TheyCallMeTevin is a garbage troll

[TheGoutburglar]

This is definitely a troll, and not a very good one either. A legit supporter of Phil, like MoraMoria, who would be the most likely candidate to show up here and try "debunking" the truth, would not be able to tolerate the likes of us long enough to engage in even this much conversation.

He admitted to reading the entire thread, lol. Guess that was him channeling his positive energy.

Like with many other things, I don't think Phil realizes what he says about himself when he makes such admissions. Though, honestly, with such an audience, why should he care anyway? Those dumb-dumbs are not ever going to notice that the act of reading such a long thread would require way more free time than Phil ever admits to having.

Also, I like that Phil's life is so devoid of real victories that he has to cling to a situation where someone was trying to blackmail him, and one where he could have avoided it if he had actually been smart.

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

If you are neither pro or anti DSP, why register a username that is one of DSP's biggest detractors?

1. If you don't trust the computer text analysis, do one of your own. Look at the way TheyCallMeDSP types, the abbreviations he uses, the random caps, the slang, the typos, etc. Compare those to things Phil Burnell has written. Phil has a vast internet footprint, not just YouTube videos. He has many written posts on various forums and websites going back 20 years.

Phil refuses to do anything to prove he is not TheyCallMeDSP and vice versa. Phil can't show his screen name on a mobile game that he no longer plays because it has sensitive information, yet he can show his DMCA stuff and show us a pizza on his phone.

Phil is a liar. Just like he said he no longer watches or cares about wrestling, yet will ban anyone posting wrestling spoilers because he hasn't watched it yet. Either you don't watch wrestling and don't care or you do watch wrestling and you do care. He doesn't play WWE Champions, but he also prayed that people would forget all about it after his bankruptcy? Sounds like he does care. Why would someone care about a game they don't play?

2. Phil said the $5000 a month listed as business expenses went to maintenance, buying games and consoles, and microtransactions. First, Phil does no maintenance on his equipment. He hasn't bought a new console in years. If he gets four $60 games a month that would be $240. Phil hasn't purchased any microtransactions such as cosmetic skins or season passes or anything like that in a long time. It just doesn't add up unless he is spending money on a video game "behind the scenes" such as WWE Champions.

3. Phil makes $10,000 a month. $5,000 is household expenses. $5,000 was business expenses. His paperwork showed he had a net monthly loss of $30

4. Fine. We shall all refer to you as an "exceptional individual" since the word filter for retarded was removed.

This isn't a court of law. There is plenty of evidence that Phil is TheyCallMeDSP. There is no burden of proof. If Phil isn't TheyCallMeDSP or if TheyCallMeDSP isn't Phil, one of them could have debunked the myth.

Because I do not choose usernames in a public forum based on my beliefs? I could have literally chose my username as "TevinIsTheGreatest" and it would make no difference to me. And if I was a supporter or detractor, what difference should it make? Your argument against DSP should be independent of my beliefs.

I did not say I did not trust. All I said was that I did not see proof of that tool anywhere. I looked up that tool because I wanted to understand how it works. I found it interesting. Yet I could not find a single mention anywhere. Why would I spend time on something nonsensical and unproductive as analyzing the text of someone I care nothing about? It should take 10 seconds to provide a link to the tool, if it exists. It has to exist for it to be used as proof right?

When did he show DMCA stuff? I have been on stream every single time he has gotten a DMCA strike and did not once see him show a document of the actual DMCA. I have heard him at most mention that the DMCA email said it was from THQ Nordic and the guy said he was an employee.

I do not know anything about wrestling spoilers. If that is true that is weird. I have heard him say that he does not watch wrestling because he gets updates on twitter anyway. That would indicate he does "care" about it but probably to a lesser degree than in the past. Of course he would want people to forget about it, because you all have a 5000+ page thread dedicated to it.

as for points 2/3 that is interesting. If he mentioned personal microtransactions I admit yeah that is pretty weird.

4) Insulting my intelligence does not bolster your intelligence or your argument at all. Instead of mudslinging, how about provide proof, or address the hypocrisy? Calling me and others mentally challenged while at the same time blaming DSP for calling you guys mentally ill. How do you justify that?

 

[Forbidden Math]

I did not say I did not trust. All I said was that I did not see proof of that tool anywhere. I looked up that tool because I wanted to understand how it works. I found it interesting. Yet I could not find a single mention anywhere. Why would I spend time on something nonsensical and unproductive as analyzing the text of someone I care nothing about? It should take 10 seconds to provide a link to the tool, if it exists. It has to exist for it to be used as proof right?

You do know you're not talking to the user who posted the program right? We're not all one person.

