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Well done! Very relatable to hate a boss for the shit you have to do for him but respect his leadership. I didnt really understand the main characters response to being asked why he fights, can you elaborate?
In actual history, general Desaix right after this would go to Marengo just as napoleon's army had been shattered. Before napoleon could give up Desaix told him not to despair because “This battle is lost, but there still is time to win another”. He would then reverse the rout and win the battle, but die in the process.

I found this famous quote also helped explain this attitude among those not exactly thrilled by the revolution or what it became but fought for it anyway out of either a larger loyalty to france or to the future. Defeats can be turned to victories and it’s never really completely over. I also find this a useful attitude in the modern world.

Thanks for reading my story!
 
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Sibyl murmured at length before she went off. She clenched her jaw. We didn't understand eachother at all. She was tooth and nail to my bare paw, yet I affirmed her firmly in my arms.

Her fairness and charm I'd only known before in fairytales, yet she was in my arms, so I'm inclined to believe in anything. She hurt me that evening, yet I affirmed her gently with a vow.

Her sea-blue eyes consumed everything, as I was dumb even to the color of the rocks and the tone of her voice. Then she gave me a choice, and I affirmed her again in ignorance.

I know we'd be better off had I listened to her. She drew blood well before I knew it. I thought it was quirky the way she talked to me. Perhaps I affirmed her often and rarely should have.

So again I’m trying to write a fantasy novel. First time doing this sort of thing. Only in the early concept days, What is best to focus on : the characters or build up the world first,
Just start writing, and worry about organizing things later. Don’t force it. Let it come to you on its own, just write.
 
So again I’m trying to write a fantasy novel. First time doing this sort of thing. Only in the early concept days, What is best to focus on : the characters or build up the world first,
I have often found that extensive worldbuilding kills enterprising fantasy more than it helps. It's the siren call of adding one more cool concept or historical factoid that keeps you from actually getting in there and writing something real and more tangible.

So unless your story and characters require an intensely intricate world, I would simply begin with characters and plot.
 
So again I’m trying to write a fantasy novel. First time doing this sort of thing. Only in the early concept days, What is best to focus on : the characters or build up the world first,
IMO, in a traditional story, the world should serve the plot. You probably want to come up with a theme, characters, and basic plot outline before you start to think about details of the worldbuilding.

The two exceptions I can think of are if you're writing a Silmarillion-type book where the worldbuilding IS the story, or if the world is absolutely central to the theme of the book (for example, if the point of the book is an exploration of ideology, you probably want to map out the factions you're exploring before anything else).
 
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I've been trying to rewrite this project that's sitting around 200k words and is maybe a third of the way done. I'm not sure if I should split it in two parts despite it all taking place in the span of several months consecutively, nor how to make that a seamless transition if I go that route. It's just a lot to work with at the moment and it'd be more manageable in sections but I don't want it feeling disjointed.

I also hate about half of it and want to change it again because I feel what's going on is too obvious to anyone who is not the socially stunted protagonist but it's narrated through her so I feel that's a necessary evil.
 
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Anons from 4 chan were pulling up and down for this to somehow work out and decided to settle down for scrapping page one alltogther(og version) for being completely unreadable and shitty compostion wise
With help of miles better artist than me i used his skecth for inspiration and turned page one into 3 smaller ones full of action and redid page 2
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I had to massively chop down text into 3 pages worth of dynamic action to make it work using some of anons outlines from page one remaster as referenceUntitled236_20241123232045.jpgUntitled236_20241123232051.jpgUntitled236_20241123232055.jpg
 
The approaching simpleton is on their way, merrily skipping to a song in their brain being made up with each passing step. A being born middle-aged having never really experienced life. Still a virgin and approached by females as a Friend Advice Guy to them. “Dooh Dah Dooh!” They sing along before happening upon the town dike which had just sprung a hole. “Goodness!” The naivete utters to no one but themselves before quickly and selflessly inserting their right index finger to quickly plug the hole. They let out a proud sigh having stopped the leak from spreading but are unable to get help. Just then, another hole appears and then another and another ending with one at waist-height. The altruist does their duty, using their fingers to fill the holes until arriving at the last one beneath him in such an awkward place that would be impossible to fill with their remaining fingers. They unbuckle their pants and insert the tiny uncircumsized cock into the final remaining hole. The vacuum quickly takes them and the feeling is not unlike a long posthumous necrophiliac act in fucking the cold damp hole.

