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was thinking of getting T500 T480 so i can learn and install libreboot, but i might get another model thats fully compatible with libreboot if its cheaper.
man, all i want is just ONE device without backdoors on it :(
 
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Hecate said:
was thinking of getting T500 T480 so i can learn and install libreboot, but i might get another model thats fully compatible with libreboot if its cheaper.
man, all i want is just ONE device without backdoors on it :(
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1. You're not going to use it. T480 already struggles with web browsing, and if you go older then it's gonna be even worse.
2. If you were actually schizo you'd be compiling libreboot by yourself and verifying it has no binary blobs to make abundantly sure it's safe. IIRC Libreboot for the newer machines like the T480 utilizes binary blobs, so you're still using a mystery black box that might as well be a backdoor. Same with all the software running on it. Have you verified and manually compiled every line of code of your Linux distro, or are you just blindly trusting that it doesn't spy on you?
3. Once you realize that the moment you step out of your house you're already in the near vicinity of countless smartphones, CCTV cameras and satellite imagery then your only escape from being spied on is killing yourself.

Oh yeah, and even if you go through all of that you're still going to be relentlessly spied on while browsing the web. Libreboot is a meme. So is being overly schizo about backdoors and spyware to the point of being compelled to use Libreboot. It sure sounds liberating to force yourself to use antiquated hardware for some faint sense of privacy that's hardly even there.
 
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Slav Power said:
T480 already struggles with web browsing
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This isn't true at all. I've got a T480s which handles modern browsers on modern OSes perfectly fine, no goofball ricing needed, and my daily driver is substantially older.

That said, Libreboot is indeed a joke when you consider what you give up for what you receive. The T480 one in particular is missing like half the features:
 
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I need something portable that can handle video editing and Blender. Would a used ThinkPad be a better choice than a regular laptop?
 
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Would a used ThinkPad be a better choice than a regular laptop?
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Yes, because for the equal price of a regular laptop you get a machine that has infinitely better build quality and performance. Look for used P series ThinkPads and look at what brand new consumer laptops you can get for the same price. It'll all be cheap, brittle plastic with underpowered hardware.
 
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1. You're not going to use it. T480 already struggles with web browsing, and if you go older then it's gonna be even worse.
2. If you were actually schizo you'd be compiling libreboot by yourself and verifying it has no binary blobs to make abundantly sure it's safe. IIRC Libreboot for the newer machines like the T480 utilizes binary blobs, so you're still using a mystery black box that might as well be a backdoor. Same with all the software running on it. Have you verified and manually compiled every line of code of your Linux distro, or are you just blindly trusting that it doesn't spy on you?
3. Once you realize that the moment you step out of your house you're already in the near vicinity of countless smartphones, CCTV cameras and satellite imagery then your only escape from being spied on is killing yourself.

Oh yeah, and even if you go through all of that you're still going to be relentlessly spied on while browsing the web. Libreboot is a meme. So is being overly schizo about backdoors and spyware to the point of being compelled to use Libreboot. It sure sounds liberating to force yourself to use antiquated hardware for some faint sense of privacy that's hardly even there.
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i mistyped and meant to say T430. received it today (came preinstalled with win10) and it seems to run just fine. my desktop will always be my main driver, so the T430 will be what i use on the road and at work. literally cannot be beat at its price point ($50) and it even came with a new li-ion 9 cell. may or may not upgrade it down the road.

as far as libreboot goes, i have no misconceptions on how little privacy we all actually have. i have no intentions to make this laptop some autistic "privacy box", but it is nice that it doesnt have binary blobs like the T480 does. i literally just want to play around with libreboot and install arch on it
 
Those Ultrabook CPU's are fine for web browsing as long as they're not stuck at their base clock frequency. Do you use Throttlestop?
 
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Dear Lenovo, fuck you for randomly changing the eDP pin pitch size from 0.5 to 0.4, I just love having to buy another screen instead of just carrying over my existing deep color UHD from the T480.
 
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I got a thinkpad L15 and am going to upgrade the RAM, does all 260-pin RAM work? I've been building PCs for over 10 years but never worked on a laptop :story:
 
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I got a thinkpad L15 and am going to upgrade the RAM, does all 260-pin RAM work? I've been building PCs for over 10 years but never worked on a laptop :story:
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SODIMM is SODIMM. You don't worry about how many pins your PC DIMM modules have, you only worry if it's DDR1/2/3/4/5, what size, clock speed and timing it has, right? Pretty much the same deal with laptops, it's just a custom mini-PC motherboard.
 
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