scrap metal and expect things to go alright.
 
Is this purely for prose? Or can we discuss writing comic scripts? Because I’ve been working on a comic outline, but Im just having a devil of a time getting into a proper format.
 
Trying to write a story for the first time in a while, but really not sure how to begin it. Basic premise: guy goes to fantasy world, gets arrested for being human, only way to avoid execution is to do certain tasks. The problem is my vehicle for getting him to the fantasy world was that he was sick of his life, and so he gets singled out by someone who sends him there against his will. Problem is: if the guy doesn't want to live, why would he choose life over death when he gets presented with that opportunity while locked up? I'm not sure how better to do this, as I want him to be unsatisfied with his existence because it plays into the overarching theme. Any idea how I can straddle the line between 'hopeless but not too hopeless'?
He could always just “fall” or find himself suddenly in the new world, like he falls through a portal. You can always work through the cosmic reasoning later, but maybe just being tossed into a new environment could make him realize there is more to life and more worth living for
 
He could always just “fall” or find himself suddenly in the new world, like he falls through a portal. You can always work through the cosmic reasoning later, but maybe just being tossed into a new environment could make him realize there is more to life and more worth living for

He doesn't even have to get to the worth living for thing yet. He could just be enamored with all the magical shit that he wants to get out the situation to explore it. (That's probably what you meant, but I was sure. Sorry!)
 
I’ve been planning to a really gritty Luigi fanfic that was inspired by Old Man Logan.

It opens with Mario and Luigi attempting to rescue Peach from Bowser, but Peach kills Mario and Bowser during the battle and decides to rule the Mushroom and Koopa kingdoms with an iron fist. Luigi goes into hiding until 20 years later, after a nightmare makes him decide to jump back into action and liberate the kingdoms from Peach’s reign.

It would reference many areas of Mario lore from the normal games to Paper Mario to Mario and Luigi.

I’ve got some good notes down and many of the plot points, but going any deeper would delve into spoiler territory.
Lol what? Mario's gonna say the fuck word and curbstomp the goombas?
 
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Does anyone know how litigious the Zorro people are? Would they come after someone who self publishes a kids' book?

The idea I have doesn't even involve actual Zorro (two brothers dress up like "historic" characters and do vigilante things) and one of them just happens to choose a Zorro costume most of the time.
 
Does anyone know how litigious the Zorro people are? Would they come after someone who self publishes a kids' book?

The idea I have doesn't even involve actual Zorro (two brothers dress up like "historic" characters and do vigilante things) and one of them just happens to choose a Zorro costume most of the time.


IIRC, isn't Zorro in the same weird copyright limbo that Fu Manchu, Conan the Barbarian, and the Cthulhu Mythos are in, where parts of it are in the public domain but most of the later stuff is still under copyright in the United States? A lot of early 20th Century works are like that.

I'd have to double-check to be sure, but it may be a case where as long as you don't use certain elements or characters from later novels or publish them in certain formats, you're clear to go.

Fu Manchu is a public domain character, but Alan Moore couldn't mention him by name in his League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic because Marvel had the specific comic rights to his franchise going back to their kung fu comics in the 70's.

TSR hit a similar snag with the Cthulhu Mythos when they included it in the old Deities & Demigods book for Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, since Call of Cthulhu was in development and Chaosium had the gaming rights to the Mythos as the time.
 
IIRC, isn't Zorro in the same weird copyright limbo that Fu Manchu, Conan the Barbarian, and the Cthulhu Mythos are in, where
It's a bit of a tricky one - the first book and I think the first movie are in the public domain, but the IP holders are protective


The site seems generally a bit … unprofessional? And if they won't even enter discussions with self publishers, they surely can't complain about it happening, especially when the character isn't "actual" Zorro but a glorified cosplayer....
 
I would like to write an isekai story where the setting isn't a fantasy video game world, but the setting is some wild west steampunk world

After watching a ton of isekai I've been thinking on story ideas a lot. One idea is more in the formative stages and puts the traditional isekai idea on its head and basically becomes a horror story.