Our hero looks around for help but can find none and hopes that no more holes appear. Around the corner a police officer appears, “Please monsieur!” He pleads to the officer who takes one look at him and laughs before moving on. Later, a passing group of children -consisting mostly of girls- come across the martyr and laugh. Their desperate cries are ignored as their fingers and cock quickly become very numb. Soon there is night and our savior curses his bad luck but keeps at it for as long as it takes. From the corner of his vision, he sees a cloaked figure approach him from behind. The figure opens their coat and holds them by the back of the neck “Heard about you. Our new idol. Holy be thy who offers himself.” A click & clack of unbuttoning happens and our town’s protector finally loses their virginity albeit unwillingly. It was a painful process that went on for over an hour, ending with a drip of blood to fall between their legs as their pleas to free him and save the town were muted. Soon they become the town receptacle for passing strangers, children taunted him by shoving rocks and branches into their orifices. They eventually expired, their body cemented over the leaks and entombed.

The mayor holds a dedication in remembrance with a poorly made statue before the crowd; it didn’t resemble the human offering in the slightest, resembling a statue of Mae Zedong raping Mohammed. The statue was later vandalized by its creator so they could scam the town and be paid again to remake it.

Is this funny?
 
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I also hate about half of it and want to change it again because I feel what's going on is too obvious to anyone who is not the socially stunted protagonist but it's narrated through her so I feel that's a necessary evil.
I've noticed that there's a somewhat common desire among writers to be more subtle about things in some vain pursuit of not wanting to appear gauche or amateurish, but I would go against the grain on this vain impulse we all have and say this desire is ultimately masturbatory and deleterious to one's artistic development. If you hate or are disgusted by parts of your own work but feel like they fit in with the rest of a given project, you should consciously choose to keep them in the forms that you think are too blunt and/or make you cringe because trying to smooth everything out will lead to bland, inoffensive slop whereas allowing yourself to fail or be subject to ridicule in front of an audience for something not going over the way you'd want it to is important to experience and get over.
 
If you hate or are disgusted by parts of your own work but feel like they fit in with the rest of a given project, you should consciously choose to keep them in the forms that you think are too blunt and/or make you cringe because trying to smooth everything out will lead to bland, inoffensive slop whereas allowing yourself to fail or be subject to ridicule in front of an audience for something not going over the way you'd want it to is important to experience and get over.

i would really appreciate it if you stopped reading me for filth
 
i would really appreciate it if you stopped reading me for filth
Jokes aside, I actually don't think I've read any of the things you've posted in this thread despite seeing them in passing. The emphasis on AI narrators and cover images or whatever just isn't my cup of hemlock.
 
i would really appreciate it if you stopped reading me for filth
Sir/ma'am/they/them/who/we If you read between the lines here, he's saying that you don't have enough gay nigger rape in your writing. You should read more Ginsberg, Kourac, and Samuel Delaney for that kind of inspiration.
 
Sir/ma'am/they/them/who/we If you read between the lines here, he's saying that you don't have enough gay nigger rape in your writing. You should read more Ginsberg, Kourac, and Samuel Delaney for that kind of inspiration.
You forgot Hitler, Mao, Gaddafi, Elliot Rodger, and of course, JULAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Ebola.
 
I've noticed that there's a somewhat common desire among writers to be more subtle about things in some vain pursuit of not wanting to appear gauche or amateurish, but I would go against the grain on this vain impulse we all have and say this desire is ultimately masturbatory and deleterious to one's artistic development. If you hate or are disgusted by parts of your own work but feel like they fit in with the rest of a given project, you should consciously choose to keep them in the forms that you think are too blunt and/or make you cringe because trying to smooth everything out will lead to bland, inoffensive slop whereas allowing yourself to fail or be subject to ridicule in front of an audience for something not going over the way you'd want it to is important to experience and get over.
It may be autistic but I like to keep it as realistic as possible, down to using the weather on that day in that area during specific times. The protagonist being socially stunted and unaware of modern culture is largely what drives the story and makes the most sense but also makes her seem dumb. You're right though, that is the point. She's definitely not an adorkable YA Mary Sue and it's this unawareness and lack of socializing that makes it not only in character for her to get increasingly frustrated but eventually snap. It's supposed to be obvious to everyone but her and the obliviousness to the situation is the only reason the first four chapters take place. She is meant to be cringe and dumb in that regard, even if that makes finding out less exciting because it was obvious from the beginning.
 
