Things you used to believe/support but don't anymore

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This can also apply in reverse. Something you used to not stand by but over time have turned over your position on. It can be socio-political, religious, philosophical or even just opinions on a product you used to like/hate.

For me: Online Friends are Real Friends
I used to believe this for a long time but can't stick by it anymore. I rarely think "real friends" are real friends, so someone I don't even know the name of or who I've never seen shouldn't be any different.
I wish I could believe it, but I've seen how quick long-time "friends" of that sort have turned on eachother. I also think it can be very toxic and cause stagnation in your personal life as you'll eventually be too comfortable with them to try to go out and make friends in the real world.
I think the thing people should learn and accept is that it is okay to not have many friends as long as you treat the very few decent people in your life that come along with respect. Learning to live with yourself can be difficult, but ultimately much more rewarding than convincing yourself anyone on Discord/Facebook/Twitter is your "bro".

There's a lot of other cases but that's one that immediately comes to my mind.
 
I used to believe that the United States of America Federal Government is the proper form of governance for the middle part of the North American landmass. I am now convinced now that the only proper course for the USA is to break into a few coastal based countries. Clearly the policy needed to govern the every expanding and changing morals, attitudes, industry, politics, beliefs, etc of the North, West, South and Middle US are lacking in the current uniform approach. The current Federal Government is kept alive more as a mine of money and power to the elite than a provision of essential services to the people.
 
Women's suffrage.

And just "equality" in general ("egalitarianism" is just a label I use, I just typically don't give a shit). In high school, we were put into groups and drew whatever American history subject was in the hat, and my group got the history of feminism. The catch to the group project was we were to put on a small presentation for it, and so we just made/printed images of women to paste on popsicle sticks and put on a scenario where the gossiping hens are complaining about men and deciding enough's enough. However, I went "off-script" and had "my girl" decide she didn't exactly agree with their sentiments and went home to make dinner for her husband while the rest of them continued to plot.

The irony of it all was that in spite of "lack" of women's rights, a woman still could make her own choices. Doubt anyone in the class caught on to it (my teacher chuckled at it, though).
 
Women's suffrage.

And just "equality" in general ("egalitarianism" is just a label I use, I just typically don't give a shit). In high school, we were put into groups and drew whatever American history subject was in the hat, and my group got the history of feminism. The catch to the group project was we were to put on a small presentation for it, and so we just made/printed images of women to paste on popsicle sticks and put on a scenario where the gossiping hens are complaining about men and deciding enough's enough. However, I went "off-script" and had "my girl" decide she didn't exactly agree with their sentiments and went home to make dinner for her husband while the rest of them continued to plot.

The irony of it all was that in spite of "lack" of women's rights, a woman still could make her own choices. Doubt anyone in the class caught on to it (my teacher chuckled at it, though).
Aren't you one of those damned women-things?
I agree though, that is a pretty funny play. It reminds me of a character in a show I want to make who constantly pisses off the feminist because she actively decides she wants to work at a Hooters-style restaraunt.
 
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Pretty much what you said but in relation to "real friends". When I was in high school and in college, I had a tight knit circle of friends that I could at least talk to and hang out with once in a while. Eventually we drifted apart naturally and amicably and (slight PL) I have been trying to relive that friendship with other people. It made me realize how self-serving and annoying most people are in real life and how the very few people are genuinely good natured. I just stop talking to people outside of my family, with exceptions to a couple people I really find I like talking to on a regular basis at church and at work. They are genuinely nice people and I enjoy my conversations with them, even if they are on a weekly basis and rather short. They are something to look forward to unlike most conversations, which are a chore. I've just learned to live for God, my family and myself. With very few exceptions, everyone one else and fuck off unless they are paying me to care. Really, it's not the quantity of relationships you have but the quality of them that matters, yet most people are willing to sacrifice the latter for the former.

With Internet friends, I always realized that was a bit ephemeral though since you are seeing an avatar rather than an actual person. But it's still nice knowing there are people that see the same problems you do with society, think similarly and can have an actual intellectual discussion with, something that's becoming extremely rarer in today's social media infested world.
 
When I was 12 or so I thought communism was a pretty good idea, I mean it eliminates poverty, makes all people equal, and giving everyone just what they need is a great thing. I believed that "social justice" in its literal sense is a noble goal worth pursuing.

Then I became old enough for my parents and other people to tell me what communism was really like without any sugar on top, which taught me a great deal not just about communism itself but also about human nature and the struggles of European nations against the ever deceitful Russian untermensch. I don't get into political sperging anymore really, but everytime I see an ameriburger leftoid promoting socialism and communism despite never having come within a thousand miles of either in their cushy sheltered bougie lives, I hurt a little inside.