A more formative one I've been been thinking out is where the protagonist in a Japanese teenager in 1985, who gets transported to a cyberpunk-dystopia, fantasy world, in 1985 New York (Think 1980s New York with all the crime and corruption. Now add in cyberpunk and magic). Some stranger knows who he is and shoots him in the chest before shooting himself in the head. Turns out to hop dimensions you have to die, and rich people pay poor people (the money going to their families) to hop dimensions and get them things they want. Particularly people. In this world, magic users are rare. They're in isolated communities (think the Amish) who can't be cybered up or use any fancy gear because their bodies have become allergic to technology thanks to centuries of pollution. Normally they're thought of as idiotic, do nothing country bumpkins. However, they have their uses. The rich use mages to search for certain individuals who are compatible with magic and tech in other universes and kidnap them. They're called 'assets', and they're used for human experimentation, their organs sold off, or turned into hollowed out, living weapons. They're also the only ones who can use ancient tech that incorporated magic as well as technology. Since they're not considered residents or citizens, they're literal aliens, therefore they have no rights. So its legal to do anything you want with them. Because the stranger didn't instantly kill him, the teleportation was off and now he's running for his life. From the people that brought him here, to opportunists who'd sell him to the highest bidders, to human slavers.

Trying to write a story for the first time in a while, but really not sure how to begin it. Basic premise: guy goes to fantasy world, gets arrested for being human, only way to avoid execution is to do certain tasks. The problem is my vehicle for getting him to the fantasy world was that he was sick of his life, and so he gets singled out by someone who sends him there against his will. Problem is: if the guy doesn't want to live, why would he choose life over death when he gets presented with that opportunity while locked up? I'm not sure how better to do this, as I want him to be unsatisfied with his existence because it plays into the overarching theme. Any idea how I can straddle the line between 'hopeless but not too hopeless'?

For me, you have to make him not be able to die. Obviously if someone is going to kill themselves, then they go to a shitter place, they're just going to kill themselves again. Death is regarded as a privilege for human scum, and only carried out by the state. He receives a curse, whereupon he cannot die. No authority but the state can kill him. However, any injury or wound that would kill him is made a hundred times more painful. And bleeding out isn't loss of consciousnesses, it's pure fire flowing from your veins, making you need to heal any injury you receive.

Of course, you can negate the pain thing and make it a bit lighter hearted by having a ground-hog day montage of him trying to kill himself, but it being utterly impossible. Push it on him as something he HAS to do. Then you can have him just look forward to the days going up to his execution, but then find a reason for him to want to live, to escape the fate he's been given.
 
Anyone ever have strange inspirations for stories?

I've been feeling nostalgic lately and I decided to look back on one of my favorite books when I was a little kid, the I Spy series of picture books from back in the 90's.

The Walter Wick photos in particular is the thing that really inspires me. The scenery in each of those books is amazingly detailed, considering it was all done with miniatures, toys, and everyday objects and trinkets on dioramas that Wick himself built by hand.

Looking back, the pictures in the I Spy books are beautiful but also eerie in that dreamlike sense, and several people online have said the same thing. Like they have an unsettling yet also serene feeling.

I want to write a story that evokes the similar unsettling dreamlike quality, which is a lot harder to do with a non-visual medium.

Specifically, I'm thinking of making it a weird mix of horror, adventure, and possibly some light elements of urban fantasy and I'm also contemplating an isekai story, but not in the usual way it's done.

The story would be told in a first-person view, I think that could probably work better in getting the sense of emptiness and loneliness just right. It'd be a limited view, with the readers finding out alongside the protagonist.

I'm considering a few cliches like an amnesiac protagonist if I include isekai elements.
 
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It's a bit of a tricky one - the first book and I think the first movie are in the public domain, but the IP holders are protective


The site seems generally a bit … unprofessional? And if they won't even enter discussions with self publishers, they surely can't complain about it happening, especially when the character isn't "actual" Zorro but a glorified cosplayer....
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It seems it'll be fine as long as it's explicitly clear the character is not Zorro, and like I said upthread, it's just a rough costume one of the two boys takes on for their vigilante stuff (the other being Robin Hood)

The Zorro company is actually owned by the original creator's kids, which is probably why they're so protective of it. But the actual answer to whether or not you can use Zorro if you're not copying anything specific is "Yes, but really no, but really actually yes"

I wouldn't be so bothered, but 1) it's the principle, establishing a rule like that makes it deserve to be broken tbh
 
Anyone ever have strange inspirations for stories?