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Maybe if drawn in a mr nubbly comic style? It has an acme-esc vibe and detachment between the reader and characters. It does not work well in text. If you're attempting to lean into a grotesque dark humor writing style maybe give the story structure of Greek tragedies a try?
He was going for a condensed Georges Bataille or Comte de Lautréamont French style atrocity shitpost sorta thing. Asking if it's funny for effect at the end is more of a provocation or a deliberate slap in the face to a normal reader with normal sensibilities than a genuine question.

Imagine going to a really fancy restaurant. The waiter puts an empty plate in front of you. After 5 hours of silence the chef comes out, stands on top of your table, drops his pants, squats over your plate, takes a gigantic dump, then gets off the table and puts his pants back on. He stares at you for an uncomfortably long time then asks "Is this not to your liking, monsieur?"
 
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He was going for a condensed Georges Bataille or Comte de Lautréamont French style atrocity shitpost sorta thing. Asking if it's funny for effect at the end is more of a provocation or a deliberate slap in the face to a normal reader with normal sensibilities than a genuine question.

Imagine going to a really fancy restaurant. The waiter puts an empty plate in front of you. After 5 hours of silence the chef comes out, stands on top of your table, drops his pants, squats over your plate, takes a gigantic dump, then gets off the table and puts his pants back on. He stares at you for an uncomfortably long time then asks "Is this not to your liking, monsieur?"
French edge lord duchamp's fountain . Gotcha. I'm 100% not the audience for that but I can see why it would appeal to it's niche.
 
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French edge lord duchamp's fountain . Gotcha. I'm 100% not the audience for that but I can see why it would appeal to it's niche.
I'd say its roots go back way further than that and its arguably a universal primitive phenomenon. Personally, I aspire towards a kind of one-man "movement" (which you could call one of the bowels without offending me) I've toyed with calling "Anti-Reader" or even "Anti-Audience" fiction which is exactly what it says on the tin, nothing more, nothing less.

Though I must assure you that I'm in no way French. Please understand.
 
Pardon more self promotion but I'm in a very good mood and I love how this turned out:


It Came From the Hoarding Nest!

“Okay, Youtube.” A doddering, bald, greasy & grotesque male specimen speaks to the camera closely and threateningly. His voice slurs from duster huffing and alcoholism. It is a creature of twisted yet conflicting origin: bespeckled and bald but still fairly young, able to decipher the sweeping miracle of technology but still confused by basic hygiene and instruction, destructive but still functional, all things describing the despised wretch and their parasitic compatriots.

“Joshhhhyyyy.” Evilly whispered by the human embodiment of a decaying Wendigo. Known as ‘my one true love’ by the fellow duster enthusiast and much more directly as “the crack whore witch” by their anti-fans; Josh slowly lurches in the direction of his lover and enabler Jessica. Theirs is an affair drawn from gas station romance novels found in the corner of the disused and sketchy establishment. They have slowly become the leading power couple of white trash cringe shows of the internet.

A hideous “SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH” sound tears through the awkward silence as the pair woof down their Duster appetizer. The chat watching along with the pathetic spectacle make reference to David Lynch’s Blue Velvet by typing in all caps “MOMMY, BABY WANTS TO FUCK!” As Josh whispers to his partner in crime to keep quiet for the time being as he perfects what in his mind is the ultimate alcoholic beverage. The making of the Mead is a practice that dates back a while ago and is the ideal attention-grabber and click bait generator. The Mead is the name this backwoods mad chef lends to his home-made alcohol drawn from bizarre concoctions. Josh’s unclean hands with black nail polish chipping away clutches at the ingredients of his latest abomination:

Ingredients: diluted anti-freeze, Dollar Store red wine, off-brand Cheetos, Red Bull, over $75 worth of sauces from Little Caesars, and the remnants of a broken classic Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Laboratory with actual Uranium left over by Josh’s grandpa.