I also used to be very resentful about being fat and thought it was unfair to be mocked for it. It literally took me until 16 years of age to learn on the internet that losing weight is possible, no one else would tell me that including my family and teachers. I genuinely believed that being fat was down to genetics and you couldn't do much about it. So I tried working out and eating less chocolate and junk food and whaddya know, it fucking worked. I dropped those beliefs like the hot garbage they are and just became fit instead.
 
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Pretty much what you said but in relation to "real friends". When I was in high school and in college, I had a tight knit circle of friends that I could at least talk to and hang out with once in a while. Eventually we drifted apart naturally and amicably and (slight PL) I have been trying to relive that friendship with other people. It made me realize how self-serving and annoying most people are in real life and how the very few people are genuinely good natured. I just stop talking to people outside of my family, with exceptions to a couple people I really find I like talking to on a regular basis at church and at work. They are genuinely nice people and I enjoy my conversations with them, even if they are on a weekly basis and rather short. They are something to look forward to unlike most conversations, which are a chore. I've just learned to live for God, my family and myself. With very few exceptions, everyone one else and fuck off unless they are paying me to care. Really, it's not the quantity of relationships you have but the quality of them that matters, yet most people are willing to sacrifice the latter for the former.

With Internet friends, I always realized that was a bit ephemeral though since you are seeing an avatar rather than an actual person. But it's still nice knowing there are people that see the same problems you do with society, think similarly and can have an actual intellectual discussion with, something that's becoming extremely rarer in today's social media infested world.
Very much agreed. I'm glad I have legitimately one good friend. But he's an amazing friend and really been there through everything. That's luckier than most people. I used to have a shitty friend who sacrificed me for many nothing friends. That and he tried to flirt with pink-haired dykes a lot so I'm kind of happy we're not friends anymore.
My problem with most "online friends" is that yes, while they will generally see eye-to-eye with you, the moment you make the smallest quarrel over an opinion they drop you like a bad habit. I've noticed that the people I agreed with on most issues had no time for me when I didn't indulge their bullshit beliefs as much. So in effect, it's just a hugbox.
Good on you bro. Keep serving God and your family. I wish I could but I'm not a religious person and don't have a great family life. But I completely respect anyone who can have faith and support their family.
 
I used to think people would have more of a spine. The last 15 years have proven me wrong every time. Nowadays whenever I hear some Burger talk about things they’re going to do if <x> happens, they’re full of shit and I’m tired of hearing their LARP fantasies. They’re not gonna do shit and I respect them more if they just admit that or at least shut the fuck up. There’s few things more pathetic than thumping your chest about all the things you’re going to do someday if an arbitrary line gets crossed.
 
Used to consider myself a liberal, but that changed once I started seeing how batshit crazy the left had become.

Had a Thelema phase for a few years before I realized what a faggot I was being.

Grew up Christian (Baptist) but now consider myself agnostic. I want to believe something greater than ourselves is out there, but I can’t do that on blind faith alone.
 
Globalization. On paper, it elevates everyone's living standards, and allows countries that are better at certain things to specialize in them.

In practice, all it did was sell out the manufacturing base that built the first world to the lowest bidder, bringing down living standards for the vast majority for the benefit of an elite few, and making us vulnerable to bad actors like the Chinese Communist Party, who exploit our short-sighted profit-maximization goals to choke out foreign competition and empower themselves militarily to challenge us on the world stage. It well and truly has failed, and I sincerely hope this latest wave of anti-China sentiment and the COVID supply chain crisis will put us on track to bringing manufacturing back once and for all.

Much like communism, globalization only works as long as everyone plays by the rules. The instant one clever asshole cheats, everyone else loses.
 
Used to be an edgy atheist, became a Christian. Many such cases. Sadly many go to the other extreme and become CHRIST IS KANGers and ask in Twitter for the groyper army to pray for them to beat their masturbation addiction. Used to be leftist too, became a...well, I don't know, now I like to think I stand for sanity, basically if you're against troon shit and similar degeneracy you're good in my books. Many extreme right-wingers have nice sounding ideas, but the average joe will never be 100% redpilled NatSoc/Fascist. All the world governments have been proven to be corrupt, yet no one's overthrowing them. Panama Papers pretty much blackpilled me about politics, there will never be "revolution through education". The average joe will submit to the will of the ruling class, no matter if its the Chinese Communist Party or Sweden Democrats. I guess there's residual revolutionary leftist in me still, I would like to see a grassroot revolution by the "silent majority", but at the same time I acknowledge it's extremely unlikely in first world country. Now I vote for my local right-wing populist, like the sheeple I always hated. And that's the extent of my political involvement. Sometimes I make edgy posts about black people in the Farms.
 
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