I do not know anything about wrestling spoilers. If that is true that is weird. I have heard him say that he does not watch wrestling because he gets updates on twitter anyway. That would indicate he does "care" about it but probably to a lesser degree than in the past. Of course he would want people to forget about it, because you all have a 5000+ page thread dedicated to it.

No, we have a 5000+ page thread discussing DSP in general started 7 years ago. We have a 252 page thread dedicated to DSP's WWE Champions addiction, which by the way has all the important bits highlighted in the first post so if you want to see those discord leaks that would be the place to check.

All of that said I'm willing to assume you're neither Phil, or a fan of Phil's (well, maybe but perhaps one with fair questions and an open mind), or a troll. I will take your arguments in good faith and frankly some times it's good to ask questions that have already been covered to keep the information fresh. I mean it's not that unlikely that Phil talking about Kiwi Farms has made people curious.

 

[Fapcop]

Well, think about it like a court case.

It’s not a court case you twat.

Phil has shown hisnphone multiple times. The last time during the DMCA thing.

Yet he refuses to show the phone for a few seconds just to prove that it’s not his account.

Now why do you think that is?

He could easily block out part of his username if it really isn’t him, so “they’ll mess with my account” isn’t an excuse.

In reality there is of course only one reason why he wouldn’t want to show it, and that’s because it really IS his account.

What Phil wants you to believe is that:

*: An account with his usual name, that nobody else uses.

*:An account that has been linked with his discord

*:An account that is never online during the times he streams.

Isn’t him.

In a civil court the preponderance of evidence is enough for a verdict, and the cumulative preponderance of evidence points to THEYCALLMEDSP being Phil. (Surprise surprise!)

As to why the WWE guy did not disprove it, again why is the burden of proof on him? If anything, he probably wants to be kept anonymous. I would not want to show my picture online in a mobile game.

The guy got chased out of multiple factions which is big problem in WWE Champions. All he had to do to avoid that is to go out with an anonymous voice call or whatever and explain that he isn’t DSP.

Anyone who isn’t DSP would have done that to get people off his back.

But he didn’t. Yet another piece of evidence that points to it being DSP’s account.

Anyone who isn’t literally retarded can easily see that shit doesn’t add up here.

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

I think you're on the wrong site if you're going to cry about someone being called mentally retarded, more so when the person you're defending was shown calling people "mentally ill" on the previous page. Just because you haven't lurked long enough to see the multiple doxes doesn't mean they aren't a thing, maybe you should take some of our arguments in good faith instead of just assuming we don't know what we're talking about.


You did. You said: "I did not listen to the whole bankruptcy call. What exactly was said and what was the context of this?" This is asking for spoonfeeding. Also if you think that's rude you are in the wrong place.


Sorry, I'm not a computer, nor am I your personal DSP reference desk. If me and other posters on this site remembering something isn't enough evidence and you can't be bothered to find it yourself then go ahead and believe a pathological liar. Maybe you should start donating money to him.


5k in monthly expenses is understandable? What for the Kardasians? Edit: Though I will say maybe living in Seattle is that expensive, but still, that number seems high for just two people and a cat.


So we need absolute proof on the software but DSP doesn't need absolute proof (which he can provide in the form of showing his WWE Champions account, or that DownFromTheRafters could have proved any number of ways through discord) that it's not his WWE Champions account?

I have a question for you now: Do you seriously think a troll spent 40k to make a WWE Champions account with DSP's main screen name? Why is that more believable than someone who's stated himself that he enjoys mobile games spent that much on one account over years?

I am not crying lol. Why do you jump to "oh you must be so upset XPPP" when I am asking for proof of claims that you have used to justify a 5000+ page thread to hating someone? Do you think a rational person would like at my 2 posts and your thousands of posts dedicated to 1 person you have probably never met and think I am the upset one? LOL. I am literally a random guy who watched a few of DSP streams and have been browsing Kiwi Farms before I go to sleep. Calm down.

You are not a computer. I agree. You are also not someone that can take criticism well. It seems like you are comfortable asking the accused to provide burden of proof, but when you are asked to do the same, you insult the other person. Has anyone told you that if you resort to mudslinging to win an argument you have already lost? My claim was simply that if you are using that software to justify that they are the same person, then link the fucking software.

5k a month is a lot, I agree. For one person I find that surprising. But I believe the arbitrator mentioned a lot of expenses were allowed to be counted toward that, including one-time purcchases and not just reoccuring expenses. I am not sure though.

Again you cry about "WHY DO I HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF WHEN DSP DOES NOT?!?!?!" Ok, why does DSP have to provide proof when you will not? But I will stop using this argument since clearly it is just a game of tennis to talk about it with you.

 

[Full Race Replay]

lot of trolls or Phil fans white-knighting for him recently. Is Phil's stream so boring you're looking for something to do?