Josh slurs “Grandpa’s apple sauce” instead of “Grandpa’s cough medicine” as confirmed by the chat. Jessica asks the bespeckled magician where he found the Atomic Energy Laboratory where Josh explains how it was in a storage unit he helped move (I.E. steal from) that his father asked for assistance with and he was fascinated by the glowing dust emanating from it. “Bombs away!” He slurs in mongoloid ecstasy, amazed at the sparks emitting from his strange brew as it takes on shapes and colors he cannot pronounce, shifting and turning in rapid succession unlike previously defiled concoctions. Josh and Jessica soon retreat, with Jessica huffing away duster off camera, Josh succumbs to alcohol-induced slumber as the stream mercifully shuts off, and The Mead waits in its jar with menacing fury…

Through the phlegm and remnants of lanced boils, from cockroach larvae and wolf’s milk, stirred from piss and expired food, and willed by the alchemy of dark intent with radiation. I awaken. My home quakes with my self-awareness of being the bizarre alcoholic concoction made sentient. The dirty glass I look out from teases my appetite as the two makers of my genesis lie blissfully unaware of a superior being that is so very hungry like the newborn needing its milk.

I shift my protoplasmic mass to and fro, moving the jar little by little to tip over until my escape is made and the glass breaks.

Freedom. Hunger. Evolution. These are my primary motivations hanging above my consciousness as etchings in the sky commanding me to go and destroy. This is the only motivation I need in my will to power and it is so very thirsty. I creep over from the disgusting floor of the trailer, soaking in the dirt and grime long ignored and accepted by the occupants. There in the corner, not very far from my creator, I see the decaying Wendigo glowing in skeletal ecstasy like a reverse Sleeping Beauty.

In my stealthy approach, Jessica pays no attention having long gone comatose due to her vices, and my liquid being makes first contact to their dirty feet where it takes several seconds for there to be a response. Soon, as I strip and suckle the calloused feet there is a muffled and slurred screaming from a creature less human than me. She screams and strikes me but both of her gnarled fists sink inside my all-annihilating body rendering her suffering into insect agony. She calls forth her disabled lover but her slurred words can only communicate so much in her suffering as unwashed flesh is stripped down to the yellow fat and soon the red meat and brittle bone, her blood slurped away in my necessary thirst but I as I reach toward her pubis and belly, I discard the days-old tampon and spit it out as even I have more dignity. The screaming mutates as I consume more and more, pulling at the flesh like an evil hickey, as the meat agonizingly succumbs to this necessary destruction, slurring “Ohmuhgawwwddddd” in white trash final prayer and desperation. With each bite and nibble I feel my being grow and become stronger, breaking apart the legs backwards and sidewards as the gutcunt is removed in brutal liposuction. The meat begins vomiting in horror and can no longer speak, I keep reaching towards and am horrified by the drooping breasts lined with stretch marks and tear them away in a whiplash, leaving empty craters for what was once -perhaps- intended to be the motherly features but gone to waste and neglected. The meat stops moving as my form evolves to a point where I can semi-stand, and in my first real walk I lift it up and break it backwards with the shattering of a spinal cord and pushing out all of the pitiful waste in a torrent of blood & bile. The noise finally awakens my creator.

“Wuuuutttttt?” Is one of the last words of KingCobraJFS who I mock by opening my chewing mouth and show him his bride and my supper, forcing him to witness his mate dissected and dissolving into an annihilating ether. He prays on his knees to false gods and calls for Ozzy for assistance as I make my way towards him, glad to be the last thing that he sees as I confront a malding horror. Before more cursing and before his pocket knives could be reached, I have evolved tendrils that spring out and pin him in his place as I make his finale quick and painless in thanks to having him be the genesis of my rightful creation. With jaws ever-growing I lick my lips with several tongues and finally bite down on the greasy and balding skull. With a great big bite, removing brain and thought, blood crushes through the eyes and ears, an 85 IQ squeezes out in bright and pink colors, and I indulge in that slurry of what was once human.

As I finish my justified annihilation, I look towards the windows and announce to myself: “First the trailer park. And then, the world!”
 
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