I've been feeling nostalgic lately and I decided to look back on one of my favorite books when I was a little kid, the I Spy series of picture books from back in the 90's.

The Walter Wick photos in particular is the thing that really inspires me. The scenery in each of those books is amazingly detailed, considering it was all done with miniatures, toys, and everyday objects and trinkets on dioramas that Wick himself built by hand.

Looking back, the pictures in the I Spy books are beautiful but also eerie in that dreamlike sense, and several people online have said the same thing. Like they have an unsettling yet also serene feeling.

I want to write a story that evokes the similar unsettling dreamlike quality, which is a lot harder to do with a non-visual medium.

Specifically, I'm thinking of making it a weird mix of horror, adventure, and possibly some light elements of urban fantasy and I'm also contemplating an isekai story, but not in the usual way it's done.

The story would be told in a first-person view, I think that could probably work better in getting the sense of emptiness and loneliness just right. It'd be a limited view, with the readers finding out alongside the protagonist.

I'm considering a few cliches like an amnesiac protagonist if I include isekai elements.

Literally every day. I'll be listening to music and just a song will give me inspiration for something. Or when I'm watching sometime I really like, I try to manipulate it and make it my own. I also try manipulating genres and see how that works. Mostly in my head, as its hard to tell what would work and what wouldn't.

Dreamlike is tough to pull off. Neil Gaimain is typically the master for what you're describing. American Gods probably would be required reading for you because its got the emptiness and loneliness down pat without being exceedingly bleak. Some of Clive Barker's less extreme stories might help you out in their horrific dream-like qualities. I whole-heatedly recommend books of blood.

Be VERY VERY careful with amnesia. It is very easy to fuck up. I'd recommend instead of amnesia, have your narrator be unreliable. Since you plan a first person story, this would be simple. Can can view it through his lens, restricting information, lying and generally being evasive. It functions better than amnesia, allows readers to want to see who this character exactly is. You can even go for a little mental illness and some minor fourth wall breaking, with psychological horror elements, where the protagonist feels like someone is watching him from inside his head, so he's incredibly paranoid.

I'd only recommend amnesia as a last resort. 9 times out of 10, I go unreliable narrator. It serves the same purpose, I'm not relying on Deus Ex Machina for a cure. OR even better have him feign amnesia or at least have blocks of memory be fuzzy to where he can't pan it out. Just makes sure you have justification, like major head trauma. But leave enough intact for them to be suspicious.

I don't like the amnesia gimmick, its just too much for me. For example, Momento played upon amnesia BRILLIANTLY, where the protagonist knew the truth but manipulated HIMSELF to lie, taking advantage of his unique condition and reinforcement. So look for stories like that. The more unique you can make amnesia, you evolve that cliche into a strong trope.

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It seems it'll be fine as long as it's explicitly clear the character is not Zorro, and like I said upthread, it's just a rough costume one of the two boys takes on for their vigilante stuff (the other being Robin Hood)

The Zorro company is actually owned by the original creator's kids, which is probably why they're so protective of it. But the actual answer to whether or not you can use Zorro if you're not copying anything specific is "Yes, but really no, but really actually yes"

I wouldn't be so bothered, but 1) it's the principle, establishing a rule like that makes it deserve to be broken tbh

God IP is SO FUCKED. You are brave for even trying.
 
There's this "hardness scale" of scifi which classifies it on how "hard" (realistic) it is. It can be overthinking, so I use just 2 levels: "hard" only uses known science, "soft" makes stuff up.

(yeah it's black and white thinking, but whatever)
 
I mean, 'hard' posits there's some sort of causal relationship between everything and makes attempts to link them. Like Star Trek. Soft, shit just works and little effort is made to explain it. Like Star Wars. That's the real difference.