 

[Forbidden Math]

I am not crying lol. Why do you jump to "oh you must be so upset XPPP" when I am asking for proof of claims that you have used to justify a 5000+ page thread to hating someone? Do you think a rational person would like at my 2 posts and your thousands of posts dedicated to 1 person you have probably never met and think I am the upset one? LOL. I am literally a random guy who watched a few of DSP streams and have been browsing Kiwi Farms before I go to sleep. Calm down.

Yeah, I'm the one who needs to calm down. Got me. By the way I didn't post all 5k posts, in fact I doubt I have even a thousand posts on this forum. Again: we're not all one person.

Edit: Fuck me, I do have 1200 posts. Oh well, guess I'm just mentally ill.

Again you cry about "WHY DO I HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF WHEN DSP DOES NOT?!?!?!" Ok, why does DSP have to provide proof when you will not? But I will stop using this argument since clearly it is just a game of tennis to talk about it with you.

Again, you got me! I'm just a troll who's having fun making you say stupid shit.

One question though: Why do you feel it's more reasonable for a troll to have spent 40+k on a WWE Champions account to frame Phil than it is for Phil, a man who makes a lot of money that suddenly vanishes in to thin air, to have spent it on the account of a game he has admitted to playing? Don't get me wrong, Phil has trolls who have gone a long way to make him look bad and do alog bs, but 40+k? And then the troll doesn't keep dropping info and changes his screen name multiple times?

 

[TheGoutburglar]

I take it back, they're at least halfway decent at being a troll.

Still spotted them a mile them away, though. Name was very poorly chosen.

 

[Fapcop]

I am not crying lol. Why do you jump to "oh you must be so upset XPPP" when I am asking for proof of claims that you have used to justify a 5000+ page thread to hating someone?

I dunno why you’re so hung up on Phil wasting 40K in a Gacha game.

And as for proof of DSP being a piece of shit, you don’t really need to trawl 5000 pages for “evidence”, just watch some of his streams.

 

[Shambler]

Because I do not choose usernames in a public forum based on my beliefs? I could have literally chose my username as "TevinIsTheGreatest" and it would make no difference to me. And if I was a supporter or detractor, what difference should it make? Your argument against DSP should be independent of my beliefs.

my name is only "ihateniggers" how dare you rightly assume i hate blackies you fucking gypsies spick

 

[Fapcop]

I take it back, they're at least halfway decent at being a troll.

Still spotted them a mile them away, though. Name was very poorly chosen.

“Hurr-durr... So there are all these indications of DSP being THEYCALLMEDSP and things that point to it. But you don’t have PROOF! There’s still a 1% chance it’s just a string of remarkable coincidences. CHECKMATE HATERS hurr-durr!”

 

[Muppetmode]

you cry about "WHY DO I HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF WHEN DSP DOES NOT?!?!?!" Ok, why does DSP have to provide proof when you will not? But I will stop using this argument since clearly it is just a game of tennis to talk about it with you.

think the most damning piece of evidence is the discord leaks, since u can’t change the few numbers after your name (need discord nitro I guess) and his name/numbers matched in both before he tried to change it.
Quick edit: you would think a reasonable person, when asked if you’re someone you aren’t, would just say they aren’t that person instead of just trying to defer. And upon further harassment would just post some proof that they aren’t said person

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

It’s not a court case you twat.

Phil has shown hisnphone multiple times. The last time during the DMCA thing.

Yet he refuses to show the phone for a few seconds just to prove that it’s not his account.

Now why do you think that is?

Isn’t him.

In a civil court the preponderance of evidence is enough for a verdict, and the cumulative preponderance of evidence points to THEYCALLMEDSP being Phil. (Surprise surprise!)
...

Anyone who isn’t literally retarded can easily see that shit doesn’t add up here.

"Under the preponderance standard, the burden of proof is met when the party with the burden convinces the fact finder that there is a greater than 50% chance that the claim is true. This is the burden of proof in a civil trial. " https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/preponderance_of_the_evidence

"the greater weight of the evidence required in a civil (non-criminal) lawsuit for the trier of fact (jury or judge without a jury) to decide in favor of one side or the other. This preponderance is based on the more convincing evidence and its probable truth or accuracy, and not on the amount of evidence.... Thus, one clearly knowledgeable witness may provide a preponderance of evidence over a dozen witnesses with hazy testimony, or a signed agreement " https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1586

" In civil cases, the plaintiff has the burden of proving his case by a preponderance of the evidence. " https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/burden_of_proof

The burden is on you to provide proof, when you are accusing DSP. According to the definition, burden of proof is met if there is greater than 50% chance. Can you tell me how your proof leads to greater than 50% chance?

Oh wait, you cannot. Because your argument is, "Well DSP has not said he IS NOT the guy." "Well DSP has not SHOWN his phone, proving he is not the guy". Why does he not show his username? The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate with greater than 50% weight upon the preponderance of evidence that DSP and the WWE guy are one and the same.

But by all means keep calling me retarded. It's really helping your claim

 

[Forbidden Math]

In before all of this is moved to designated whiner shitting street.

 

[Kosher Dill]

that "statistical linguistic analysis" software doesn't exist. Can someone link me to it? I cannot find a single line of code on Github that shows this software or the output of this software.

I had a DM conversation with the guy who posted the text analysis back in January. (you know, "behind the scenes" as we say in DSP Land) The program is his own invention apparently, so it's not out there in any public repository. He seemed like a good guy and very interested in talking shop about this a bit, but I just never heard back from him after a while. I didn't get to learn too much about how the analysis works.
One interesting tidbit is that he was apparently doing his own speech-to-text via some cloud service rather than using the auto-captions like PigPigGo.

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

lot of trolls or Phil fans white-knighting for him recently. Is Phil's stream so boring you're looking for something to do?

And you are spending your time more productively?

 

[TheGoutburglar]

“Hurr-durr... So there are all these indications of DSP being THEYCALLMEDSP and things that point to it. But you don’t have PROOF! There’s still a 1% chance it’s just a string of remarkable coincidences. CHECKMATE HATERS hurr-durr!”

Sounds like the Gout Lord himself.

Come to think of it, so does his username. And he loves semantics. And it's Phil's day off...

I had a DM conversation with the guy who posted the text analysis back in January. (you know, "behind the scenes" as we say in DSP Land) The program is his own invention apparently, so it's not out there in any public repository. He seemed like a good guy and very interested in talking shop about this a bit, but I just never heard back from him after a while. I didn't get to learn too much about how the analysis works.
One interesting tidbit is that he was apparently doing his own speech-to-text via some cloud service rather than using the auto-captions like PigPigGo.

The text analyis pogram doesn't even matter that much when a number of actual human beings can easily observe with their own eyes the way in which Phil and NotDSP resemble each other to a suspicious degree.

 

[TheyCallMeTevin]

I had a DM conversation with the guy who posted the text analysis back in January. (you know, "behind the scenes" as we say in DSP Land) The program is his own invention apparently, so it's not out there in any public repository. He seemed like a good guy and very interested in talking shop about this a bit, but I just never heard back from him after a while. I didn't get to learn too much about how the analysis works.
One interesting tidbit is that he was apparently doing his own speech-to-text via some cloud service rather than using the auto-captions like PigPigGo.

Ok cool. Did he mention how he got to his claim of greater than 85% accuracy and never been wrong, etc? I would like to learn more about his tool. Does he have it on Github? Does he know that the claim he made made it sound like this tool had peer reviewed objective analysis on it? At least now we can see that there is POTENTIALLY a chance that the tool is incorrect, since it is written by one person and possibly reviewed by no one.

 

[Muppetmode]

Oh wait, you cannot. Because your argument is, "Well DSP has not said he IS NOT the guy." "Well DSP has not SHOWN his phone, proving he is not the guy". Why does he not show his username? The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate with greater than 50% weight upon the preponderance of evidence that DSP and the WWE guy are one and the same.

But by all means keep calling me retarded. It's really helping your claim

See post about discord leaks. Besides him showing some pretty guilty body language, not sure how much more proof is needed. We all know dsp is an asshole, but you would think if his trolls were harassing someone who doesn’t have anything to do with him and could disprove it by showing his discord/any proof. He just cries fake news all day

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

"Under the preponderance standard, the burden of proof is met when the party with the burden convinces the fact finder that there is a greater than 50% chance that the claim is true. This is the burden of proof in a civil trial. " https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/preponderance_of_the_evidence

"the greater weight of the evidence required in a civil (non-criminal) lawsuit for the trier of fact (jury or judge without a jury) to decide in favor of one side or the other. This preponderance is based on the more convincing evidence and its probable truth or accuracy, and not on the amount of evidence.... Thus, one clearly knowledgeable witness may provide a preponderance of evidence over a dozen witnesses with hazy testimony, or a signed agreement " https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1586

" In civil cases, the plaintiff has the burden of proving his case by a preponderance of the evidence. " https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/burden_of_proof

The burden is on you to provide proof, when you are accusing DSP. According to the definition, burden of proof is met if there is greater than 50% chance. Can you tell me how your proof leads to greater than 50% chance?

Oh wait, you cannot. Because your argument is, "Well DSP has not said he IS NOT the guy." "Well DSP has not SHOWN his phone, proving he is not the guy". Why does he not show his username? The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate with greater than 50% weight upon the preponderance of evidence that DSP and the WWE guy are one and the same.

But by all means keep calling me retarded. It's really helping your claim

This is an internet gossip forum, not a court you exceptional individual.