I was going to make a writefag thread and I forgot this one existed. I'm thinking of doing July writing month since I want to get back into it, but I didn't realize how dead this thread was.
 
I mean, 'hard' posits there's some sort of causal relationship between everything and makes attempts to link them. Like Star Trek. Soft, shit just works and little effort is made to explain it. Like Star Wars. That's the real difference.

I was going to make a writefag thread and I forgot this one existed. I'm thinking of doing July writing month since I want to get back into it, but I didn't realize how dead this thread was.

I'm also thinking of taking time to write an actual original novella this month.

Been wanting to do a horror story from a first-person perspective, but the only real issue is that I want to go old-school and make it a zombie story, as cliche and played out as the zombie genre is.

As weird as this sounds, I also kinda had the idea of going a bit meta and presenting it as a tie-in novelization to a movie that doesn't actually exist or something. Like it's a paperback tie-in novel from another universe's timeline or something, as autistic and dumb as that may sound.

Like, if I decide to self-publish the book on Lulu or Amazon, I might commission someone to do the cover art and make it look like a movie poster or VHS box art to some old horror movie from the 70's and 80's.
 
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Yeah. I've got to get myself together. I mean, you can reverse that cliche by making all the survivors good people and the zombies evil. Like, just go away from 'humanz r the real monstarz'.

That might be interesting. Well, you could always go 'House of Leaves' on it, a fictional novel about a fictional movie written by a crazy person. Just don't use footnotes
 
Yeah. I've got to get myself together. I mean, you can reverse that cliche by making all the survivors good people and the zombies evil. Like, just go away from 'humanz r the real monstarz'.

That might be interesting. Well, you could always go 'House of Leaves' on it, a fictional novel about a fictional movie written by a crazy person. Just don't use footnotes

Yep.

As a matter of fact, I intentionally want to subvert a lot of the played out zombie cliches.

If there are human villains, they're more along the lines of common looters and opportunists as opposed to a "humans are the real monsters" cliche, and I also want to avoid other cliches like "Not Using the Z Word"

The idea I had was that the story could be set in the late 90's or very early 2000's, back when the zombie genre was more or less dead outside of video games and a few direct-to-video Japanese movies, before 28 Days Later kicked off the first wave of the zombie fad (and Walking Dead more or less setting off the second wave that eventually killed the genre again)

One of the inspirations for this idea are the old PS1-era Resident Evil games, which explicitly refer to the zombies by name, because it's assumed that Romero-style zombie movies actually exist in the RE universe.

I always thought that was pretty clever on Capcom's part back then.


As for the "fictional movie" angle, I've also contemplated the idea of a "story within a story" where the framing story is a group of friends watching the movie in an old grindhouse theater that was able to narrowly survive into the modern day as a historic curiosity.
 
I only put stuff on here I'm not planning to use anywhere else to avoid powerleveling too much, so here's couple of story concepts I'm probably never going to do anything with.

Everyone does the "What if muh Nazis won WW2" schtick, frequently using very questionable logic for how it happens, but what about an alternate WW2 where instead of just doing a bombing and withdrawing, the Japanese do a full blown invasion of Hawaii while US forces are still reeling? That would completely change the war in the Pacific, since Hawaii was a vital staging point for moving forces across the sea. At the same time, occupying Hawaii would put a lot more strain on already strained Japanese resources. This also might drastically change the US's war plan and thus alter how the war went in Europe, so it could easily be spun off into a whole series. Or it might change little about the war in Europe (if the US sticks to it's Europe first policy despite the more dire position in the Pacific) and end with a universe where the Empire of Japan survives but Nazi Germany doesn't.

Another idea I had is for a historical novel with a star crossed romance between a Catalonian POUM (the communists who were anti-Stalin, which led to them getting purged by the pro-Soviet communist faction) militia man and a member of the nationalist Sección Femenina in the Spanish Civil War. Basically Romeo and Juliet with two noble houses replaced by a political division and a few sword fights with full blown ultraviolent war and brutality.
 
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